Help - toolless in dallas

[chickey191]

facom ratchet

only $35.00

these things are the tits

 

[Ari Rankum]

Don't forget the most important tool of all.A service manuel.

I know what y'all are thinking. I should know a service Manuel, right? Well, eff off, mi amigos. I do NOT hang out at truck stops.

<Napoleon Dynamite>

Gosh!

</Napoleon Dynamite>

 

[Joe2Lmaker]

Snapon - pretty damned expensive - Facom - very damned expensive

Man, "very damned expensive" doesn't do justice to their price.

SK/Facom 850 piece tool set $8,675.00

https://www.mytoolstore.com/sk/sk03012.html

They are not for everyone. Some people can be perfectly happy with whatever chinese crap is sold at Menards or Wal-Mart.

I am working with the assumption that anyone who owns a Yamaha FJR and wants to take care of it themselves will appreciate quality.

Put a Snap-On ratchet in your hand. Once. Use it one time after using shitty tools. Either you understand, or you won't.

This might help: I have two screw drivers that I found twenty years ago in boneyard cars. One was an S-K slotted , the other was a MAC phillips. They were both extremely used when I found them. To this day, they are better than any Craftsman screw driver I have ever owned.

 

[panthercity]

My craftsman torque wrench - their their top of the line 25-250 ft-lb model has failed on me FOR THE SECOND TIME. Would really love a Snap-On, but damn dat sheeut is pricey.

No where near as pricey as a crankshaft or a cylinder head. Nor, a vist to the local ER...
These aren't just tools, folks. If you aren't willing to bet your life, or your customer's life, on `em, don't pick `em up at all.

 

[Rogue]

Most of mine are Snap-On, If you use them every day (I used to) they are worth it. If you are just going to change the oil on your FJR every couple of months then go with proto or sears pro or another good brand.

 

[user 213]

You folks are creating another tool whore!

Not that it's a bad thing......

A lot of the torque wrenches sold now have plastic gears inside them. Even the current Proto ones, much to my dissapointment. Snapon and Mac are still good and will last a lifetime if taken care of. Mine are Mac, fwiw.

Hand tools - Buy really good screwdrivers, allen tools and combo wrenches and you'll never look back. Sockets are less picky. Yes, there are differences, but to a large degree you're paying for finish quality and printing features on high end sockets after you go above the craftsman line.

Do buy a good vise. Do get a sturdy work bench to mount it to. No pressboard or fiberboard, you need something solid when you're using that big hammer on a part in the vise.

Sorry Chuck, but I disagree on the need for any 3/4" drive socket set stuff. If you're working on a KW, yes, but not the FJR or the average bike and car.

Start with the basics and you will add to it as you find the need. If you try and buy every damn thing you think you'll need, you will end up with a bunch of stuff you seldom or never use.

We all develop pet peeves on tools. Chuck likes his ratchets, I like my combo wrenches, it goes on. A lot depends on what you find yourself using. Do this long enough and you will have thousands of $$ tied up in tools. Make sure they are ones you use.

 

[odot]

OC....are you the brain child of the "other" forums? I wanna meet you, dude. Going to wfo?

 

[Joe2Lmaker]

You folks are creating another tool whore!

Good one. I liked your comments in that thread.

Do buy a good vise. Do get a sturdy work bench to mount it to. No pressboard or fiberboard, you need something solid when you're using that big hammer on a part in the vise.

A bench! That is so obvious, I can't believe I didn't think of it. One solid bench, and one moveable bench, top of the tool roller cabinet will do, but a large flat surface you can roll around the garage is a luxury second only to a snow cone machine or a fridge full of beer.

 

[skyway]

After looking through this thread, you haven't mentioned what maintenance you are planning on doing yourself?

You do not need to spend a small fortune on tools to perform basic maintenance. For the amount of wrenching you will end up doing, I would put together a list of basic maintenance you would like to attempt, starting with the easiest/least complicated and only tool up for that.

If, after the fact you feel good about the results, then purchase only what you need for your next job. Personally I would not go out and start buying Snap-on, their tools are good, but are catered toward career mechanics, not for the occasional small garage project. You will be throwing your money away.

 

[luvtoride]

And most importantly, a nekid woman calender for the garage

Hahaha!!! Good one Mr. Jim Lor!

My word of tool advice is don't contruct your toolkit w/ tools fr/ Big Lots unless you find some quality named brand stuff there. Their hex wrenches... similar to butter. I found out the hard way that decent tools are invaluable... & you don't need to spend your life savings to get them. Just do like me... borrow stuff from your favorite neighbor. For Christmas, guess what you get from your favorite neighbor?!?!? Surprise!!! TOOLS!

 

[Bounce]

What surprised me was, those giant red toolboxes on casters go for only around $800....man, those are too kewl

Once you're an unabashed tool whore, you'll eventually want to keep all your Prada in one sock. The cost of your sock is all up to how big a tool slut you've become.

I got the Sears type with ball bearing slides (not the "quiet glides") and only spent about $500 for a roll-away and top tool box (waiting for a sale and having $100 in-store credit helps). Appointing them out will cost you too. They come nekkid on the inside, you need to get tray liners, tool trayes, etc. You can also add side cabinets (even something to hang your jacket inside of it you want it). You can spend a LOT on just storage. If you insist on Snap-On you will spend a lot more than a lot and even the other tool whores will point and talk about you.

