hurt my back trying to put fjr on center stand

[TownsendsFJR1300]

My old 04 Goldwing was a little easier to get on the center stand than the FJR.

As previously mentioned, use your weight with your right foot when pressing down utilizing the grab rail. When removing from the center stand, I leave the kick stand DOWN, the push it off from the right side. I also keep slight pressure on the ft brake lever for control.

As a side note, I don't use the center stand except for maintainance. I do carry a side stand plate should I find my self on soft ground/fresh pavement so I don't sink.

 

[doctorJ]

"Let me bulk up a little and I'll go on a demo tour"

Just work on the Pectoral muscles (got some good exercises I could show ya). That's all you need to get it up. :blush:

doctorj

 

[James Burleigh]

Every day, twice a day (work day anyway), I slam that baby up onto its center stand. And every day, twice a day, I feel the sinews in my arms and shoulders tug in a compromising and presumed some-day painful rehabilitation-required way. It's never my back. It's that upward tug that accompanies the downward press of the foot. I try to maximize the body-weight contribution, but it's never enough by itself. Maybe I should just leave it on the side stand. But it's so much easier getting in and out of the trunk and bags when level. What a lame bike. Maybe I should just get a C-14.

 

[MEM]

"Let me bulk up a little and I'll go on a demo tour"
Just work on the Pectoral muscles (got some good exercises I could show ya). That's all you need to get it up. :blush:

doctorj

Oh, I have good pecs baby. Worked on them just this morning, as a matter of fact. (at the GYM, for the wankers among you) :weight_lift:

 

[wfooshee]

All right, already! I had nothing better to do this morning, so here!!! Merry Christmas.



You may say, "Damn, Walter, no wonder it's so easy for you. Look at that gut!!!"

I would reply with, "It ain't the weight, it's the press down on the centerstand tang. I can stand on the tang and not move the bike. It's not till you grab the handle and press down that the bike rolls up. Which, by the way, is why the handle is exactly over the centerstand."

 

[doctorJ]

"Let me bulk up a little and I'll go on a demo tour"
Just work on the Pectoral muscles (got some good exercises I could show ya). That's all you need to get it up. :blush:

doctorj

Oh, I have good pecs baby. Worked on them just this morning, as a matter of fact. (at the GYM, for the wankers among you) :weight_lift:

OK, now for this post, I can absolutely say: "THIS POST IS WORTHLESS WITHOUT PICS"

BTW, I been doing some upper body stuff meself on da machines too. If I do too much, will I need a manbra or brobra or sumpin? :blink:

doctorj

 

[MEM]

"Let me bulk up a little and I'll go on a demo tour"
Just work on the Pectoral muscles (got some good exercises I could show ya). That's all you need to get it up. :blush:

doctorj

Oh, I have good pecs baby. Worked on them just this morning, as a matter of fact. (at the GYM, for the wankers among you) :weight_lift:

OK, now for this post, I can absolutely say: "THIS POST IS WORTHLESS WITHOUT PICS"

BTW, I been doing some upper body stuff meself on da machines too. If I do too much, will I need a manbra or brobra or sumpin? :blink:

doctorj

Sorry - I've been drinking (Christmas party) so can't post now. Hard to say what'd end up here (geez - I might end up giving you the password to my "special" photo gallery and only one very special person has THAT )

 

[SacramentoMike]

Here's an amazing product I saw at the bike show in San Mateo a couple weeks ago. The main purpose of this thing, at least as far as the way they promote it, is the ability to move and slide the bike around on it while parked. You really have to see it work to believe it, which you can just by clicking on the video link at this site. It would be great for a crowded garage, for example. (Have to admit, the vid doesn't even show the product for the first three minutes or so, but still . . . )

But in the context of this thread, it makes getting the bike up on the center stand incredibly easy. You might think it would be harder, since the platform under the stand actually raises the total height you have to raise the bike by half an inch or so, but what happens is, instead of having to kind of horse the bike back onto the stand, once it just begins to raise up, the stand itself just slides effortlessly forward under the bike. I tried it at the booth and I couldn't believe the difference. I'd say it was about HALF the effort--or even less--with the stand than without it. They were selling for $200 at the show.

But the main reason I posted was to say something to the OP. TMonroe: when you get one of those spasms in your back or your neck, you DON'T want the hot water bottle. In the first hour or so, especially, you want ICE! That's the way to keep swelling down and prevent soreness later on. Google "icing an injury" or something if you don't believe me. Been doing it for years. (I've been over 40 for a long time.)

And Wfooshee, no fair. That driveway had a pretty good downhill slope.

