Installing Universal Brake Light Flasher/Strober

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So, after reading about the Whelen super high intensity brake lights, I've decided to go half way and bought a couple of these brake light modulators. This modulator can be used to flash the stock brake lights, or the stock lights upgraded with LED "bulbs", or can be used to flash one of the more expensive, super bright 3rd gen LED auxiliary brake lights. The price was right so I figured I'd score a couple and put one on the FJR and one on my Triumph.

Installing it requires you to put the device in series between the brake switches and the lamps you want to flash. In the tail section (that is accessible with covers on) the wires are already split for the 2 brake bulbs. You would want to install the flasher before the wire splits. Does anyone know off hand, where does that yellow wire split? I haven't yet taken the rear shrouds off to investigate more thoroughly, but I would guess they would do it as close as possible to the bulbs (to save $$ on wire).

Just looking for some confirmation before I go ripping all the rear covers off.

 
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So, after reading about the Whelen super high intensity brake lights, I've decided to go half way and bought a couple of these brake light modulators. This modulator can be used to flash the stock brake lights, or the stock lights upgraded with LED "bulbs", or can be used to flash one of the more expensive, super bright 3rd gen LED auxiliary brake lights. The price was right so I figured I'd score a couple and put one on the FJR and one on my Triumph.
Installing it requires you to put the device in series between the brake switches and the lamps you want to flash. In the tail section (that is accessible with covers on) the wires are already split for the 2 brake bulbs. You would want to install the flasher before the wire splits. Does anyone know off hand, where does that yellow wire split? I haven't yet taken the rear shrouds off to investigate more thoroughly, but I would guess they would do it as close as possible to the bulbs (to save $$ on wire).

Just looking for some confirmation before I go ripping all the rear covers off.
On my '03 the yellow wire runs down the left side of the bike, in the black sheath, between the ECU and the lights in the rear. It doesn't split until it reaches the rear. I split the sheath, pulled the yellow wire out, and spliced in the flasher (different brand), put it back and taped up the whole thing.

 
The yellow wire is very accessible down on the right side at the brake light switch. Maybe you have to run longer wires to the modulator, depending on where you put it, but you don't have to tear into the wiring harness under the seat.

 
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I recently installed these on my dad's RT.

https://www.p3lights.com/

He picked them up at the BMW Rally, they are not cheap. The voltage meter 'upgrade' isn't really worth it, but he got that set for the price of the one's w/o.

They are very very nice. They flicker at some frequency that isn't annoying but is very noticeable.

I've had hyperlights, but these are mo-betta and worth the extra $40 or so. (the hyperlights I was looking at were $90)

Of course that modulator is more inline with my budget.

 
Indeed it is, but that is only the yellow wire from the rear brake switch. Since this gizmo is installed in series it has to be after the front and rear switches are wired (or-ed) together. Not sure where that happens, but I will find out. It might be up under the seat where the rear brake light switch harness runs. That would be a convenient spot to put this thing.

Like most any electrical farkle, I am installing this in a way that it can be easily removed and restored to stock configuration, at roadside, with no tools. So the connections will be made with molex type pins so that the farkle can be quickly removed should it go tits up. I have also installed a momentary push-button switch so I can change the flasher modes whenever I feel like it. I really like the fast flash, strobe mode, but think it will be lost with incandescent bulbs. Should I decide to upgrade the tail lamps to LEDs or add a Whelen mega-LED on the back the strobe will be the attention getting mode of choice.

Here's the flasher prepared for install.

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Thanks.

Yikes, P3 is very proud of their lights!! :rolleyes:

For $50-60 you can get the 3rd gen lights like the Whelen or the one Galaxy has (forget exactly and too lazy to search). Those are way bright.

 
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Yikes, P3 is very proud of their lights!! :rolleyes:

For $50-60 you can get the 3rd gen lights like the Whelen or the one Galaxy has (forget exactly and too lazy to search). Those are way bright.
Yeah, they are not cheap which is why I didn't buy them at the rally. But after installing them, I was very impressed. They are bright (hyperlight bright) only they do oscillate or flash at some frequency that does get your attention. Not put you into an epileptic seisure flash, but very effective.

I think the Whelen's might be too bright at night. Waiting to see how your module install goes.

The wires for the tail/brake light are right there in the bundle, at the tail on the left side. I *think* the taillight is a blue wire, that's what I tapped into for my FuzeBlock relay trigger.

Which like you said would be a perfect place to tuck that little gem.

-MD

 
Thanks for asking this. I have this exact farkle to do in the next lil bit. :)

 
Indeed it is, but that is only the yellow wire from the rear brake switch. Since this gizmo is installed in series it has to be after the front and rear switches are wired (or-ed) together. Not sure where that happens, but I will find out. It might be up under the seat where the rear brake light switch harness runs. That would be a convenient spot to put this thing.
You're right, I missed the "in series" part. Glad I'm not running the IBR with reading comprehension like that. :rolleyes:

As for a space, there's an empty box under the tool tray, not sure how easy it is to get to on an ABS bike, though. Where a battery goes on a "normal" bike.

 
Well, it appears that Howie has been right all along; the rear end is the place to go. :p

I had to pull the side panels off anyway to get off the rear cover, so I went ahead and pulled out the tool tray so I could chase the yellow wire from the rear brake pedal switch. It crosses over to the left side and then gets buried in the wire bundle headed to the rear before getting joined with the front brake switch. The junction must be somewhere inside the left side wire bundle. Not worth finding exactly where, IMO.

