Jacket idea

[rddiehl]

terrible idea in my book, unless you intend to keep you jacket on at all times. it is kinda like a woman carrying her gun in a purse, which may be set down at time, which means gun is not in her possession. Same thing would go for the jacket if you stop someplace, you take it off and then gun is no longer on your person. I just carry my Glock in a good in the waist band holster and I don't have to worry about it. I carry mine in a MTAC from the holster maker Comp-Tac.

 

[Braenen]

You may want to consider using a modular system. Galco has a large number of holsters available for their shoulder holster systems and they all use a buckle attachment configuration. If you were to add in straps to the jacket that would then match the buckle locations for the holster, you could simply attach the appropriate holster. If you decided to use an alternate weapon or changed your main carry gun, just switch out with the correct leather.

Galco also offers tiedown straps that attach to the snaps on the holster. It would be trivial to add an additional strap to the jacket for this purpose.

Galco Holsters

 

[FJR_pig]

Good feedback so far, thanks. Must say I'm surprised at how adamant the nay-sayers are, though. Not sure they grasped what I'm trying to accomplish here.

This idea may not go anywhere, just an idea right now.

Can't help but think that I could have used the jacket design a couple times, certainly once for sure that I remember. I was out late with my girlfriend several years ago down in Santa Ana, California. We decided to step out into the alley for a little and were just getting busy when some skinny ass Marine steps in to the alley about 10' from me and starts yelling at us with a pistol. I got the hell out of there.

 

[Toecutter]

Wayne Boyer of Cycleport has equipped many an LEO with his gear. He might have some good ideas.

 

[jekirby]

Wayne Boyer of Cycleport has equipped many an LEO with his gear. He might have some good ideas.

Yeah, I didn't think about that. His business is basically sustained by the law enforcement industry. Good call.

 

[jekirby]

Good feedback so far, thanks. Must say I'm surprised at how adamant the nay-sayers are, though. Not sure they grasped what I'm trying to accomplish here.
This idea may not go anywhere, just an idea right now.

Can't help but think that I could have used the jacket design a couple times, certainly once for sure that I remember. I was out late with my girlfriend several years ago down in Santa Ana, California. We decided to step out into the alley for a little and were just getting busy when some skinny ass Marine steps in to the alley about 10' from me and starts yelling at us with a pistol. I got the hell out of there.

I would say, design your jacket abound your needs and then get feed back. At this stage, you could debate until you are blue in the face. Offer up something and then see if it has mass appeal. I think most folks warm up pretty fast to innovation when they have no proconceptions. I am not kidding, but I have understood from many folks that Massad Ayoob is a very aproachable fellow and he may offer some insight. You can access him from one of a few websights, but one of the less formal is for the ProArms podcast. Some of the others on the show may could help. Another source for sources may be Tom Gresham. I have never had Tom not return an email, almost immediatly. [email protected] or www.guntalk.com. Any one of these pros may tell you that you are barking up the wrong tree or you may strike paydirt. You could also shoot off an email to gunsite.com or thunderranchinc.com.

As a side note to the folks who may not understand (please let's not turn this into a political debate) the desire to carry: think about a personal weapon as a seatbelt or a fire extinguisher. Medics, fire fighters and police officers all do a fantastic job, but they are not the first responders..you are/may be. You wear you seat belt...just in case. You keep a fire extinguisher.....just in case. You may choose to carry a gun just in case. I would say that folks that carry a firearm are probibly the most responsible, polite upstanding, etc folks you could ever come accross. Also, there are classes, training, background checks and other hoops to complete to permit you to carry concealed. Any yahoo may not carry concealed...you must prove to be the cream o' the crop. Yes, some cracks in the system have been found, but for the most part it is sound. Besided, if they are concealing correctly, you may never know that the person sitting beside you in the restraunt is armed.

Sorry pig.

 

[Geezer]

I like the idea of being able to carry inside my jacket. The problem is, as already pointed out by Braenen, each gun requires a unique holster that fits just right to make it easy and fast to get to and also secure when not needed.

On top of that, it took me a long time to find just the right jacket . One that fit well and suits my needs. As you can see from reading this forum, individual preferences range from heavy leather to mesh, and lots in between. Some want a waterproof shell while others like a waterproof liner and others don't worry about waterproof. You get the idea.

Now if you make something just like my AST jacket, in HiViz yellow, that fits my Kahr PM9, I just might buy one. B)

And for those who don't get it, "When seconds count, the police are just minutes away."

 

[650cent]

Most small, easy to conceal pistols can be used in a pocket holster bought from many manufacturers. I carry a Ruger LCP in a front pocket holster like the DeSantis Superfly. This type of holster will easily transfer from pant front pocket to jacket breast pocket, as long as the jacket pocket is shaped similar. For me the pocket should be on the left side, sort of a cross draw, but that might not be best for lefties.

