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All this scheduling is making my calendar head spin. We really do need a single calendar with FJR-centric events listed, so that everyone can look at one listing and get a feel for what's what, where & when.
I know there is a Forum Calendar...if everyone would post the events there.

 
Good idea. Just tried to add the Covered Bridges ride this weekend (as a test) and it says I don't have permission to use that feature:(.

 
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All this scheduling is making my calendar head spin. We really do need a single calendar with FJR-centric events listed, so that everyone can look at one listing and get a feel for what's what, where & when.
I know there is a Forum Calendar...if everyone would post the events there.
Good point. I just tried to post CFR. Not allowed :glare:

 
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You guys need to let Iggy or Slappy know about this bug. I posted up on the calendar earlier this year...
Ya, but now we are new and improved ;) It isn't a bug, it is a matter of setting permissions and understanding the possible consequences.

 
I am not listening...

How about a shared google docs calendar?

All this scheduling is making my calendar head spin. We really do need a single calendar with FJR-centric events listed, so that everyone can look at one listing and get a feel for what's what, where & when.

I know somebody who LOVES spreadsheets that just might step up and volunteer.

:)
 
... The only negative I foresee to having multiple EOM events is that, for many of us, money is NOT an insignificant detail.

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Money is a huge consideration. That's why I'm staying at Ed's house. He just doesn't know it yet.

:D

j/k Ed! Take down the fence!
If Ed will not take you in Jeff I'll just put up my pop up camper. You supply the beer however. ;)

Tom

 
Fred,

Perhaps you should be planning a 2012 EOM in New England? I will be happy to help you in any way that you need. IMO early September would be a much better time up here, from the weather to hotel availability. The weekend after Labor Day the hotels empty out until leaf peeking.

 
Further developments to report on this topic.

Yes, there is already an EOM 2011 being organized. I spoke directly with one of the principles last night. (Their names and modus operandi will be quite familiar to anyone who has attended one of the previous EOMs. ) Although their details are not firm or ready for release, their intention is to have EOM '11 in the same general area of the east coast that it has been in the past, ie central states (VA, WV, TN, KY) and in the same general time frame as usual, late September-ish.

With that in mind, I am coming full circle on my thinking (I've been told that circular logic is my forte :huh: ).

I no longer want to have EOM in the Northeast at all. Ever. I think it should forever remain in the center states of the East Coast, where the greatest number of easterners will have a good shot at attending, and where arguably the finest motorcycle roads in America exist. I do not want to dilute what EOM has become. I am also somewhat selfish in that I want to go to EOM '11 down there. ;)

However, I do still believe that there is room in the FJR events calendar in the August time frame we have proposed for us to have a destination ride-in up here in New England. With that in mind I pledge to continue to organize our group of locals, and with their help, along with the guidance and advice of some of the same EOM organizers, get things set-up in basically the same format as what EOMs have traditionally been down south. This will allow folks that can't get to EOM in September due to its timing, and also anyone with a hankering to come up and visit Northern New England, the opportunity to ride on up and enjoy a summer weekend up in the northern mountains.

Look forward to full details on this New England gathering (whatever we end up calling it) to be released before Jan 1st, 2011.

Thanks so much to everyone who chimed in with their opinions, support and offers to help. I think that what we will end up with here is best possible outcome. Options are always good. You'll get to have your EOM cake and ride New England too!! :yahoo:

 
Look forward to full details on this New England gathering (whatever we end up calling it) to be released before Jan 1st, 2011.
Good on ya, Fred! From the outside looking in, it looks to me like you've handled this in a very considerate and professional manner.

Susie and I will definitely be watching and, if we're able, attend the event you're organizing!

 
OK, since i'm once again being thrown under the bus for stepping aside and letting folks who wanted to plan NAFO due just that. Let me take a moment to set the record straight.

Bob: Please get out a calendar and follow along.

At EOM 08 in Lewisburg, WV. Violine (Jay) and I had a brief conversation about NAFO 2010. Jay had attended NAFO 08 and had some conversations with Ignacio, Warchild, and whoever else about the potential to do NAFO 2010 somewhere in the East. During our brief conversation I mentioned to Jay that it was really too early to do any real planning for NAFO 2010 until after EOM 09. I had already committed to head up EOM 09, as Wayne (Extrememarine) headed the EOM in 08.

At EOM 09 in Johnson City, TN several people had been asking throughout the weekend about plans for NAFO in 2010. Instead of explaining it 30 times over I told people we would cover that at the banquet on Saturday. At the banquet the only thing I said is that NAFO 2010 was going to be in the east and that as soon as any details were available they would be made public so people can make plans to attend.