After you get the rear covers all off (have to remove the luggage rack first), the tail light assembly wiring all goes through a single quick-disconnect connector on the rear, left hand side. The entire tail lamp assembly can be unplugged and removed with one bolt so that you can work on a bench (that's handy!). There is only one yellow wire going through that connector, then in the first 3-4" is the split for the two bulbs. It is hidden in a short piece of tubing used as a loom, but the tubing is only taped into place, and you can slide it up the harness to gain access to the splices. The splice is only taped-up under the tubing as well. This seems like a good place make the connections.

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First, I cut out the brass butt splice in the picture above. Then I took the two wires running off to the tail lamps and spliced an 8" yellow extension wire to them so I could make my connections more accessible under the seat after re-install. To the shorter wire going back to the connector I also added an 8" extension, but this one is yellow with a brown tracer so that I could keep track of which side is the supply vs the load. I then unwrapped the ground junction in that same wire bundle and soldered an 8" black extension wire to it. All new splices were covered in shrink tubing. I pulled all three new wires up through the same piece of loom tubing and then slid the tubing back down over the splices

On the new yellow wire I crimped and soldered a male molex pin. The yellow / brown wire (supply side) gets a female molex pin. I covered the two molex pins entirely with shrink tubing except for the contact portion of the male pin (just the last cm or so). The module wires were already prepared the same way (but in reverse). The module's red wire gets the male molex pin as it connects to the supply side. The module's yellow wire gets the female as it will hook up to the new yellow wire that runs to the tail lights. I color coded the shrink tubing to help identify which wires go together when installed. Yes, I am anal retentive...

With the connectors arranged this way it will prevent accidentally connecting the module in reverse polarity, and if the flasher module happens to crap out I can just disconnect the two molex connections and reconnect the yellow and yellow/brown wires together on the bike side and it is back to stock. The ground wire (black) I just used a standard spade lugs (male and female) to make the connection from the extension wire to the module black wire.

Here's a picture of the module fully wired to the tail lamp assembly, and then a closer look at the wiring connections. Note the module yellow wire is disconnected to show how the molex pins are prepared. After connecting the molex pins I gave them each a wrap of electrical tape to help keep out moisture and keep them from sliding apart, though the friction is probably good enough.

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After reinstalling the tail lamp assembly the module and mode switch were pulled out and under the rear seat area for easy access.

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Now to the important part: How does it work?

Well it works pretty much exactly as advertised. There are a whole bunch of modes with different flash rates and delays that can be selected using the switch. What I found is that all but the slowest flash rate is unusable when using incandescent bulbs in the tail light. Anything faster and the latency of the incandescent bulbs means that the bulb will not reach full brightness before the flasher turns the bulb off again. This means that during the flashing interval the brake light will never reach full brightness. Obviously, that will have exactly the opposite to the intended effect of getting drivers attention.

At the slowest flash rate the bulbs seem to reach full intensity and the flashing should be somewhat attention getting. The below video is the slowest flashing, 5 flashes before steady mode, with no delay enabled. In the video it appears that the flashes are not equal in length or brightness. That is just an artifact of the video compression. The flashes are equal and all reach the same intensity.

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But, the effect is not quite as eye catching and attention getting as what I was hoping for. It is only the equivalent of flashing the lights by cycling the brake lever. So, now it's on to phase II, 1157 equivalent LED upgrade for the brake lamps. The quicker turn-on time of LEDs should allow me to run a faster strobe rate, which should give the affect I'm looking for.

[note] Since I have used this thread for documenting my install, I have also edited the thread title to reflect it.

 
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I am going to try these first: Clicky then scroll down to Matrix II 32 LED bulbs

But then, if those don't work out I will be skipping the hyperlights and going with these as the final Phase: Friggen bright SWPS LEDs

The reason to pick those over the Whelen super brights is the SWPS lights have a "low intensity" mode they can switched into at night. I'd probably rig them up with a manual on/off switch for group rides too.

 
Wow. I just installed my 2nd Universal Brake light flasher (I bought 2) on my Triumph Trophy.

It seriously took all of 20 minutes to put in from start to finish. Triumph has separate spade lug connections for the tail light, brake light and common ground, right out in the open, in the tail right under the seat. Crimped on a couple of heat shrinkable connectors, soldered in the same momentary switch that I used on the other one for the programming. Plug and play baby. :yahoo:

Damn, why did the FJR have to be so hard...? :blink:

 
Thanks for the write-up. Very nice. I am a little confused however. You tapped into the yellow wire to power your flasher unit. From my reading when I hooked up my fuzeblock I thought it was the blue wire that powered the tail lights. Is there a difference between the Gen I and Gen II? Or is it that the blue wire powers the tail light and the yellow wire switches between tail light and brake like and the flasher unit needs to be hooked into the brake power?

 
Thanks for the write-up. Very nice. I am a little confused however. You tapped into the yellow wire to power your flasher unit. From my reading when I hooked up my fuzeblock I thought it was the blue wire that powered the tail lights. Is there a difference between the Gen I and Gen II? Or is it that the blue wire powers the tail light and the yellow wire switches between tail light and brake like and the flasher unit needs to be hooked into the brake power?
You are correct. The blue wire is the tail light (always on) and that is useful to trigger a 12V power relay. The yellow is the BRAKE light, which is what you want to flash. It only comes on when you depress the brakes... ;)

 
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Edited to correct: NEVER MIND, Fred answered the question while I was making construction plans with our building owner.

There is a difference in wire color between Gen I and a Gen II because the Gen II uses a brake light relay. On the Gen II the blue wire powers the running tail light filaments and the yellow wire is the switched power to the brake filaments.

 
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Edited to correct: NEVER MIND, Fred answered the question while I was making construction plans with our building owner.
There is a difference in wire color between Gen I and a Gen II because the Gen II uses a brake light relay. On the Gen II the blue/red wire powers the running tail light filaments and the yellow/green wire is the switched power to the brake filaments.
Phicst!! ;)

 
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