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James Burleigh

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Yesterday was my first ride on a pure sport bike, and what a kick in the pants! :yahoo:

Getting on it for the first time to pull out of the driveway was challenging. "Where in the hell are the pegs?! :blink: Do my legs even bend that far up?" But I figured it out and soon got comfortable.

I rode out to Marin County near the coast to meet a couple of buddies for breakfast. Then we headed out to Hwy 1. Jim took the lead on his K1200RS, then me, then Kurt on his new Kawi Concours (pre-14), which he bought after receiving all those comments from FJR riders on this forum.

I soon became fairly comfortable in getting the feel of the controls, and quickened my pace. What I realized as I was flying through the Hwy 1 twisties along the coast, decelerating into the corners, shifting my body inside the center line before leaning, flicking the bike over and leaning way in, keeping head up and looking all the way through the turn, then rolling on the accelerator on exit as the bike straightens up--what I realized was that THIS is what they are talking about regarding cornering technique on a motorcycle. It's all about this kind of motorcycle. On larger bikes it makes a difference; but to really FEEL the difference on control and handling, and speed, it takes a sport bike. On this light, nimble, smooth, state-of-the-art, high-lean-over-clearance sport bike, all the theory and talk and training came together and made sense; you can feel, you can experience, the difference rider input and ergonomics can make. And I wasn't trying to go fast through the curves (that just comes with the nature of the bike, knowledge of cornering theory, and practice); I was trying to be smooth.

I watched Jim in front of me, moving smartly through the curves, but he was much more leaned over than I was. With that "tiny" little bike I was on, I could go around those same curves with the bike practically vertical, 'cause I was leaned way off with my eyeline pretty much at the level of the grips, and pushing the bike upright--meaning I had a lot more clearance, traction, and speed opportunity than he had (or that I explored--although it was mostly sunny, the roads were still damp in places).

Here are some other observations:

  • The bike's small for me--although I got accustomed to it, I think a ZX-14 or K1200R is the bike for me. :rolleyes:
  • When going real slow and turning, beware the handlebar not turning all the way because your hand hits the tank.
  • My neck was sore all day from having to pinch upward.
  • It stops on a dime, which further lends confidence to corner approach.
  • It felt heavier in the front than my FJR, meaning that it took more effort to change direction. It didn't just flik over.
  • Knowing I had a lot of lean-over clearance gave me more confidence in the curves.
  • I got a lot of head buffeting, and checking my blind spot meant further violent buffeting.
  • Although it redlines at 11.5, I never got past about 7K.
  • The bike will accelerate, and just keep pulling, in all gears.
  • OK, I say all gears, but I never got out of third; coulda stayed in second all day.
  • With the mirrors I could not see directly behind me or my blind spots (no blind spot mirrors), which was nerve-wracking.
  • I never lightened the front tire, since I never got close to the redline or really throttled that goose.
  • Curiously, and probably because I didn't flirt with higher RPMs, I felt it didn't accelerate as quick as my FJR.
  • It's easier to bring this bike to a smooth full stop that the Feej, on which I often feel like I'm bobbling when I pull up to a stop light. Probably a weight and size factor.
  • I want one.
JB

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Glad you had fun.

Sporty bikes are a blast.... for a short distance. I went to Sport Touring due to nasty back, shoulder, etc, aches.

 
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Guess I knew we'd hear that you didn't fit very well on it. :lol:

You've notice that there are no MotoGP riders built like you? Glad you had fun.

 
:yahoo: You had a fun day and actually learned a few things! :yahoo:

Y'know, you might also look into an FZ-1 for fun day rides. The seating position is a bit more relaxed but it should have more cornering clearance to go with the lighter weight than an FJR.

It'll be an interesting poll when you get ready to shop. ;)

 
I love my sport bikes and if you think that older CBR1000RR is nimble you should try a 08 or newer... as for the power you never felt what it could do keeping it under 7000rpm. Looks like you had fun, Winter sucks in this part of the country.

 
I bought an 08 Honda CBR1000RR when it first came out. I am also to big for it but with rearsets, I can at least make it adjustable. The next time you go out on it try these couple things. They will also work on the FJR. Squeeze the tank with your knees and arch your back slightly, not much, just a bit. All the pressure is relieved from your wrists and your back will not bother you in this position. It also work when on my FJR when I get tired. I just need to do it all the time so I will not get tired. Enjoy it. I can fully understand why you want one. They are great for weekday evening riding but weekend 3-400 mile days are meant for the FJR.

 
Y'know, you might also look into an FZ-1 for fun day rides. The seating position is a bit more relaxed but it should have more cornering clearance to go with the lighter weight than an FJR.
Great call MM2! I forgot how thoroughly pissed off I was the first time I sat on an FZ1. 20 fookin' years on sport bikes and 3 years or so after I decide I'm too fat and lazy to do an all-day push-up, "they" finally come out with a sport bike that I could see the gauges on while in riding position.