 

[doctorJ]

"Let me bulk up a little and I'll go on a demo tour"
Just work on the Pectoral muscles (got some good exercises I could show ya). That's all you need to get it up. :blush:

doctorj

Oh, I have good pecs baby. Worked on them just this morning, as a matter of fact. (at the GYM, for the wankers among you) :weight_lift:

OK, now for this post, I can absolutely say: "THIS POST IS WORTHLESS WITHOUT PICS"

BTW, I been doing some upper body stuff meself on da machines too. If I do too much, will I need a manbra or brobra or sumpin? :blink:

doctorj

Sorry - I've been drinking (Christmas party) so can't post now. Hard to say what'd end up here (geez - I might end up giving you the password to my "special" photo gallery and only one very special person has THAT )

That's OK MEM, I'm not sure my heart could handle it, and BC is way to far from the ocean beaches of NC anyway, . But if'n you change your mind, it might be worth my heart going zippity zap, . BTW, I ain't into pornography since my pornograph broke, so hope they ain't too racy, :yahoo:

doctorj

 

[wheatonFJR]

The FJR is hard to get up.

 

[wfooshee]

And Wfooshee, no fair. That driveway had a pretty good downhill slope.

It's not enough to bump-start the bike. . . . You might recall my starter thread some weeks ago.

 

[jpcfjr]

I'll be honest, for the first week or so, I could not get the beast up on the stand and I hurt my back every time I tried. But, once I STOPPED trying to use the stupid handle under the seat and started using the grab bar instead, it is MUCH easier. The handle under the seat causes me to bend over too much and thus the back pain.

Certainly the fatter you are the easier it is. I've lost 10 pounds in the last month and I can feel the difference when I try to get the bike up. I have to push down more than before. I use the center stand every day and everywhere I go. It is safer. I have only taken the bike down from the center stand once without being on the bike and I didn't like it at all. Get on the bike to take it off the stand...then just ride away.

 

[MEM]

That's OK MEM, I'm not sure my heart could handle it, and BC is way to far from the ocean beaches of NC anyway, . But if'n you change your mind, it might be worth my heart going zippity zap, . BTW, I ain't into pornography since my pornograph broke, so hope they ain't too racy, :yahoo:
doctorj

Doc - you have me on the wrong coast - I'm in NB I was (kind of) in your neck of the woods in October.... Timberlake, just north of Durham.

ps - nah, photos aren't racy

 

[doctorJ]

That's OK MEM, I'm not sure my heart could handle it, and BC is way to far from the ocean beaches of NC anyway, . But if'n you change your mind, it might be worth my heart going zippity zap, . BTW, I ain't into pornography since my pornograph broke, so hope they ain't too racy, :yahoo:
doctorj

Doc - you have me on the wrong coast - I'm in NB I was (kind of) in your neck of the woods in October.... Timberlake, just north of Durham.

ps - nah, photos aren't racy

My bad. I realized that after posting. I gotta get all my Canadian geography in right order. Great country, but don't think I want to be there in winter. :cold: BTW, I'm about 2 1/2 hr. east of Durham on the coast and used to live in Charlotte.

doctorj

 

[MEM]

My bad. I realized that after posting. I gotta get all my Canadian geography in right order. Great country, but don't think I want to be there in winter. :cold: BTW, I'm about 2 1/2 hr. east of Durham on the coast and used to live in Charlotte.
doctorj

I had hoped to ride the Outer Banks on that trip but we had too much fun in the mountains! Next time....

 

[Fred W]

Here's an amazing product I saw at the bike show in San Mateo a couple weeks ago.

Followed your link Mike, and wouldn't you know it? They had a short video there on how to put a bike on the center stand (even without their dolly).

Here's a

to the video on YouTube

 

[chrisflock]

I've seen a guy put his bike on the centerstand without using any sort of grab-handle for the right arm...he put his foot on the tang, used his left hand on the handlebar to stand it straight up (yes, his wheel was all to one side, very disturbing) and popped it up. He was demonstrating that there need be no 'lifting' on the back of the bike.

Chris

 

[tmonroe]

I've seen a guy put his bike on the centerstand without using any sort of grab-handle for the right arm...he put his foot on the tang, used his left hand on the handlebar to stand it straight up (yes, his wheel was all to one side, very disturbing) and popped it up. He was demonstrating that there need be no 'lifting' on the back of the bike.
Chris

hmmm... I don't see how that would be possible for me - at least not on my FJR.

(ugh, put me back on the injured list )

If I stand straight up and put my full weight on the tang, the bike does rise up a little, but not nearly enough to be able to push back onto the stand.

So here's what's funny. When I first hurt my back, I was worried that I'd have to cancel the class I was teaching over the weekend - it was an MSF basic rider course with all scooters (yes, something like this does exist ). Ironically all of the scooters we use in training have center stands.

