Manual Cam Chain Adjuster

[Bugnatr]

Thanks! Mine was changed at 10K miles when I was teaching the service mgr. it was the tick. I was right.

With 48k since the new CCT was put in I will have to start to pay closer attn to engine noise. Scary **** that CCT.

 

[Toecutter]

I got a call today and the gentleman said they did not have anything, however, if I let them keep it they will build one for the FJR1300.

B-b-b-but what about the liability? Did you tell him we're all sue-happy?

Three weeks, huh? Where have I heard that before? Oh yeah, crash bars!

I won't be pulling my old one just yet....

Seriously though, :clapping:

Can't wait to slay that demon....

 

[Brodie]

...three weeks, huh? Where have I heard that before? Oh yeah, crash bars!
I won't be pulling my old one just yet....

Come on Bob, 3 weeks isn't that long.

It will have been about 4 weeks when I finally get my bike back on the road.

Them Elk sure do the damage!
:angry:

Brodie

 

[Fred W]

I have some news on the manual cam chain tensioner front...
I sent my used tensioner in to American Performance Engineering ( APE ) to see if they make a manual tensioner that fits our bikes. I got a call today and the gentleman said they did not have anything, however, if I let them keep it they will build one for the FJR1300. I will get the first one.

He said it should be through their shop in about 2 or 3 weeks.




That's progress folks!


Brodie

Yes, it's a good news / bad news kind'a thing: The good news is they will make something up for us, so we will have a ready made option to use.

The bad news is they didn't already have something that fits, which we would then have been able to cross-reference to another make/model of bike and look for alternate automatic tensioners. Then again, I shouldn't have expected that line of reasoning to work out since any bikes with the (good) ratcheting type of tensioners probably wouldn't need manual CCTs designed for them.

Oh well... the hunt goes on.

There you go. All APE tensioners are the same price, $51.65. For that kind of change why mess with DIY?

Well, you already have the old CCT. Drill and tap it, install a bolt, thread a locknut (or two if you're anal) and weld another nut on the end, you'll have essentially the same thing and save $50 (plus shipping)

 

[radman]

The XS Yamaha's would adjust while the motor ran. A plunger would move in and out as chain slack moved it. When properly adjusted, the plunger mostly stayed flush with the housing. I like the spring idea-tension without locking, allowing some movement in chain slack without risking inadequate tension.

Not quite sure the plunger moves in and out as the chain slacken....

From the XS11 website...

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Adjusting the Cam Chain Tension

An out-of-adjustment cam chain can cause the bike to run poorly andvibrate. To adjust the tension, locate the tensioner on the front of the engine between cylinders 2 and 3 - it's that little do-hickey protruding from the cylinders with a bolt sticking out the left side. Remove the engine case cover over the timing plates and use a wrench to manually rotate (clockwise) the engine until the timing pointer aligns with the "C" on the timing plate. Then loosen the locknut on the cam chain tensioner, loosen the bolt, then retighten the bolt and then the locknut (specified torque is only about 5 ft/lbs so don't overtighten), and replace the case cover. That's it.

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So it appears to me that the plunger is spring loaded and once you have the timing point aligned with the "C" you loosened the locknut and let the plunger move in on it's own until it bottomed on the guide inside the motor.

Then retighen the locking nut...

The plunger can't move because of the locking nut.... and the tightness of the bolt on the plunger shaft.

XS650

 

[JuiceMcGoose]

There you go. All APE tensioners are the same price, $51.65. For that kind of change why mess with DIY?

It gives you a sense of accomplishment?

What?

 

[Toecutter]

I would totally pop the cans off and ride that thing around town until the cops stopped me.

Them Elk sure do the damage!

Not to mention the resulting sideways toss down the asphalt....

You staying with Cerulean?

 

[RadioHowie]

There you go. All APE tensioners are the same price, $51.65. For that kind of change why mess with DIY?

It gives you a sense of accomplishment?

What?

If I have to 'splain it, you won't unnerstanz.

 

[JuiceMcGoose]

There you go. All APE tensioners are the same price, $51.65. For that kind of change why mess with DIY?

It gives you a sense of accomplishment?

What?

If I have to 'splain it, you won't unnerstanz.

Now I get it. After reading about Toecutter's wisdom I was getting defensive.

 

[johnny80s]

Put me down for number 3.

 

[manwhoride]

Okay, someone needs to step up to the plate and take advantage of all the smarts going around on the forum and write a “real” service manual with all the upgrades and stuff we (y’all) have found to either contradict, or otherwise really fix problems we encounter on a daily basis. Attempting to twist our own wrenches seems the only way we get competent results on a bike that seemingly the local stealers (Service Departments) haven’t a clue about. Here is an opportunity to tap into the very core of what made this country what it used to be. Capitalism, free enterprise, entrepreneurship!!!

