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This isn't going to win me any popularity points, but every time I hear of someone putting a car tire on a motorcycle I just scratch my head because I just don't get it. :huh: Is saving money that important? I spend far more time on the edges of my tires than the center tread so I guess this is why I don't understand the logic. So what if you don't get 40,000 miles out of the tire? I'd rather know for certain that I'll be planted in the corner as I'm fully leaned over at speed.
To each their own I guess. Maybe it works for you and your riding style. :crazy:
You ought to go ride with FJRonamission sometime and then come back and post.
Maybe FJRonaMission is really Kenny Roberts jr. jr.? and could ride a 14 hp lawn tractor faster than you? :unsure:

 
I know that FJRonaMission is faster than me. But so is DCarver. And I can hold my own.

But the biggest reason is every time I'm gonna go on a trip, I'm putting on new tires, at the most inconvenient time. Like right now, before going to Vancouver Isle. If either of my cars required this much service, I would probably trade them.

 
This isn't going to win me any popularity points, but every time I hear of someone putting a car tire on a motorcycle I just scratch my head because I just don't get it. :huh: Is saving money that important? I spend far more time on the edges of my tires than the center tread so I guess this is why I don't understand the logic. So what if you don't get 40,000 miles out of the tire? I'd rather know for certain that I'll be planted in the corner as I'm fully leaned over at speed.
To each their own I guess. Maybe it works for you and your riding style. :crazy:
You ought to go ride with FJRonamission sometime and then come back and post.
Maybe FJRonaMission is really Kenny Roberts jr. jr.? and could ride a 14 hp lawn tractor faster than you? :unsure:
Everybody is faster than me.

 
I think I figured the whole motivation thing out a while back: There are some IBA type riders that burn up massive amounts of pavement on a regular basis. 1k in 24 Hrs, 1.5'ks, 10k miles in 10 days... you get the picture. Changing tires in the middle of such a ride is a huge inconvenience.

And then there are the CBA riders, like me, who even on a week long vacation ride are lucky to rider much over 2k-3k miles.

A CT makes sense to the former, but not so much to the latter. Selecting longer wearing models, I manage to only go through a set of moto tires in a year. The cost and hassle of doing the changes is not that big of a deal to us. If I had to change my tires 5-6 times a year it would be a different story.

I suspect there are way more of us in the CBA category than the IBA.

 
Good point's Fred.

I tend to be heavy handed on the right grip and though the roads aren't on par with those in the south east or west coast, I do wear the sides some. That being said the center is laid to waste far before the sides. My first rear azo only got me 3k miles :blink: Yeah, I like smoke :lol:

A new rear once a year isn't a big deal but I figure why do it so often if an alternative is avaliable?

The CT hasn't altered my riding style enough to notice at this point, just over 1k on it now and unless something changes drasticly down the road, I'm most likely going to stay with this setup. :)

Personally I think it's more to do with the type of rider you are and roads you ride.

:jester:

 
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......Its not an EXalto....... makes a big difference
I headed out after dinner for the nearest set of twisties and put on about 120 km.

First part 2 lane highway: Tracks straight nicely, slightly smoother ride (prolly the 28psi vs the 40psi I normally run in the PR2). Follows cracks in the pavement like it was on rails. Constantly found myself correcting lane position because of it. Verdict: Meh.

Next part twist...er.. sweepy 2 lane: Always wants to run wide. Have to keep pressure on the bars. Tracks with the camber of the road noticably. Transitions from left lean to right lean sucks BALLS. Hit a spot of gravel about 200' long. New PR2 up front tracks straight. Back end is floating on the gravel. Damn near shit myself. Verdict: It killed a normally good handling bike.

Next part fresh pavement 4 lane slab: Fred Flintstones car would ride good here. Verdict: Whatever.

Verdict is still out. I will definitely be going back to the PR2's after the trip. I expected different and I got it. I have a week to decide if I'll leave it on. Buddy who put it on for me has no problem if I want to put the BSpec on before I leave. Considering the fresh PR2's will be worn out by the time I get back it does make some sense to just kill the front one and replace that in spring.

Other than longevity/cost I don't see any upside to running a car tire. The PR2's I took off still have a couple thousand km left in them at 25000km (15500 miles). I'm cheap, but at this point, I'm not that cheap. We'll see in a week.
Watching the week unfold. Good on you for trying an extended time period.

FjrMissonDoode - are you im*plying* that if not the Exalto sp? then no good?
..

Big Difference in the pushing it in to a lean and how it handles all around guys.... I rode Brodie's and it was something like Bungee's post..

The Exalto IS way different in its feel with out a doubt!!... If Bungee was here right now I would let him try my bike....

I enter a turn and my bike falls into a turn... never floats to the outside unless I UN- lean it..........................

B....

 
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Other than longevity/cost I don't see any upside to running a car tire. The PR2's I took off still have a couple thousand km left in them at 25000km (15500 miles). I'm cheap, but at this point, I'm not that cheap. We'll see in a week.
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that "longevity/cost" was the whole reason for this in the first place. I don't remember hearing that there were any other upsides to running a CT. What were you looking for?

 
I agree with fjronamission. The Exalto CT is outstanding!!! my observations thus far....