A few weeks after EOM 09 this thread about NAFO 2010 got started again about when/where/etc. Since NO ONE had said anything to me about NAFO since EOM 08 I did start looking into a few different locations/venues. As you will see in that thread, on the 24th of September last year I posted that when details were available they would be posted right away.

On October 15th, 2009 I got a message from Luvtoride (Heidi) asking: "Are you planning to step up for planning NAFO in 2010? If so, you may consider letting Jay & I step down first b4 taking reins."

After receiving that PM I replied and copied Jay on my response and apologized if I had stepped on any toes but since I hadn't heard anything about NAFO plans I assumed that they were no longer interested. I explained that it was really fine that they take it as I was facing some pretty big obstacles both professionally and personally. I wished them the best and quietly stepped aside. I even directed people later in that thread linked above to contact Jay and Heidi if they had specific questions.

That was October 15th, 2009, nearly one year before the eventual date for NAFO 2010. So Bob, where in this timeline do you see a rift between forums or someone trying to claim ownership of EOM/NAFO. The PM's are in my mailbox here on this forum, i will gladly send them to you or better yet have one of the admins of this site get them for you. You have my permission. The only thing I have ownership of that has anything to do with EOM is the domain fjreom.com and I will gladly transfer that to anyone who would like to use it. Your responsibility to pay the renewal.

I will admit that I might not have responded to PM's people sent me within the past 6-8 months. I also have been nearly absent from this and other forums because I have had some serious issues to deal with like a lot of people right now with the times that we live in. I hope this clears the air and we can move forward. Like my avatar says "FJR Forum, We Know Drama"

BTW: NAFO was the 4th weekend in September. <_<

JW
I expect that Bob's intention was not to throw you under a bus.

Something that needs to be made perfectly clear is that 2 of us were specifically ASKED/INVITED by past planners to plan NAFO 10. WE DID NOT VOLUNTEER. I actually told you that in widely unanswered PM's.

I'm not wanting to ensue a pissing match here. It is what it is. I expect you had your reasoning for how you handled things & I know we had reasoning for how we handled things.

 
Fred, will be awaiting an announcement of whatever you or someone else plans in the NE. Good luck, Heidi

 
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Fred said: "I no longer want to have EOM in the Northeast at all. Ever. I think it should forever remain in the center states of the East Coast, where the greatest number of easterners will have a good shot at attending, and where arguably the finest motorcycle roads in America exist."

Being from SE Pennsylvania, you had me all worked up, then . . . BAM! . . . you slam the door! Not so fast! I've made the last 3 events down south and there is no denying the roads are hard to beat, but take a look at the Member Map and you'll see a fair number of riders concentrated through the NE Corridor, Washington to Boston, and it's not like they all "flocked" to any of the events in the south. I believe the "hardcore" riders from the south and midwest will make it to New England and I only ask that you don't rule out holding an EOM in the NE. You may have a turnout that might suprise you.

 
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... The only negative I foresee to having multiple EOM events is that, for many of us, money is NOT an insignificant detail.

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Money is a huge consideration. That's why I'm staying at Ed's house. He just doesn't know it yet.

:D

j/k Ed! Take down the fence!
No Problem... Tent spaces in the yard will be reasonably priced. (There may be a small surcharge for "Level" spots) I'll save a spot near the campfire ring for ya... ;)

Seriously, If this event happens to end up being based in the northern VT (Waterbury-Stowe) area, I'd be more than happy to host a "Bar-B-Q" or campfire gathering at my house for the attendees.

Ed.

 
Fred!! for the love o'Pete!! Plan a ride, give it a name, and they will come. Easy peasy. See you there.

Rob

How does NERD sound New England Ride 'n Drink?

 
Fred said: "I no longer want to have EOM in the Northeast at all. Ever. I think it should forever remain in the center states of the East Coast, where the greatest number of easterners will have a good shot at attending, and where arguably the finest motorcycle roads in America exist."

Being from SE Pennsylvania, you had me all worked up, then . . . BAM! . . . you slam the door! Not so fast! I've made the last 3 events down south and there is no denying the roads are hard to beat, but take a look at the Member Map and you'll see a fair number of riders concentrated through the NE Corridor, Washington to Boston, and it's not like they all "flocked" to any of the events in the south. I believe the "hardcore" riders from the south and midwest will make it to New England and I only ask that you don't rule out holding an EOM in the NE. You may have a turnout that might suprise you.

pacurverider, There will be an event in New England, most likely in August. It will not be known as EOM. We'll call it something else.

I have no doubts that (if we do a decent job of organizing and promoting the event) there will be a good turn out.

Fred!! for the love o'Pete!! Plan a ride, give it a name, and they will come. Easy peasy. See you there.

Rob

How does NERD sound New England Ride 'n Drink?
I love it!!!

 
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