Nuff said! The manwhore has speaked... :blink:

 

[RadioHowie]

Okay, someone needs to step up to the plate and take advantage of all the smarts going around on the forum and write a “real” service manual with all the upgrades and stuff we (y’all) have found to either contradict, or otherwise really fix problems we encounter on a daily basis. Attempting to twist our own wrenches seems the only way we get competent results on a bike that seemingly the local stealers (Service Departments) haven’t a clue about. Here is an opportunity to tap into the very core of what made this country what it used to be. Capitalism, free enterprise, entrepreneurship!!! Nuff said! The manwhore has speaked... :blink:

I like your thinking, and would like to add to it/modify it just a touch.

I think there should be a "How To" subforum that only contains pictorial "How To" posts. Then, if someone needs to R&R their CCT, they can go right to the "How To" forum and find it immediately, rather than doing a search for "CCT Removal" and coming up with 72 disparate posts, some with and some without pics.

Many important "How To" posts are currently available but are scattered all over the forum, and not always easy to find.

I'm not suggesting reinventing the wheel....just organizing some of the important, must-have posts into one easy to scan subforum.

All it would take would be the actual creation of the sub forum, with links pointing to already existant posts in other threads, or the moving of those pertinent threads to the new sub forum. As I said, many links are already in place in the FAQ section, but further organization would essentially create an "On Line" version of what you describe.

Just my $.02.

'Howie

ps: If an admin happens along this post and is looking for a volunteer to compile the info, I'm up for it.

 

[BwanaDik]

'Howie
ps: If an admin happens along this post and is looking for a volunteer to compile the info, I'm up for it.

Ya got nothin' else to do, right?

 

[user 213]

I think there should be a "How To" subforum that only contains pictorial "How To" posts.

<cough> FJRTECH

<cough> FJR1300.INFO

Anyone documenting a task that feels it's worthy of helping others, only needs to forward it to one of the two above sites to have it placed where any FJR owner can easily find it and use that data.

IOW - Don't re-invent the wheel guys.

Oh, and Brodie - stop being such a wuss! Duct tape a lawnmower tank to that bike and go for a ride.

 

[BwanaDik]

I think there should be a "How To" subforum that only contains pictorial "How To" posts.

<cough> FJRTECH

<cough> FJR1300.INFO

Anyone documenting a task that feels it's worthy of helping others, only needs to forward it to one of the two above sites to have it placed where any FJR owner can easily find it and use that data.

IOW - Don't re-invent the wheel guys.

Oh, and Brodie - stop being such a wuss! Duct tape a lawnmower tank to that bike and go for a ride.

Thanks. I knew about these sites but didn't realize they could be updated if you sent in a post. The fjr1300info was last updated in Dec 2008 but there have been a zillion "installs" here since then. Warchilds site has copyright 2009 but wonder when the last update was?

 

[radman]

Thanks. I knew about these sites but didn't realize they could be updated if you sent in a post. The fjr1300info was last updated in Dec 2008 but there have been a zillion "installs" here since then. Warchilds site has copyright 2009 but wonder when the last update was?

'62. Look for his groundbreaking article "Transistors and their Motorcycle Application Possibilities"

 

[Zorlac]

"ps: If an admin happens along this post and is looking for a volunteer to compile the info, I'm up for it."

I hope you wouldn't edit out all the smartass replies and only leave usable factual material.

It is a good idea though!

 

[Fred W]

Thanks. I knew about these sites but didn't realize they could be updated if you sent in a post. The fjr1300info was last updated in Dec 2008 but there have been a zillion "installs" here since then. Warchilds site has copyright 2009 but wonder when the last update was?

'62. Look for his groundbreaking article "Transistors and their Motorcycle Application Possibilities"

Available in mimeographed copies only...

 

[RadioHowie]

Thanks. I knew about these sites but didn't realize they could be updated if you sent in a post. The fjr1300info was last updated in Dec 2008 but there have been a zillion "installs" here since then. Warchilds site has copyright 2009 but wonder when the last update was?

'62. Look for his groundbreaking article "Transistors and their Motorcycle Application Possibilities"

Available in mimeographed copies only...

...with translations from Sanskrit. :lol:

 

[user 213]

Thanks. I knew about these sites but didn't realize they could be updated if you sent in a post. The fjr1300info was last updated in Dec 2008 but there have been a zillion "installs" here since then. Warchilds site has copyright 2009 but wonder when the last update was?

The only problem is people haven't been sending them in to those sites. The forum is great, but sometimes searching through and wading through all the poo to find the pearls can be tedious. Those sites would have more current info and more of it if we submitted it to them. HMarc and Warchild do update and add material. WC's a tad busy right now, but a good photo rich tech write up practically gives him wood.