Sorry. I do not see how a question about whether I ride a motorcycle is in my best health interest. That is ludicrous at best, but more likely insidious.
My Orwellian Doctor's Visit
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Sorry. I do not see how a question about whether I ride a motorcycle is in my best health interest. That is ludicrous at best, but more likely insidious.
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That's cause you're in OR, Ray. If I lived there, I'd have 3 guns that I can't get here. One day.
Fred: sounds like all of this has to do with the *** reaming. The minion apparently enjoyed it. Or maybe the doc did. They're just trying to get you to come back in for more ***. Being offered drugs as enticement surely isn't anything new in that kind of effort.
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happyPuppy
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What frustrates me is when the vitals are done by a C.N.A. vs a Nurse or a doc, and they do not know even how to do simple things. They take your BP with your arm dangling vs level with your heart, or worse don't even support it and you tense your arm , and gee the readings are different! The doc asks me after the usual 20 questions , "Still riding your motorcycle?" I just say yep! He reminds me they are dangerous , I agree and he seems happy with that.
RsvlFeej
RsvlFeej
After I failed my hearing test, doc asks, "Guns, motorcycles, or loud music?" I replied, "Yep."
Nothing written down that I saw and I didn't think it a particularly insidious line of questioning...
That possible reason for the gun question aside, I'm right there with the rest of you on hating the Orwellian aspects of the computer age - maybe cross-referencing medical records does help catch a few stray diseases - but WTF happened to doctor/patient confidentiality?
Nothing written down that I saw and I didn't think it a particularly insidious line of questioning...
That possible reason for the gun question aside, I'm right there with the rest of you on hating the Orwellian aspects of the computer age - maybe cross-referencing medical records does help catch a few stray diseases - but WTF happened to doctor/patient confidentiality?
S76
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I don't blame you Fred. She was just generating business and could care less if it was at your expense.
Doctors are just like used car dealers. There are thousands of them out there. Some are jerks and some are good.
My doctor says my cholesterol is high.
Oh, yeah? How high?
250. LDL...HDL....bla...bla...bla...
OK, do you mind telling me who did the study to determine that 250 was too high? (I already knew)
The drug companies, he says. He knew I knew.
Doesn't that sound like a conflict of interest to you?
Well...uhm...practical standards need to be established...bla...bla..
I'll pass on that one, what else you got.
Doctors are not Gods and need to be questioned just like the service manager of a bike shop. No difference.
Doctors are just like used car dealers. There are thousands of them out there. Some are jerks and some are good.
My doctor says my cholesterol is high.
Oh, yeah? How high?
250. LDL...HDL....bla...bla...bla...
OK, do you mind telling me who did the study to determine that 250 was too high? (I already knew)
The drug companies, he says. He knew I knew.
Doesn't that sound like a conflict of interest to you?
Well...uhm...practical standards need to be established...bla...bla..
I'll pass on that one, what else you got.
Doctors are not Gods and need to be questioned just like the service manager of a bike shop. No difference.
Thanks for the replies.
My conclusion from all of this was that my (ex)doctor was strictly interested in the easy money. Looking back on the past few years I can see that has been the case all along. With my prior insurance coverage I only had a $15 co-pay for any office visits, so naturally I did not resist (what I knew even then to be) excessive number of revisits (3-4 per year) to follow up on "marginal" situations. I'm a relatively healthy guy, never had any major conditions. My BP has always been in the pre-hypertensive range and there has only been once or twice in 10 years that my total cholesterol has been slightly elevated, ratios always good.
Yes, conflicts of interest abound in the medical industry everywhere. Not just the physicians either. And none of them are in the patient's best interest. If there is one golden nugget that I have gleaned from this experience it is this, and the one I want to share: I am in charge of my own healthcare (from here on) and will not passively be bullied around or extorted by money grubbing healthcare workers. Perhaps more-so than anywhere else in our lives: Caveat emptor.
