Fuel fill up question ...

[FJRBandit]

From the large amount of activity this thread has seen in just it's first 24 hours of existence, I would say that it does not fit the NEPRT criteria. It is possible this thread could ultimately be never ending and some have even noted that it is a recurring topic (although I've never seen it before). However, by the amount of responses which, mostly by my count, have been directly addressed to the OP's question, I would think that this thread should not be considered pointless.

As such, I would ask the mods if there is a method by which a thread can be deemed non-NEPRT and paroled back to the general population of threads? I note that I merely said "paroled", as it certainly has the potential to lose interest and thus meet the criteria of NEPRT, deeming it quickly in violation of parole and doomed to the dreaded dregs of NEPRT for eternity.

 

[Ignacio]

It is possible this thread could ultimately be never ending and some have even noted that it is a recurring topic (although I've never seen it before). However, by the amount of responses which, mostly by my count, have been directly addressed to the OP's question, I would think that this thread should not be considered pointless.

As pointed out MANY times before NEPRT is not a Boolean AND situation. It's a Boolean OR. If it's never-ending OR pointless OR recurring it can end up here. While I would personally debate whether it's pointless or not....it still satisfies at least one of the other conditions.

From the large amount of activity this thread has seen in just it's first 24 hours of existence, I would say that it does not fit the NEPRT criteria

Popularity of a thread is not a determining factor of NEPRT.

The point remains that forum dwellers in this place are encouraged and rewarded when they dive deeper into the decade plus of accumulated experience. It's part of why this forum is deeper and different than other places.

.....and if a thread still ends up in NEPRT...it's still just as readable as everything else...and sometimes even more popular.

 

[ionbeam]

From the large amount of activity this thread has seen in just it's first 24 hours of existence, I would say that it does not fit the NEPRT criteria...

Given the signal to noise ratio of this thread it doesn't appear to be taken all that seriously. Given the frequency that it has been discussed in the past (and available with a search, acknowledging that GAS is three letter word so some cleverness would be necessary using the Forum's search engine) it has the hallmarks of NEPRT.

Parole probably isn't happening, but recently the admins have gone thread splitting crazy (with the splits seriously lacking any references to the previous history causing some splits to be useless), so a thread split could possibly save a NEPRT topic should it suddenly take a main-stream, useful, turn.

 

[playinatwork]

I'm new to the FJR but I'm having a hard time believing you guys haven't yanked that aluminum shot glass with holes out of your tanks. Dang thing causes more backsplash than a Mexican restaurant.

 

[hppants]

For whatever reason, I do find the forum's search better over the past year or so then before......

What I would like to know from Gen III owners is: Have you run out of gas...

Why don't you use those search skills to find that this subject has been covered even MORE than the OP and even been specifically covered in Best of NEPRT and this sagest of advice? Or do you really believe it would make a significant difference with a Gen 3 vs. another Gen?

Uh.... respectfully

1. In the phrase "run out of gas", there does not exist a word that has more than 3 letters.....

2. I didn't check the Best of NEPRT thread admittedly, but upon review, it does not appear to reference a thread that specifically confirms that a GEN III owner has been able to burn all 6.6 gallons of fuel out of the tank before running out. There's a ton of dribble regarding how many miles people have gotten on a tank of gas, which of course is apples and oranges.

3. I don't suspect it will be different for the Gen III v/s the Gen I, but I would rather not find out the hard way, thus my inquiry.

Knowing (or confirming) this information is very important to me. When I'm traveling, I can use the GPS to help me find a station closer to my ACTUAL empty, if I know where that is. For me, that is important.

 

[mcatrophy]

... acknowledging that GAS is three letter word so some cleverness would be necessary using the Forum's search engine ...

That's why we put petrol in our vehicles .

 

[Ignacio]

3. I don't suspect it will be different for the Gen III v/s the Gen I, but I would rather not find out the hard way, thus my inquiry.

OK, just asking....

<sarcasm>Then again, you might want to then follow-up and ask if it will be different for a particular year vs. just a generation. After all, you never know.

</sarcasm>

1. In the phrase "run out of gas", there does not exist a word that has more than 3 letters.....

Good point! Some ideas to hone your Search-Fu. Did you consider searching on "out of fuel" instead with the quotes? You yield more results. I see three or four possibly pertinent threads in the first page or two alone.

And then those results might yield other terms to search on. Admittedly, it's an art. But, it's an art we all should be more proficient in.

 

[Pterodactyl]

It is possible this thread could ultimately be never ending and some have even noted that it is a recurring topic (although I've never seen it before). However, by the amount of responses which, mostly by my count, have been directly addressed to the OP's question, I would think that this thread should not be considered pointless.

As pointed out MANY times before NEPRT is not a Boolean AND situation. It's a Boolean OR. If it's never-ending OR pointless OR recurring it can end up here. While I would personally debate whether it's pointless or not....it still satisfies at least one of the other conditions.

