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very true! and we have PLENTY of them around here!!

I would not use that crap in my tires.
Why is that? I know you can't believe everything you see on a website, but I was hoping to hear from people that have used it with either good or bad results

 
very true! and we have PLENTY of them around here!!

I would not use that crap in my tires.
Why is that? I know you can't believe everything you see on a website, but I was hoping to hear from people that have used it with either good or bad results
Ha, ha; this is what makes the World go round, REALLY! AJ and I have a difference of opinion on this one, I have used Fix-A-Flat with great success. Not sure about Ride-On sealant, so perhaps HotRodZilla is right about that particular product. https://www.fixaflat.com I've used this at least half a dozen times!

I was on my way to San Miguel de Allende via Nuevo Laredo-Mexico one year and I picked up a nail in rear tire of my BMW R1100GS in Van Horn, TX. Bought a can of aerosol tire sealant, put it in the tire after I pulled out the nail, completed the entire trip of 5K miles and only repaired in when I got back to AZ!

 
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I have not had great results with ride on sealant. I have never used it on a motorcycle, either. IMO I would only use ride on sealant in a tire that I was just trying to get home or to a shop to replace. It makes a mess of the inside of the tire. Buy the compressor and repair kit. It will fit under the seat. I rode the Dragon and the Cherohalla at NAFO 2010 on a plugged rear 2-up. That pretty well sums up my level of confidence with a plugged tire.

 
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Is there a reason you don't want to plug yourself. It is very cheap, very easy and safe and reliable. Worse case it ends up not sealing well enough and you have a slow leak.

 
Is there a reason you don't want to plug yourself. It is very cheap, very easy and safe and reliable. Worse case it ends up not sealing well enough and you have a slow leak.

 
Couple of pics taken of a recent repair to my rear tyre. The puncture was caused by a piece of (very sharp) flint which cut an oblong shape. I repaired it at the roadside and took the pics several days afterwards just for fun...........
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From the inside

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Still riding with no problems. Losing about 1 psi every two days.
To me, this shows that not enough of the sticky string remained inside of the tire. Ideally, very little (maybe a 1/2") should be left to be cut off from the outside. And, always cut off any protruding string flush with tire, so the string can't be drawn out. If done properly, no pressure will be lost for the life of the tire other than normal pressure loss. I have to admit though, that oblong cuts are more difficult than simple nail holes.

 
When you plug it, let it sit for a day or two. That will help the rubber cement cure better and will help guarantee a leak-free plug. I'm riding on a patched tire now; in fact, I just did a 1,000 mile road trip on it and it's all good.
If you use a sticky string plug, you can ride off into the sunset immediately, but check the pressure after about five miles to be sure. This all assumes that your not trying to repair a gash.

 
I think this happened for a reason! I've been putting off getting a tire repair kit (plugs) and a mini-inflator. I don't know why, because it could happen anytime. This time I was lucky that my bike was nice and safe in the garage, next time it could be 150 miles from home, Yikes!

This is what I plan on getting:

https://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/13764/i/slime-power-sport-tire-inflator?SiteID=SLI|Tire%20Inflator&WT.MC_ID=10010

https://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/4552/i/slime-t-handle-reamer-plugger-kit

 
My experience with RideOn stuff is all someone else's, so take my opinion for what it is worth. Until that linked review, I have never heard of someone having a good experience with it. First, there is cost. Then, I have friends who complained that their tires were significantly out of balance and would not maintain balance because that stuff would move around and gather in different areas. Lastly, my best friend is a Manager at Discount Tire. He despises that stuff because of the mess it causes. Not all tires are a mess, but apparently the ones that are are awful. I have heard it cures punctures very well, but it's the side effects that are a bitch. My mountain bike has had heavy duty tubes and Slime sealant in them for years. In tubes it is great because it is contained, but if a tube blows and that stuff gets out, it's a frigging mess. Same as if it's on the loose in a rim.