1. It never "tracks" grooves

2. It only squirms a bit in deep ruts (from transports)

3. It is SOLID in corners

4. Unbeatable in the rain!!!

5. VERY smooth ride

6. It took less than 15 minutes to get used to it

Overall....Fantastic tire!!! I estimate it to last the remaining life of the bike (100K now)

 
Well now I've gone and done it...

Cooper Zeon 2XS 205/50-17

First ride was 20 miles home. Uhm... it's different, different for sure.

......Its not an EXalto....... makes a big difference

B
FUZZY BALLS!

The potenza is also another goodun. I never even considered the brand/type issue.

Reviewed several and settled with the Potenza as two others here were happy with it :good:

:jester:

 
Well, put the first 30 miles on the Exalto A/S. Nothing fell off, anywhere. Different, yes, but manageable. Does take you a little getting used to on initial turn in. But I think this is gonna work.

Many kudos to George (Escaptfjrtist) Drove over there this a/m and used his harbor freight changer. Easy. Even with him muttering over and over again "This just isn't right" :yahoo: :yahoo:

 
Many kudos to George (Escapefjrtist) Drove over there this a/m and used his harbor freight changer. Easy. Even with him muttering over and over again "This just isn't right" :yahoo: :yahoo:
I am not going to comment because I was not there!
I've got the evidence...too late!

I'm hoping George will post a picture. I'm kinda puter stoopid.
I was doing my best to stay out of this thread... it just ain't right! My HF changer is now permanently damaged :blink:

Proud papa with his new rim protector.

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A couple more hands and we'll have it!

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...jus cuz it's on the rim doesn't make it right!

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Hope it works for you junior, glad to be of service.

--G

 
OK you got me!!! I've read every word of all 75 pages and after evaluating all the pros and cons I have decided to go to the darkside, however, my riding comes in two flavors there are days that I want to go SPORTS/[SIZE=8pt]touring[/SIZE] and other days I prefer [SIZE=8pt]sports[/SIZE]/TOURING. In the first case several friends on sports bikes and I will go tear up the Cascade twisties from Washington through Oregon, in the later case several friends on cruzers and I will slab it to Anacortes, WA and ferry hop the islands and then return to southeast Washington.

Soooo…….I aquired a second rear wheel on eBay and will mount the Potenza 019 Grid on that and maintain my Michelin intact and mounted. It takes about 10 minutes to pull the axle and switch wheels. I have new bearings, spacer and brake rotor coming to asure the unit is complete for balancing.

Thanks to all for an impresive education and especially to Eric the undisputed Dean of Darkside

See pic’s below, Poorbob

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Just guessing, but I think you may discard the rim with the MCT after a while. I'm in the middle of my second left coast ride with an SE ride in between-18,000 on the first tire (Yokohama to the wear bars) and 4,000 on the Michelin so far (1.5/32 out of 10 gone). Rode many tight twisties and I was the limiting factor rather than the CT. Ian Iowa

 
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I'm kinda stoopid.
Bust! That you???
ANOTHER FJR REAR CAR TIRE BENEFIT! What is causing me to really consider a Car Tire on my FJR is how the long life mileages will eliminate finding a replacement rear tire while I am traveling down deep into Mexico. In November of 2011 I am riding with Los Hermanos Rodriquez to Guatemala; you folks know them as Patch308 and HotRodZilla here on our FJR Forum. With my big fat old Irish ass on my 2003 FJR "Miss Lucy Liu", a rear Michelin Pilot Road 2 would not make it to Guatemala City and back. My game plan was to ship a new rear tire to mi Amigo Ruben Tenorio, President of the Mexico BMW Moto Clubs. Ruben resides in Oaxaca Ciudad in Oaxaca Estado. I then would have to go to una La Llanterria in Mexico to get it mounted and perhaps balanced. Running a car tire on the rear of an FJR completely removes the necessity of a rear tire change en route. Poor road conditions South of the Border really eat up motorcycle tires muy rapido!!!

 
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I'm kinda stoopid.
Bust! That you???
ANOTHER FJR REAR CAR TIRE BENEFIT! What is causing me to really consider a Car Tire on my FJR is how the long life mileages will eliminate finding a replacement rear tire while I am traveling down deep into Mexico. In November of 2011 I am riding with Los Hermanos Rodriquez to Guatemala; you folks know them as Patch308 and HotRodZilla here on our FJR Forum. With my big fat old Irish ass on my 2003 FJR "Miss Lucy Liu", a rear Michelin Pilot Road 2 would not make it to Guatemala City and back. My game plan was to ship a new rear tire to mi Amigo Ruben Tenorio, President of the Mexico BMW Moto Clubs. Ruben resides in Oaxaca Ciudad in Oaxaca Estado. I then would have to go to una La Llanterria in Mexico to get it mounted and perhaps balanced. Running a car tire on the rear of an FJR completely removes the necessity of a rear tire change en route. Poor road conditions South of the Border really eat up motorcycle tires muy rapido!!!
Actually, just thinking out loud, but given that you've got the logistics all set up already, I'd consider shipping the extra tire anyway. What if you or one of the other Amigos pick up a nail? Be nice to have that extra tire available.

 
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