I was pretty happy friday when I was able to go to the gym, and work out without any pain or real restriction other than just taking it very easy to make sure I wasn't hurting myself on each excercise before I added any on significant weight. Saturday morning I was just a little stiff, so I didn't have to back out of the class.

I taught all day saturday, and the only time my back gave me any trouble was when I had to bend over to pick up cones. I was lucky I was teaching with my wife, and she did all the cone placement, and the rest of teaching didn't bother me - including taking the scooters off their center stands and putting them back. After class we have to move the bikes several times to get them put away, and with moving all the scooters, I easily must have done this 100 times between saturday and sunday. (granted, the FJR should be harder to put on a center stand given its heavier weight - but the Goldwing (which I used to put on the center stand regularly) should also be harder than the FJR too.

I've been watching this video, plus the instructions in this and the referenced threads:



I've been carpooling earlier this week, but I did ride in this morning. I got to the same parking area, and when I put the sidestand down, I noticed it sunk into the soft ground, so I thought I'd try the centerstand. I tried to get the bike up by just stablizing it and using my weight, but it wouldn't move enough to get up on the stand. I thought it might be because of the soft ground, so I moved it over to pavement, and tried again (standing on the tang with my full weight @215 + gear - only using my hands to stablize), and again, it doesn't lift anywhere near enough to get the bike on the stand.

So then I thought I'd try the "lift up and press down" method. Right foot, and I tried the lower handle, and once again, I got a shooting pain in my back (although interestingly enough its in my left hip, which makes me think that this position is causing me to twist) - I think I may have actually used my right foot last week too - I just assumed that since the pain was in my left hip that I was using my left leg last time - that may not have been the case.

Its also likely that I wasn't fully healed up from last week. So I don't know. I think I need to stop trying to put it on the centerstand for a couple of months, and then when I'm sure I've healed, I'll try it again and take a video and post it and maybe somebody can point out what I'm doing wrong. Heh, if nothing else, "Rider hurting back putting fjr on centerstand" might get a lot of youtube hits for laughs...

At least I didn't mess it up as badly as I did last week. I was able to walk over to the gym at lunch, and again, a nice progressively challenging workout with lots of easy stretching seems to have alleviated most of the symptoms (gotta love endorphins).

It seems like the individual in the video is much shorter than I am, and he is able to reach the lower handle without bending over (much, if at all). For me, doing this is awkward, because I can't easily bend at the knee to reach the handle, because the bike is in the way. When I tried it this morning, I moved to a position where I could reach the handle, but I suspect I was lifting at least partly with my back. I was going very easy, and not using much force to lift up, and I still managed to pull something.

I'm just about certain that the GL1800 would have gone on the center stand without any lifting at all (I mean, duh - how could anybody lift a 900# bike while standing next to it).

Its also possible I suppose that I have some undiscovered problem with my back, that maybe doesn't cause me problems until I do this one particular activity. If that's the case, as long as this is my only limitation, I won't complain too much.

 

[wfooshee]

That's my vid, made just for you!!! B)

I'm 6 feet even, if that helps you measure it out. When I grab the handle I'm leaned forward just a bit, but not too much. I have had back pain enough that the centerstand would be painful, if not impossible, so I may know where you're coming from.

And like I said earlier, just standing on the tang isn't enough to roll it up, even with my bulk and girth (260. ish.) The pressure on the tang comes from pressing with the leg (quadracep,) not from lifting with your back. You say who can lift a 900# Wing. . .. well, who can lift a 650# Feej? Same thing. Anyway, maybe with some time to settle those back muscles down it'll be easier. But don't yank or lift at the handle, just press your foot down while keeping your fingers in the handle, arm straight, standing as straight as you can. (And don't rush it with your back. That kind of muscle injury can take a LONG time to get better. I spent years recovering from a bad swing in a softball game.)

Has your bike been lowered? That would make it MUCH more difficult, as the centerstand couldn't actually reach its correct starting position.

I've seen two people using the wrong technique to raise the bike, and corrected both of them. They were both absolutely amazed at the difference, one to the point of murderous anger at how much effort he'd expended for so long trying to use the grab handles.

The centerstand lifts the bike, working as a lever. The rider does NOT lift the bike.

 

[MEM]

That's my vid, made just for you!!! B)
I'm 6 feet even, if that helps you measure it out. When I grab the handle I'm leaned forward just a bit, but not too much. I have had back pain enough that the centerstand would be painful, if not impossible, so I may know where you're coming from.

And like I said earlier, just standing on the tang isn't enough to roll it up, even with my bulk and girth (260. ish.) The pressure on the tang comes from pressing with the leg (quadracep,) not from lifting with your back. The centerstand lifts the bike, working as a lever. The rider does NOT lift the bike.

Thanks for clarifying that. All my weight-training must be paying off !