FWIW, I actually agree with Beemerdons. I would use Fix-a-Flat in a tire if I had to. I fact, I have used it a couple times, but as someone else stated, it has been and would be a temporary repair until I could get the tire fixed properly.

As far as plugs are concerned, back in November, I was with my family getting wood for my mom. I punctured a rear tire on a sharp piece of wood. My brother and I plugged it and then aired it up to 60lbs. I would have just left it, but the puncture was right at the shoulder and I have the warranty from Discount Tire, so it cost me $20 to replace. Hell, even with the puncture where it was, if I had needed to replace a $225 tire, I probably would have left it. When they replaced the tire, it was still at 60lbs, and that pressure didn't push it out. That's good considering we had a trailer full of wood and the back of the truck.

 
Is there a reason you don't want to plug yourself. It is very cheap, very easy and safe and reliable. Worse case it ends up not sealing well enough and you have a slow fast leak.
builderwill, this BMW R1100RS is owned by my good friend Chuck "Frenchy" Doucet of the AZ Beemers Club here in Arizona. In November of 2004 returning from Cabo San Lucas in Baja California Sur, Mexico: Carlos picked up a nail in his rear tire.

Señor Doucet and an FJR Forum Admin who will remain nameless hogged out a hole so freaking big trying to plug the leak that the tire now had a fast leak.

Leaving the plug in and adding my can of Fix-A-Flat allowed Chuck to make it home to Scottsdale with a tire holding air. jes' sayin' and nuff said!

I always now try the aerosol leak sealant first, if that does not work then I will ream the hole for using sticky string and the Gorilla Snot glue! JSNS!

Baja010.jpg


 
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This is very similar to what I use. I use NO glue and the results are always good.
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Add a razor blade for cutting off the excess string flush to the tire.
I prefer the tool on the right with a T-Handle, easier to penetrate the hole in the tire with the string...

 
Is there a reason you don't want to plug yourself. It is very cheap, very easy and safe and reliable. Worse case it ends up not sealing well enough and you have a slow fast leak.
builderwill, this BMW R1100RS is owned by my good friend Chuck "Frenchy" Doucet of the AZ Beemers Club here in Arizona. In November of 2004 returning from Cabo San Lucas in Baja California Sur, Mexico: Carlos picked up a nail in his rear tire.

Señor Doucet and an FJR Forum Admin who will remain nameless hogged out a hole so freaking big trying to plug the leak that the tire now had a fast leak.

Leaving the plug in and adding my can of Fix-A-Flat allowed Chuck to make it home to Scottsdale with a tire holding air. jes' sayin' and nuff said!

I always now try the aerosol leak sealant first, if that does not work then I will ream the hole for using sticky string and the Gorilla Snot glue! JSNS!

Baja010.jpg
I kinda like those fancy blue pipes...I'm thinkin the flat was not the only problem with that bike...JSNS

 
I'm of the opinion that using glue with a sticky string in not a good idea unless you are prepared to wait for the glue to cure. Until the glue cures, the glue acts more as a lubricant helping to spit the plug out. The strings are naturally extremely sticky with their own adhesives built in.

 
This is very similar to what I use. I use NO glue and the results are always good.
41eRzQPSpbL.jpg


Add a razor blade for cutting off the excess string flush to the tire.
I prefer the tool on the right with a T-Handle, easier to penetrate the hole in the tire with the string...
Very true, but the straight version packs easier.

 
Is there a reason you don't want to plug yourself. It is very cheap, very easy and safe and reliable. Worse case it ends up not sealing well enough and you have a slow fast leak.
builderwill, this BMW R1100RS is owned by my good friend Chuck "Frenchy" Doucet of the AZ Beemers Club here in Arizona. In November of 2004 returning from Cabo San Lucas in Baja California Sur, Mexico: Carlos picked up a nail in his rear tire.

Señor Doucet and an FJR Forum Admin who will remain nameless hogged out a hole so freaking big trying to plug the leak that the tire now had a fast leak.

