I always thought that smaller header pipes made for more midrange, larger ones made more top end. Exhaust/tuning experts please chime in here.
I B no X-Pert, but I think if you go too big you lose mid range, you want some back pressure. Maybe the stock was too small?
Don't do it - talk to Dale first. This could be an expensive mistake.
Why does everyone act like horsepower and torque are mutually independent? Power is a function of torque and engine speed.
Ok, fine Big short tubes for high rpm horsepower building, long small diameter tubes for wide fat torque band. Better? I know horsepower is a mathmatical equation based on torque and rpm (horsies and torquies are equal at 5252 IIRC), but characteristics are that of which I speak. and I don't want to give up my header, I need to find a way for it to fit properly, I like the idea of no cats and some heat loss as well as a lighter system, though on the Feej thats kinda like Rosanne Barr ******** with Ultra Slim Fast. I just am bummed it didn't just bolt up as advertised.
As nice an offer as this may be, I don't see the benefit. The Vinces are no more likely to fit than are the D&D's I have now. Besides, The Vinces are, at a minimum, $200 more than I paid for the D's. The system will go together, and it will be bitchin. It just ain't gonna be the cakewalk it first appeared it might be. And that kinda sucks, for me now, and I think for future sales of the header for those who already have cans they like.Hey RM,If anyone can figure this out it is you...but why do you want to do a bunch of metal work when you don't have to ??
Tell ya what, I'll call Bike Effects and have my back ordered Leo Vince slip on's sent to your address and you send me your D&D's and I'll pay the shipping.
Since I have no intention on changing my headers until I can see a pic and you guys have gone thru a summer and can say that during 100F temps you can say it was a "cool" ride with the new headers
Waiting for your PM...
OK, but no one can say that I didn't try to help the one and only RM. And I didn't make fun of you during your "challenge" like TWN.As nice an offer as this may be, I don't see the benefit. The Vinces are no more likely to fit than are the D&D's I have now. Besides, The Vinces are, at a minimum, $200 more than I paid for the D's. The system will go together, and it will be bitchin. It just ain't gonna be the cakewalk it first appeared it might be. And that kinda sucks, for me now, and I think for future sales of the header for those who already have cans they like.
True dat. Have sent several emails to him, unanswered as of yet. He is, however, on a personal emergency right now I believe, so it's understandable. Frustrating, but understandable. I'm at least a month from riding, but I hate unfinished projects. Once started, I go till it's done, a holdover from my racing days I guess.
I talked to Dale Walker myself, as I have Leo Vinces. They won't work! He said that the mid pipe on the Leos would have to be expanded to fit over the header. Since the Leos have stainless mid pipes, and by Dale's own admission, stainless is brittle (his headers are mild steel) I wouldn't risk my Leos my screwing with the mid pipes. I think he missed the boat on this one, and should have made the header the same size as stock.Hey RM,If anyone can figure this out it is you...but why do you want to do a bunch of metal work when you don't have to ??
Tell ya what, I'll call Bike Effects and have my back ordered Leo Vince slip on's sent to your address and you send me your D&D's and I'll pay the shipping.
Since I have no intention on changing my headers until I can see a pic and you guys have gone thru a summer and can say that during 100F temps you can say it was a "cool" ride with the new headers
Waiting for your PM...