From the large amount of activity this thread has seen in just it's first 24 hours of existence, I would say that it does not fit the NEPRT criteria

Popularity of a thread is not a determining factor of NEPRT.

The point remains that forum dwellers in this place are encouraged and rewarded when they dive deeper into the decade plus of accumulated experience. It's part of why this forum is deeper and different than other places.

.....and if a thread still ends up in NEPRT...it's still just as readable as everything else...and sometimes even more popular.

Since the dispatch of a thread to NEPRT is not viewed as a punishment or chastisement in anyway, I suggest that we replace banishment to NEPRT with a more fundamental form of corrective action.... public humiliation. Upon registering as a user the member will be required to submit a photograph showing a full frontal view of the new member in the nude. If said member is deemed guilty of a violation of forum rules, then the picture will be posted on the forum. God Bless the poor soles who will be saddled with the job of sorting thru the pictures. I also suggest that we implement a recruiting bonus to any member who recruits new female members that are 21-35 years of age (it takes a village).

Members who joined prior to 1 September 2013 are exempt from the picture requirement, and will be punished with a stern look and a "Tsk, Tsk".​

 

[SwollenRaccoon]

It is possible this thread could ultimately be never ending and some have even noted that it is a recurring topic (although I've never seen it before). However, by the amount of responses which, mostly by my count, have been directly addressed to the OP's question, I would think that this thread should not be considered pointless.

As pointed out MANY times before NEPRT is not a Boolean AND situation. It's a Boolean OR. If it's never-ending OR pointless OR recurring it can end up here. While I would personally debate whether it's pointless or not....it still satisfies at least one of the other conditions.

From the large amount of activity this thread has seen in just it's first 24 hours of existence, I would say that it does not fit the NEPRT criteria

Popularity of a thread is not a determining factor of NEPRT.

The point remains that forum dwellers in this place are encouraged and rewarded when they dive deeper into the decade plus of accumulated experience. It's part of why this forum is deeper and different than other places.

.....and if a thread still ends up in NEPRT...it's still just as readable as everything else...and sometimes even more popular.

Since the dispatch of a thread to NEPRT is not viewed as a punishment or chastisement in anyway, I suggest that we replace banishment to NEPRT with a more fundamental form of corrective action.... public humiliation. Upon registering as a user the member will be required to submit a photograph showing a full frontal view of the new member in the nude. If said member is deemed guilty of a violation of forum rules, then the picture will be posted on the forum. God Bless the poor soles who will be saddled with the job of sorting thru the pictures. I also suggest that we implement a recruiting bonus to any member who recruits new female members that are 21-35 years of age (it takes a village).

Members who joined prior to 1 September 2013 are exempt from the picture requirement, and will be punished with a stern look and a "Tsk, Tsk".​

I think that's terrible, too! How dare they give that awful task to a delicious, flat, bottom-dwelling fish! It starts with sole, and you know as well as I do, it won't stop there. It will progress from sole, to halibut, and then maybe even to un-flat fish, like groupers or catfish. Where will it end?!?!?!?!

Sorry, it's not even Friday (but almost). I could not resist. Please forgive me. But then, I have no soul.

 

[Fred W]

What the hake? What's all this sole talk?

I'm new to the FJR but I'm having a hard time believing you guys haven't yanked that aluminum shot glass with holes out of your tanks. Dang thing causes more backsplash than a Mexican restaurant.

[semi serious for 1 second]

That depends somewhat on the shape of your nozzle. In those states that mandate the super fancy PITA vapor recovery nozzles like the ones below it is kind of hard to get the tip of the filler down inside the "shot glass" so it does get messy. I'm talking these contraptions:

(gotta get one of them "stream shaper" things)

Those of us who live and ride in the ne'er do well, carefree states like (Live Free and Die) New Hampshire, we still have the old school hose tips like these:

The bare tip can easily be inserted past the hole in the shot glass for the majority of the fill, so it's a lot less messy filling the FJR tank with these latter (earlier) style nozzles, and they cost the station owner a lot less to boot.

[/semi serious for 1 second]

To the OP's question

1) I fill it all the different ways at different times, sometimes astride, sometimes on the side stand, sometimes astride while also on the side stand (when I'm really lazy) and sometimes, but not very often, on the center stand, each depending on my mood

2) Because I'm moody, that's why.

3) It doesn't seem to matter one bit which method you use as to how much fuel you can squeeze in there.

Try this quick and easy experiment:

Put bike on side stand and dismount.

Fill bike and squeeze in as much as you can.

Now get on bike and stand it up vertical.

How much more gas can you get in?

I can't get any.

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So here is another question worthy of this thread... which side of the pump do you usually pull up to?

I always try to pull up so the pump is on my left side. Why? So the fill opening is tilted towards the pump when the bike is on the sidestand, of course! Besides, I always dismount to the left (if I'm going to dismount at all).

 

[Redfish Hunter]

Try this quick and easy experiment:
Put bike on side stand and dismount.

Fill bike and squeeze in as much as you can.