Now my dilemma is how does one find a primary care physician that is not in that category?
My conclusion from all of this was that my (ex)doctor was strictly interested in the easy money. Looking back on the past few years I can see that has been the case all along. With my prior insurance coverage I only had a $15 co-pay for any office visits, so naturally I did not resist (what I knew even then to be) excessive number of revisits (3-4 per year) to follow up on "marginal" situations. I'm a relatively healthy guy, never had any major conditions. My BP has always been in the pre-hypertensive range and there has only been once or twice in 10 years that my total cholesterol has been slightly elevated, ratios always good.
Yes, conflicts of interest abound in the medical industry everywhere. Not just the physicians either. And none of them are in the patient's best interest. If there is one golden nugget that I have gleaned from this experience it is this, and the one I want to share: I am in charge of my own healthcare (from here on) and will not passively be bullied around or extorted by money grubbing healthcare workers. Perhaps more-so than anywhere else in our lives: Caveat emptor.
Now my dilemma is how does one find a primary care physician that is not in that category?
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beemerdons
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+1, Gunny! Thanks Solo, you are not alone! "I am not as old as dirt, but I know the guy that is!"
08FJR4ME
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What the Numbers Mean
If your blood pressure is less than 120/80
140/90 and above
or
130/80 and above
AND
you have diabetes or chronic kidney disease2:
Thanks all
If your blood pressure is less than 120/80
- Your blood pressure is normal
- You're at risk for high blood pressure. Lifestyle modifications are important and should be recommended by your doctor or healthcare professional
140/90 and above
or
130/80 and above
AND
you have diabetes or chronic kidney disease2:
- Your blood pressure is high. Lifestyle modifications and high blood pressure medication are important and should be recommended by your doctor or healthcare professional
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old&slow
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Well ,, my doctor usually ask ,, what brand of bike I'm riding ,,, what kind of car I'm driving now,, etc.
then he tells me I should come in for my annual check up,,, which I haven't had for 3 to 5 yrs..
And that I could stand to loose a few pounds,,, which I usually tell him, I could probably loose
some weight if it wasn't for the food and the beer.. Which he doesn't think is funny ...
Then he ask me if I drink alcohol ? ,,,,, Ahhhhhhh yea ... "How much?" Ahhhh, probably a case or two a week.
Then he has to get his note pad out and figure how many calories that is.....
" You should drink more water ." Beer is made from water isn't it ??? (doesn't think that is funny either..)
I've been going to the same doctor for 35 + years,,, He hasn't changed a bit ,, Still in great shape, just a little grayer ,,
Me on the other hand ,,,, ??!! :dribble: Oh Well.....
He has never asked if I owned firearms ,,, But the real question should be,, How Many ???h34r:
then he tells me I should come in for my annual check up,,, which I haven't had for 3 to 5 yrs..
And that I could stand to loose a few pounds,,, which I usually tell him, I could probably loose
some weight if it wasn't for the food and the beer.. Which he doesn't think is funny ...
Then he ask me if I drink alcohol ? ,,,,, Ahhhhhhh yea ... "How much?" Ahhhh, probably a case or two a week.
Then he has to get his note pad out and figure how many calories that is.....
" You should drink more water ." Beer is made from water isn't it ???
(doesn't think that is funny either..)I've been going to the same doctor for 35 + years,,, He hasn't changed a bit ,, Still in great shape, just a little grayer ,,
Me on the other hand ,,,, ??!! :dribble: Oh Well.....
He has never asked if I owned firearms ,,, But the real question should be,, How Many ???
h34r: Crash Cash
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You guys need to switch doctors, and I know just the person...