It's so hot out that I've not moved all my tools to the cabinet yet. I just "put them away" as I use them. The benefit is that all my stuff is now in one place instead of spread across 2 tool chests, a peg board, and a few drawers and shelves scattered around the garage. Made the R&R of tires on the Daytona 600 and the oil/filter change on the Daytona and FRJ much simpler.

Some of the things I've found in the past month (7/4 was a Sears sale).

https://tinyurl.com/p4hmh

https://tinyurl.com/qg73y

(All in red, 5 draw roll away and 5 drawer top chest.)

https://tinyurl.com/qted3 - 1 in sae, 1 in metric, 1 in 1/4" drive: (recommend you pass on the 1/4" drive as the shanks tend to be too thick to pass through the holes in most of the sockets until you get to the upper end of the sizes)

https://tinyurl.com/p28f3 (get an extra pack, you may trim 1 wrong )

https://tinyurl.com/pscmz (gets more wrenches in a drawer by standing them on end)

or perhaps, if you cut off the handle: https://tinyurl.com/jpl7d

Give these a pass as they eat up a tall drawer better used for larger tools:

https://tinyurl.com/zpqwg https://tinyurl.com/ncaj9

and pass these up as they are reported to be a hassle to feed the tools in/out of when you need to use them. https://tinyurl.com/h837z

While this is what I had in mind: https://tinyurl.com/gj729

The whole "cut a stencil" route is a hassle. When working in a machine shop, we used to take 1" thick closed cell plastic (not really a foam) and cut it to fit as a tray mat. We'd then heat the tools in an oven to about 100 - 200°, spray Pam on the plastic, and lay the tools on the foam. The heated tool would sink down into the plastic and make a perfect mold of the tool for keeping them in their proper place. Finding the proper plastic and borrowing my wife's oven is a thing that may take a while.

https://tinyurl.com/q3erf (I thought this was goofy but took the advise of someone I trust. Turned out to be a great idea. When the box is new, it helps you find where you put stuff. When someone else is working out of your tool box it helps them put things back where they belong. As you use the box and change your mind about where things are best placed, you can quickly move the labels around.)

I can see eventually getting the mid-chest and/or a side chest.

 

[Bounce]

UPDATE,

I've order the Snap On hex key set GunMD suggested cause I recognized that was the exact same tools the kid in the service dept was using as I ask him. He said SNAPON!!! THE BEST!!! Always thought you had to be a professional wrench to buy those.....

I've always been of the mind set that I can't justify the added expense for MOST Snap On items, but there certainly are exceptions. Ironically, the very reason I purchased that set of hex keys is because I used that same set one day at Desert Cycle Works in 29 Palms, CA while removing the plastics...I knew after using those I could never go back to the stupid little 3 inch long "L" shaped ones that come in a pouch from Craftsman.

I've always liked the allen wrench-sockets mawoanseff.

Does Snap-on ever have sales? Or specials? Or any other kind of discounts?

Was at a shop where I barter labor when their Mac Tools guy showed up. I went shopping. Found a great set of shorty combo wrenches and asked how much (nothing was priced). He asked if I'd ever shopped in a tool truck before and, when I told him I hadn't, he showed me a chair and asked me to take a seat. $300 for a single set of metric shorty wrenches! HOLY FARQUAR!

I ain't a pro and don't make my living with tools. As such that stratospheric pricing is not justified. I did find a great set of combo wrenches with the ratchetin box end for $150 that I choked down my pride and bought. Some of the best tools in my collection. But for the garage tinkerer, such tools are a luxury that is not required; just desired. Desires are placated by those with deeper pockets than me.

My Daughter's Fiance was gushing about his plans for getting a Span-On kit for his garage, with talk about nearly the $5k plus range just for storage. When I told him what the Sears kit cost and he had a chance to work with it, he got an attitude adjustment. Some times these purchases are nothing more than Garage Bling. Choose wisely. Remember, those Snap-On guys have to pay for that OCC chopper, so tip 'em while you're at it!

As for the Facom ratchet... nice but It'd have me worried about whacking it with a hammer when I needed to break loose a pesky fastener.

 

[user 213]

OC....are you the brain child of the "other" forums? I wanna meet you, dude. Going to wfo?

I'm the same OCFJR from the other forums. Not sure what you mean by "brainchild" though. I just admin. the FJR1300 list at Micapeak which was created by HMarc Lewis along with the whole FJR1300.Info site.

And yes, I'll be at WFO the whole time. I'm actually arriving on Wed to help Lisa with set up, and to do some early check in work on Thursday. You might see me in the check in room when you arrive.

Don't be surprised if I forget your handle from the forum. I'm sure we will all be checking out name tags during the weekend.

 

[Bounce]

I don't know about discounts but if anyone knows a Snap On sales rep we might be able to hook something up. It's my understanding (subject to smack-down) that the truck sales guys have quite a bit of flexibility on pricing which allows them to give good deals to their frequent and high volume customers.

I knew a guy who ran his own truck. They are like their own store/franchise. They have to buy their stuff, inventory it, and sell enough to keep their inventory at-or-above their contract levels. If they get a good route, they can do it. If they get a huge, sparesely-populated area, they can go tango-uniform in no time. They have an MSRP and can choose to discount. They tend not to unless they are solvent and have some breathing room.

 

[odot]

They got their own territories, too, dude. "don't you dare hit my part o' town, buddy!!!!"