So, if you get one, Hans -

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If Calvin doesn't do it for you, the alternative is to do lunch, where you conveniently unfortunately have a reaction similar to DCarver with his Denny's burger and I'll need to ride your FZ home for you... Where did I leave that vial of Salmonella? Chocolate ExLax is sooo 1980s...

Ah, never mind - I can go fast enough on the FJR.

 
Hell Hans, you barely got into the power at 7k. Take it out and flog it to redline, then you'll either crap your pants and give up riding, or go buy one :D

 
Hell Hans, you barely got into the power at 7k. Take it out and flog it to redline, then you'll either crap your pants and give up riding, or go buy one :D
Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.... So good to see you. I was just thinking about you today and how much I miss you, and whether I was gonna have to ride all the way down there to say howdy.

You know, I was afraid of that machine and what it would do if I pushed those RPMs up there. Give me time. Give me time....

 
Uh Oh! JB discovered A "real" preformance motorcycle!

Personally, I hope you hang with us here JB....but, I have always "suspected" that you were headed for what you just experienced! Glad I got ALL o' DAT outa my system, long ago!

Ask Kurt how it was on the CI Connie, I bet he had a good time on your ride as well!

But you, you "thrive on speed".

best to you my friend...remember, "rubber side down=shiney side up!"

I go there (ride fast and I can be Nuckin' Futz), but after a ride is over, I really want to (need to) get home.

best,

 
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[*]The bike's small for me--although I got accustomed to it, I think a ZX-14 or K1200R is the bike for me. :rolleyes:
They're not going to turn like this thing. It's just not the same.

[*]When going real slow and turning, beware the handlebar not turning all the way because your hand hits the tank.
So. Annoying. The second-closest I've come to wrecking a friend's bike was a CBR-954 when I was turning in the parking lot *returning* from riding it because the bars stopped before I expected them to!

[*]My neck was sore all day from having to pinch upward.
You get used to this. :)

[*]I got a lot of head buffeting, and checking my blind spot meant further violent buffeting.
Really? I get horrid buffeting on my brother's FJR. I much prefer my helmet being in clean air and the wash off the windscreen hitting my chest and shoulders.

[*]Although it redlines at 11.5, I never got past about 7K.
Bummer. :)

[*]With the mirrors I could not see directly behind me or my blind spots (no blind spot mirrors), which was nerve-wracking.
I don't get this problem. Everyone complains about "seeing nothing but my elbows" on sport bikes, but I've found it to be the best way to place my mirrors. If I need to see behind me I move my left elbow out a little bit and lean my head slightly left. Other than that I have the mirrors set to see what's over my shoulder in the lane to the side; the most I have to do is lean forward just a bit to change the angle to the mirror. I mean, really, how often do you need to know what's directly behind you when you're moving? Whatever's back there, fix it with the throttle. :)

[*]It's easier to bring this bike to a smooth full stop that the Feej, on which I often feel like I'm bobbling when I pull up to a stop light. Probably a weight and size factor.
Change your fork oil. :)

 
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Yesterday was my first ride on a pure sport bike, and what a kick in the pants! :yahoo: I rode out to Marin County near the coast to meet a couple of buddies for breakfast. Then we headed out to Hwy 1.

I soon became fairly comfortable in getting the feel of the controls, and quickened my pace. What I realized as I was flying through the Hwy 1 twisties along the coast, decelerating into the corners, shifting my body inside the center line before leaning, flicking the bike over and leaning way in, keeping head up and looking all the way through the turn, then rolling on the accelerator on exit as the bike straightens up--what I realized was that THIS is what they are talking about regarding cornering technique on a motorcycle. It's all about this kind of motorcycle. On larger bikes it makes a difference; but to really FEEL the difference on control and handling, and speed, it takes a sport bike. On this light, nimble, smooth, state-of-the-art, high-lean-over-clearance sport bike, all the theory and talk and training came together and made sense; you can feel, you can experience, the difference rider input and ergonomics can make. And I wasn't trying to go fast through the curves (that just comes with the nature of the bike, knowledge of cornering theory, and practice); I was trying to be smooth.
Good for you...

That's just how it should be -- "Now I know what you're talking about." I maintain that that experience (what you just observed) is of great benefit (whether or not you continue to be a sport-bike rider). A modern sport-bike is "distilled motorcycling" and great at all the necessary road-craft requirements.

For those who 'start at the top' or soon 'graduate to a big-bike', the experience of a motorcycle that's designed to enhance those skill sets necessary for optimum operation is often missed. Once learned/experienced, those skills transfer to future motorcycling -- whatever it be.

Sport-bikes are great -- Mmmm... :)

 
Hell Hans, you barely got into the power at 7k. Take it out and flog it to redline, then you'll either crap your pants and give up riding, or go buy one :D
Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.... So good to see you. I was just thinking about you today and how much I miss you, and whether I was gonna have to ride all the way down there to say howdy.

You know, I was afraid of that machine and what it would do if I pushed those RPMs up there. Give me time. Give me time....
I'm still here, I just don't bother to post up very often anymore.

 
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