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Longrider

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At slow speed, less than 15/20 MPH, when I go over a sharp bump there is a loud klunking noise in the front end. If I lightly apply the front brake the sound goes away. One brake rotor is twice as loose as the other. When I wiggle the brake rotor it makes the same type of sound as the klunking noise. Both rotors are loose and can be wiggled by hand about 1/8 inch or less.

Dealer says this is result of floating brake disks. I do not recall this sound when the bike was new and it seems to be getting louder.

Bike is a 2004 with 39,000 miles.

Question, Is this normal or?

Thanks,

Longrider

 
I am anything but a mechanic, but I wouldnt ride the bike like that! My disc's are snug. True they are mounted onto a sproket (??) but they are fimly attached. If they are loose and you grab a handful, I can only imagine bad things happening :(

 
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The way floating disks are made I don't believe they're going to fall off unless there are a bunch of the retainers missing? This noise could very much a disk problem but it depends on how much slop there is on either disk that it could actually not run true as the wheel runs true. The disk may actually be running so out of true that when you activate the front brake this snatches the disk and brings it back into a true running position, this may be causing the CLUNK you hear?

I would definately check to see if there are any of the retainers missing, if there are, how many? If there are a few of these retainers missing, I would replace the rotor assy. I would also pull the brake callipers apart and clean them just for general housekeeping. This will allow you to remove each part and check it out as you clean it, it will also allow you to examine each bolt to see if anything is missing or loose. With front end nioses one can never be exactly sure what it is until you find the actual problem. You say when you hit the front brake this noise stops, I firmly believe this is an excellent place to start checking.

To give you an example; I had a very bad metal to metal sound coming from the front of a rotor when the brakes were applied. I took everything apart to see what I was going to need to replace, I knew this was going to be expensive with this type of noise in the front end. I eventually found a stone had gotten wedged between the brake pad, the rotor, and the caliper. I could not begin to tell anyone how this large stone got into such a small place, but it did. After removing the stone and putting everything back together, I found I needed no parts, and the problem was fixed. When working on something like this, keep your eyes open and your senses about you, most of the time you'll end up finding the problem.

Just remember, even a blind chicken gets a worm every once in a while! I've found my share of them.

Good Luck,

clutchless1

 
At slow speed, less than 15/20 MPH, when I go over a sharp bump there is a loud klunking noise in the front end. If I lightly apply the front brake the sound goes away. One brake rotor is twice as loose as the other. When I wiggle the brake rotor it makes the same type of sound as the klunking noise. Both rotors are loose and can be wiggled by hand about 1/8 inch or less.Dealer says this is result of floating brake disks. I do not recall this sound when the bike was new and it seems to be getting louder.

Bike is a 2004 with 39,000 miles.

Question, Is this normal or?

Thanks,

Longrider
check the torque of the stearing head bearings.....Thats be the first place i'd check

 
Apply front brake and bounce the front up and down as hard as you can.

You will get a better idea of exactly where the clunk is.

My bet it will be the floating front discs, a normal noise.

 
Loose rotors huh? Can you take a little video and show us? Stock rotors, right? Is the movement between the carrier and the rotor?

Check this thread for my saga with ABM rotors

And download (right click, Save Target As...) this video to see my ABM's wiggle.

 
Movement is between the carrier and the rotor. Downloaded your video-a feat at dial up speed of 24.4, many thanks for posting this.

My "good" rotor moves less than your good one. My other rotor moves a little less than your bad one. Most of the rivets will turn by hand, but with difficulty.

Thanks,

Longrider

 
To followup on this. I had another dealer check the brake disks, His service manager said the movement in the disks was not right and needed to be corrected under warranty.

Today, they replaced both front brake disks.

Result, noise is completely gone.

See dealer write up in that section.

Longrider

 
To followup on this. I had another dealer check the brake disks, His service manager said the movement in the disks was not right and needed to be corrected under warranty.
Today, they replaced both front brake disks.

Result, noise is completely gone.

See dealer write up in that section.

Longrider
GREAT! I'm glad they took good care of you. That's how it's supposed to work.

Happy riding.

:yahoo:

 
To followup on this. I had another dealer check the brake disks, His service manager said the movement in the disks was not right and needed to be corrected under warranty.
Today, they replaced both front brake disks.

Result, noise is completely gone.

See dealer write up in that section.

Longrider
Glad it was fixed properly !! :yahoo:

You should also post up the name of the first dealer who did not know right from wrong also !!

 
To followup on this. I had another dealer check the brake disks, His service manager said the movement in the disks was not right and needed to be corrected under warranty.
Today, they replaced both front brake disks.

Result, noise is completely gone.

See dealer write up in that section.

Longrider
Geese, just saw this for the first time. Glad you got it taken care of.

If I would have seen it the first time I would have told you that HELL NO, those rotors aren't supposed to be loose at all, even if they are semi-floating be design. And from your initial description, it sure as hell wasn't the steering head bearings.

The first dealer you took it to for advice was a moron and asshat to boot, and because of his ignorance and/or lack of true concern, could have caused you a serious safety issue.

 
Gunny on da Skoot. Floating don't mean "sloppy as shit", just means they move ever so slightly as temps come up, not discernible to the human hand.

 
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