About 12 years ago I got hit hard on the collarbone by a hailstone while riding around Asheville during the Honda Hoot on my RZ-350... it left a hard little crater that never went away, but never bothered me much until last weekend, when it decided to get all infected and swell up like a grape. Normally I head over to Centra-Care for things like this, but they suck, so I tried this new place called the "Mini-ER"
I'm sitting there in the room when this hawt green-eyed red-headed Irish goddess walked in the the room and introduced herself as "Dr. Kelly" :dribble:
Whoo. I felt better right away. She can ask me any questions she wants. I'm in love, I mean it this time! And I have to go back Sunday and Tuesday... DARN it all to heck!
About 12 years ago I got hit hard on the collarbone by a hailstone while riding around Asheville during the Honda Hoot on my RZ-350... it left a hard little crater that never went away, but never bothered me much until last weekend, when it decided to get all infected and swell up like a grape. Normally I head over to Centra-Care for things like this, but they suck, so I tried this new place called the "Mini-ER"
I'm sitting there in the room when this hawt green-eyed red-headed Irish goddess walked in the the room and introduced herself as "Dr. Kelly" :dribble:
Whoo. I felt better right away. She can ask me any questions she wants. I'm in love, I mean it this time! And I have to go back Sunday and Tuesday... DARN it all to heck!
Might be a bit inconvenient to drive 1700 miles for a doctor's visit... But what they heck.
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beemerdons
Certifiable Old Fart
"hawt green-eyed red-headed Irish goddess named Dr. Kelly"! Crash Cash, tell Miss Fenian Fox her Papa Chuy will be in her office at 0900 Monday. Only 2,125 miles to roll!
https://www.mapquest.com/maps?1c=Chandler&a...402&2v=CITY
Yeah, this is the kind'a doctor I'm lookin' for.
Someone that will take care of my serious medical condition. :dribble:
Whazzat doc? They call that priapism? Who knew?
Heh, heh...
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cota95
RI Beach Pop
That's right doc I've been a bad boy and I need to be punished...
Yeah, this is the kind'a doctor I'm lookin' for.
Someone that will take care of my serious medical condition. :dribble:
Whazzat doc? They call that priapism? Who knew?
Heh, heh...
HotRodZilla
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Yup...That didn't take long!
Yeah, this is the kind'a doctor I'm lookin' for.
Someone that will take care of my serious medical condition. :dribble:
Whazzat doc? They call that priapism? Who knew?
Heh, heh...
If I find me a doctor like that, I'm not telling you ********!
Crash Cash
Well-known member
I did actually think about it, but I think "I just wanna add you to my gallery of hawt medical babes" would have been answered with "Security to exam room 4, please!"
I noticed she didn't have a ring on either, but that's probably because of the frequent rubber glove usage. Oh, I have to go lie down now.
DE OPPRESSO LIBER
Official *******
Oh my god, Fred, really?! Wish I'd gotten in on this one earlier, but just found it!
As for finding a new doc? A no brainer. How to find one? Good luck!
My wife is an NP (Nurse Practitioner) who works in a primary care office with three other docs and one other NP. The friggin chief doctor comes to her for ******* questions which she should already know, the other NP is a raving *****, one of the docs is dumb as a stump and will order every ******* test under the sun just trying to figure out what is so plainly obvious that it gets missed, and the other one is one of those dike woolly mammoths of a Maine woman that provides warmth in the winter and shade in the summer!
I know my wife is a great NP ( I quiz her *** :lol: regularly looking for signs of ******** and she never misses a trick!) and she knows that way too many "routine follow up" ******** checks get done just for the money. Here in Mass where govt feels everyone deserves free healthcare, the state reimburses better than ANY insurance company. I know, I see them in the ER asking for a prescription for Tylenol so they don't have to pay for it because "they can't afford it" as all of their litter from all different fathers are holding happy meals in their fat, grubby little hands.
Every single patient I discharge from my ER is sent home with a copy to call their physician to arrange for follow-up in the next 1-2 days! No bullshitting, no matter how small of a thing, that's what they're told.
Good luck finding a good doc, there are some still left out there you just have to research to find 'em.