Bill

 

[ponyfool]

Jason, I have a a paddle holster that I use to carry when I ride like this:

This eliminates the need for a belt, works with my riding pants, and allows quick access if needed. In addition, if I take my jacket off, I still have access to it.

Thus, I would recommend you make a jacket that covers both sides of the hip in all riding positions, possibly with padding to soften the blow if there were a get off.

More importantly, with the weather in the NW, I want a REAL multi-purpose jacket. I want a warm weather jacket that has excellent ventilation, but has the ability to quickly, and easily convert to a warm weather rain jacket. But I want the jacket to be waterproof on the EXTERIOR. I can't stand these jackets that you have to don an inner liner that allows water to penetrate the entire jacket to the liner which is touching your skin. So, perhaps a Watershed jacket with concealable protection that can put pulled into place if you get stuck in the rain.

Just my .02

 

[bikerskier]

I keep wondering about the intent / definition of concealed carry. If the weapon is on your belt or shoulder holster, and you are wearing a jacket, it is concealed. If you go into a restaurant and hang your jacket on the back of your chair, your weapon is no longer concealed and I don't think that is kosher. If it is mostly concealed in a holster, does that meet the requirements?

 

[Geezer]

I keep wondering about the intent / definition of concealed carry. If the weapon is on your belt or shoulder holster, and you are wearing a jacket, it is concealed. If you go into a restaurant and hang your jacket on the back of your chair, your weapon is no longer concealed and I don't think that is kosher. If it is mostly concealed in a holster, does that meet the requirements?

I think it depends on jurisdiction. Some places allow open carry and others call it brandishing if someone complains that they saw your gun. In any case, it can be concealed in a pocket or behind a flap and still be easy to draw.

FWIW, it's not a weapon unless it is used as a weapon; same as a knife or baseball bat.

 

[jwhite518]

You may want to consider using a modular system. Galco has a large number of holsters available for their shoulder holster systems and they all use a buckle attachment configuration. If you were to add in straps to the jacket that would then match the buckle locations for the holster, you could simply attach the appropriate holster. If you decided to use an alternate weapon or changed your main carry gun, just switch out with the correct leather.

That buckle system looks pretty cool. I know of a really great motorcycle seamstress who could probably sew the connectors to your jacket if you want to go that way.

Great stories, EV. When did you weigh that little?

 

[Rolavine]

In your fantasies, exactly what happens that warrants having a readily-accessible gun, or especially two guns, or extra magazines? Just curious. Wish I had as active an imagination as you guys do.

What you never saw 'Easy Rider'?

Suppose some mouse bearing decon pellets gives you a severe dissin trying to move into your air filter while your ridin'!

Perhaps your find yourself, without intention wearing one gangs colors in another gangs part of town?

Suppose your out for a ride when you get a summons to do a drive by?

Suppose your out and find you have to protect Pam Anderson's virtue from Borat?

Suppose Mars Attacks and you need to steal a yodeling cd from the mall in order to stop Hollywood from making a sequel?

OK, Actually I don't carry a gun on my bike, if I did I'm sure I'd be locked up by now because in this draconian antidarwinian nightmare of America, a middle class guy like me just can't get away with shooting bad drivers on the 'good of all Mankind' defense.

 

[Jeff Q]

The best concealed carry holster made IMHO is the Comptac MTAC. Trust me when I say I have tried ALLOT of them. It is comfortable and conceals nicely. I never ride with out it.

https://www.comp-tac.com/catalog/product_in...;products_id=95

 

[rddiehl]

The best concealed carry holster made IMHO is the Comptac MTAC. Trust me when I say I have tried ALLOT of them. It is comfortable and conceals nicely. I never ride with out it.
https://www.comp-tac.com/catalog/product_in...;products_id=95

You and me both brother. That is my current and by far the best holster I have ever owned.

 

[user 213]

Great stories, EV. When did you weigh that little?

Up to about 1991, when I went on graveyard shift, which lasted about 14 years. I'm about 100 lbs over that now, and am working on it a bit. Being hungry all the time sucks. Though not as much as being hungry because you can't afford food. Thankfully I still have a job.

 

[FJR_pig]

Just my .02

Sorry Scottie, you have no credibility here. You recently tried to sell your bike. :lol:

 

[fjrdc]

Check out Magills.com they have a sew-in holster/pocket for CCW.

 

[OGRE]

If you can make the jacket in xxl TALL in any color other than black, I'd buy it holster or not :dribble: Most jacket companies think tall guys like black and in SC in the summer its intolerable.

 

[wellsj]

I asked a similar question in the past but was more on what holster to use. Look here for some interesting comments and ideas.