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mech 1 twa

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Whats the difference between Jeep and Junk. 3 letters and the price$$$

 
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There are several good versions of what F.O.R.D. really means, but I recently found out what J.E.E.P. means.

. . . Just Empty Every Pocket.
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Cheers,

Infrared

 
I had three. Ran all from brand new from the dealer to over 100K. Except for one warranteed u joint replacement, never had a problem out of any of them. Passed the last one down to my oldest son. It ended up with my nephew. I don't know where it is now. I have no idea how 2016 jeeps are. But the YJ's and TJ's were most excellent.

 
I had a '97 Grand Cherokee for a few yrs. I still say it was the nicest vehicle I've ever owned, no problems at all. It just wasn't a pickup truck and using a trailer was something I thought I could live with at purchase time but decided against later.

 
Never owned a Jeep but I did ask a tow truck driver once (who had my Chevy Silverado on his bed) what vehicles did he pick up most often. His answer: "Almost every day I pick up a Jeep or two. Dodge Caravan's are a close second." Granted, this was about 6 years ago. Jeep could have improved some since then.

 
Year 1985, Brampton, Ontario .... guess who built the very first YJ at AMC/Jeep/Renault? By hand. Yep, me (and a small team) on a 3D layout plate. The bare body-in-white (no paint) weighed around 250 lbs. (no doors/tailgate). We built 21 of them by hand as pilot engineering vehicles. Only one ever saw licence plates. They have come a long way since then......

 
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Bought my wife a Jeep Wrangler Sahara - 3.6L back in 2013

Fantastic rig. I doubt we will ever go without one again. We caught the Jeep fever.

Canadian FJR

 
So mech1twa, what prompts this mini-tirade? Is it a joke as the posted-in section describes or is it the beginnings of a whine fest? Seems many of us out here are wonderfully satisfied with our jeeps.

 
Its both I assist used car techs on diag and problems. Jeep by far some of the worst vehicles I've seen. 25k ball joints, tie rods worn beyond safe limits.

CVT trans. issues and rusted it through rockers, floors after 6-7 years.

I drove a 2007 Grand Cherokee that shook so hard I had to pull over to see if the wheels were falling off. 1 mile later it was gone, something in the drive line.

Many go wholesale which means dealer auctions it rather than repair. 30k vehicle 7 years later not worth much.

Enjoy your Jeep.

 
I am not a fan of CVTs....great for snowmobiles and ATVs....cars not so much....I know many techs who rue the CVTs in the Nissans with the same disdain...

 
I've sort of gotten used to having a truck. But I'd buy a jeep again in a heartbeat. I had a dodge Daytona and a Durango. Both required replacement of about everything but the body and the windows (and the Durango had a factory defect that affected one of the windows). Both were nightmares. I get how a bad experience can sour you.

 
Had a YJ Wrangler (square headlights) for almost 10 years in Brandon, FL. Fabulous vehicle, though it was very simple: no A/C, no radio (put one in myself, with DIY antenna), and manual transmission.

Ran it for 100,000 miles with only a "bikini top" through mud, water, sand, jumping curbs in the city, and having all the neighborhood kids treat it like a jungle gym when I left it parked in the driveway. It's too rough a ride for my 60-year-old body, so I now have an Outback that can do almost everything the Wrangler could do.

All that said, I wouldn't buy myself a new-model Jeep -- even using your money. They just don't seem to be as tough.

 
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We had a '94 and a '98 Grand Cherokee, both ran beyond 175K miles.

Each was used for towing monthly.

Each required water pumps replaced and tranny rebuilds beyond 100K,

and various other peripherals.

They seemed pretty good at the time.

Now driving an '06 Toyota 4Runner from new to now at 220K miles.

All it has needed is two front wheel bearings and the timing belt service.

The interior still looks great. Exterior paint looks good.

Just head and shoulders above every other vehicle in my life.

(Yes, fluids were changed.)

 
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