On second thought, screw the statin and come along for the chowder ride! It'll be worth it, scouts honor!
CJ
As for finding a new doc? A no brainer. How to find one? Good luck!
My wife is an NP (Nurse Practitioner) who works in a primary care office with three other docs and one other NP. The friggin chief doctor comes to her for ******* questions which she should already know, the other NP is a raving *****, one of the docs is dumb as a stump and will order every ******* test under the sun just trying to figure out what is so plainly obvious that it gets missed, and the other one is one of those dike woolly mammoths of a Maine woman that provides warmth in the winter and shade in the summer!
I know my wife is a great NP ( I quiz her *** :lol: regularly looking for signs of ******** and she never misses a trick!) and she knows that way too many "routine follow up" ******** checks get done just for the money. Here in Mass where govt feels everyone deserves free healthcare, the state reimburses better than ANY insurance company. I know, I see them in the ER asking for a prescription for Tylenol so they don't have to pay for it because "they can't afford it" as all of their litter from all different fathers are holding happy meals in their fat, grubby little hands.
Every single patient I discharge from my ER is sent home with a copy to call their physician to arrange for follow-up in the next 1-2 days! No bullshitting, no matter how small of a thing, that's what they're told.
Good luck finding a good doc, there are some still left out there you just have to research to find 'em.
On second thought, screw the statin and come along for the chowder ride! It'll be worth it, scouts honor!
CJ
Thanks for the reply, CJ. A lot of that supports my conclusions.
My little primary care dilemma is compounded by having just completed my annual physical with the wicked witch of the west.
I assume that any new PCP would want to do a complete physical on me before subscribing anything.
Here is my short term plan:
I can take my own BP no problem, so I'm going to try and exercise (and diet) my way off the HCTZ over the next 90 days, which is when my existing prescription expires. It's a pretty lame-*** drug anyway if you think about it, lowering your BP by making you pee a lot. That part of the plan I am fully comfortable with since if I see that the BP isn't responding enough I can just go to a new doctor with that complaint at that point.
But, if (when) I go off the statin I will not know what's happening to the cholesterols unless/until I fork over some big lab fees. It was never all that bad before she drugged me, and (correct me if I'm wrong) cholesterol is more of a chronic threat, so I think that I'll be OK at least until my next annual physical.
Now if the weather would just warm up a bit so I can run around outside instead of having to ride my exercise bike in the dusty basement... :angry:
My little primary care dilemma is compounded by having just completed my annual physical with the wicked witch of the west.
I assume that any new PCP would want to do a complete physical on me before subscribing anything.
Here is my short term plan:
I can take my own BP no problem, so I'm going to try and exercise (and diet) my way off the HCTZ over the next 90 days, which is when my existing prescription expires. It's a pretty lame-*** drug anyway if you think about it, lowering your BP by making you pee a lot. That part of the plan I am fully comfortable with since if I see that the BP isn't responding enough I can just go to a new doctor with that complaint at that point.
But, if (when) I go off the statin I will not know what's happening to the cholesterols unless/until I fork over some big lab fees. It was never all that bad before she drugged me, and (correct me if I'm wrong) cholesterol is more of a chronic threat, so I think that I'll be OK at least until my next annual physical.
Now if the weather would just warm up a bit so I can run around outside instead of having to ride my exercise bike in the dusty basement... :angry:
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worldbound4now
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The direct question is not, but the follow-up education which reinforces the importance of safety equipment may have a direct impact on injury reduction when you decide to hop off of that motorcycle at speed.
Same with gun ownership... it's not about whether you own a gun. It's about whether you have a trigger lock or not, children in the home, etc... that impacts your health and/or the health of your family. The medical home is expanding and SHOULD NOT be focused on active illness. I do understand the conspiracy theory side of things though. I can see the information potentially being used maliciously by some third party payers if they actually discovered the information. I'm trying SO HARD to not make this turn political, but politics/regulation plays a huge role in your fears.
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