Leaving the plug in and adding my can of Fix-A-Flat allowed Chuck to make it home to Scottsdale with a tire holding air. jes' sayin' and nuff said!

I always now try the aerosol leak sealant first, if that does not work then I will ream the hole for using sticky string and the Gorilla Snot glue! JSNS!

Baja010.jpg
I kinda like those fancy blue pipes...I'm thinkin the flat was not the only problem with that bike...JSNS
Uh Joe, that bike now has over 200K miles on it! Dude, when you have that many miles on your FJR you can mention that to Chuck! jes' sayin' and nuff said!

 
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I think this happened for a reason! I've been putting off getting a tire repair kit (plugs) and a mini-inflator. I don't know why, because it could happen anytime. This time I was lucky that my bike was nice and safe in the garage, next time it could be 150 miles from home, Yikes!
This is what I plan on getting:

https://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/13764/i/slime-power-sport-tire-inflator?SiteID=SLI|Tire%20Inflator&WT.MC_ID=10010

https://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/4552/i/slime-t-handle-reamer-plugger-kit
A $43 pump geeze. This one for $10 works great. Had mine for a couple years now and it was even completely submerged in water for several minutes and still works. https://www.amazon.com/Slime-40020-Tire-Top-Inflator/dp/B002ZC1EOM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1392836804&sr=8-1&keywords=slime+top+off

And the reamer plug kit for $6 https://www.amazon.com/Slime-2040-A-Tire-Plug-Kit/dp/B000ET9SAA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1392836884&sr=8-3&keywords=slime+reamer

$35 savings over what you linked.

 
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builderwill, this BMW R1100RS is owned by my good friend Chuck "Frenchy" Doucet of the AZ Beemers Club here in Arizona. In November of 2004 returning from Cabo San Lucas in Baja California Sur, Mexico: Carlos picked up a nail in his rear tire. <br />

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Señor Doucet and an FJR Forum Admin who will remain nameless hogged out a hole so freaking big trying to plug the leak that the tire now had a fast leak. <br />

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Leaving the plug in and adding my can of Fix-A-Flat allowed Chuck to make it home to Scottsdale with a tire holding air. jes' sayin' and nuff said! <br />

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I always now try the aerosol leak sealant first, if that does not work then I will ream the hole for using sticky string and the Gorilla Snot glue! JSNS!<br />

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On the side of the road, makes sense. If it's sitting in your garage like OP, just plug it. Doesn't leak, ride. If it leaks quickly , I'd replace the tire.

Never had any luck with slime. The only thing fix a flat has worked for me is a car tire with a slooww leak around the wheel that I couldn't find or repair otherwise.

 
Is there a reason you don't want to plug yourself. It is very cheap, very easy and safe and reliable. Worse case it ends up not sealing well enough and you have a slow fast leak.
builderwill, this BMW R1100RS is owned by my good friend Chuck "Frenchy" Doucet of the AZ Beemers Club here in Arizona. In November of 2004 returning from Cabo San Lucas in Baja California Sur, Mexico: Carlos picked up a nail in his rear tire.

Señor Doucet and an FJR Forum Admin who will remain nameless hogged out a hole so freaking big trying to plug the leak that the tire now had a fast leak.

Leaving the plug in and adding my can of Fix-A-Flat allowed Chuck to make it home to Scottsdale with a tire holding air. jes' sayin' and nuff said!

I always now try the aerosol leak sealant first, if that does not work then I will ream the hole for using sticky string and the Gorilla Snot glue! JSNS!

Baja010.jpg
I kinda like those fancy blue pipes...I'm thinkin the flat was not the only problem with that bike...JSNS
Uh Joe, that bike now has over 200K miles on it! Dude, when you have that many miles on your FJR you can mention that to Chuck! jes' sayin' and nuff said!
Don...I'm sure that my FJR will hit 200k long before it's 20 years old

 
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