Now get on bike and stand it up vertical.

How much more gas can you get in?

I can't get any.

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I said the same thing back in post #2. It just does not make any difference.

Same exact thing with my old ST1300 as well. A thread on the forum, same basic question, I had to know. No difference.

On another note:

What I do not understand is the big deal and emotion about getting this thread removed from NEPRT. What would be the benefit? First thing, Hud wanted it in NEPRT, he started it here himself (which used to be impossible and is now impossible again) because he has a somewhat warped sense of humor. He EXPECTED sarcasm and foolishness, he knows us well. He fits in nicely here.

If it were in another part of the forum much of our freedom to play and be foolish would be curtailed. It is worth noting that even our Admin guys had some fun with it, that is rare and good to see.

 

[Uncle Hud]

Redfish Hunter posted: What I do not understand is the big deal and emotion about getting this thread removed from NEPRT. What would be the benefit? First thing, Hud wanted it in NEPRT, he started it here himself (which used to be impossible and is now impossible again) because he has a somewhat warped sense of humor. He EXPECTED sarcasm and foolishness, he knows us well. He fits in nicely here.

First, thanks for the compliment. (Seriously.) While I expected a fair amount of high jinks, I was -- and still am -- genuinely curious about how people perform this function.

For years, I had only seen people "do it" the way I did: sidestand. Somebody on a recent FJRForum ride "did it" on the center stand. A little strange, but not very. The I saw a Harley guy "do it" sitting on the bike, and I started realizing there must be a bunch of ways to "do it". None of the various methods will get a significant extra volume of fuel in the tank, so it must be habit, or how they were taught, or how they "do it" on Sons of Anarchy, or some other influence.

In a few days, I'll parse out the serious replies and see if there's a geographic or Gen1/2/3 pattern to the fueling preferences. (Gen1/2/3 ownership may indicate how readily the owner embraces change.)

 

[Fred W]

You should have made this a poll to get some "real dater".

 

[Uncle Hud]

too ignernt

 

[SkooterG]

Observed fill technique by an AZ rider: Fill until the pump clicks. Shake the motorcycle to redistribute the fuel, dribble more drops in. Shake. Dribble. Shake. Dribble, until the fuel level hits the over flow opening. Even though it takes 10 minutes to fill like this, it allows the rider to ride 4 minutes longer with the extra fuel packed in

Yeah, yeah, yeah......... Whatever! So I still have some OCD qualities. I am *much* better than I used to be.

And just five days ago after riding on fumes, my expert technique allowed me to fill the FJR's tank with 6.80 gallons! So there!

 

[DiggerDr.]

I stop, side stand down, dig the wallet out, fill with nozzle just far enough inside that it won't slip out, (holding it the whole time), pump stops and I button it up and ride. If I run out would another 1/10 of a gallon get me to the next station? Probably not.

 

[Redfish Hunter]

If we are going to be completely serious here (I was serious most of the time, really) I will sometimes park with the pump to the right of the bike depending on what sort of cluster mess is at the gas pumps. People do the strangest darn things around gas pumps. I can fill it from either side.

I never bother going to the extra effort of putting it on the centerstand because I see no useable difference in the amount of fuel I can put in the tank. I really did fill it on the side stand then pop it onto the centerstand to see. It was still full up to the Stop Here or I Will Spray Gasoline in Your Face metal insert.

And, you are welcome Hud. Your little thread generated a lot of interest and is now up to 56! posts. Ah, the joys of NEPRT.

 

[MrZappo]

Observed fill technique by an AZ rider: Fill until the pump clicks. Shake the motorcycle to redistribute the fuel, dribble more drops in. Shake. Dribble. Shake. Dribble, until the fuel level hits the over flow opening. Even though it takes 10 minutes to fill like this, it allows the rider to ride 4 minutes longer with the extra fuel packed in

Yeah, yeah, yeah......... Whatever! So I still have some OCD qualities. I am *much* better than I used to be.

And just five days ago after riding on fumes, my expert technique allowed me to fill the FJR's tank with 6.80 gallons! So there!

If ya keep pumping, it will start to dribble out of the overflow vent tube ... If you are not thinking about this I would guess that you could put 10 gallons in ... Might be a puddle of imminent death all around you though ...

Likely will not increase range ...

 

[Pterodactyl]

The majority of the time when I refuel I am riding with Spousal Unit. All her bikes have the fuel tank under the seat with the cap on the right side. We have a well established routine. Pull up on the left of the pumps. Place bikes on the side stands, dismount, I run the card and hand the hose to her, she fills and hands the hose to me where I stand on the left side of the bike. I do not try to pack in the fuel (it is not wort the effort unless we are on the road to or from AK for instance), I hand the hose to the Unit, she hangs it up and gets the receipt. The two bikes she rides the most require 91 Octane, so I end up using it both in FJR and S10.

 

[ionbeam]

...hand the hose to her, she fills...I hand the hose to the Unit, she hangs it up...

Good to see you let her handle your hose