NAUGHTY FJR

[S76]

This 06 bike has been nothing but pefect with 12K miles on it. Till today.

The bike has been sitting ("sitting" seems to be a 4 letter word in the world of FJR's) for 5 weeks in the heated basement while I have been traveling for work. Finally got a couple of days to re-bond with the girl and decided to install a box full of farkles. Zumo, Cal Sci, PC III. So I do all that over the course of a couple of days here and there. Tonight I go to start it and it cranks fine and emits one "pup" and nothing. OK, I've read about this anomoly on the forum before, so I hold the throttle wide open and crank it a couple of times for maybe 8 seconds. Nothing! Dang! What did I screw up? Is the PC III bad? Confusion sets in. Then I stick my nose in the mufler and sure enough it smells like fuel. PC III must be doing something. Crap!

I take the tank loose and unplug the wires going to the fuel pump. Try cranking again at WOT and get a pop, then another, then a couple more and it quits trying. OK. Must be dried out. Plug the pump back in and it fires right up. GOOD? Well not really cuz now it's got a bad noise coming from the motor. Too light of a knock to be a rod, too heavy to be a valve. Kinda sounded like piston slap. OK, I've read about that hear somewhere too but can't remember the out come. So it warms up for a while and most of the knock goes away. I bundle up for the 35 degree temps and go for a spin. It's running fine by the time I return home after 20 miles and the knock is gone.

What was that all about? I understand these engine seem to have a tendency to flood, which is stupid for a fuel injected engine, but OK, but what was the knocking noise?

And did you know, if you hold a steady throttle of 3K RPM's, in the pitch dark, those header pipes give off a romantic glow? Yup, a pretty dull red. Don't know what to think about that either.

Anyway:

The Cal Sci +2 is super nice! Much better than stock. Much quieter.

The PCIII seemed good but I didn't pay it much attention because-

The Zumo and me are not getting along just yet. I was busy crossing the yellow line at night trying to get it to play the stupid MP3's which it won't. It plays just one song from the play list and stops. Yesterday I used it in the car to get to a wedding I was unfamiliar with and it got me to the right address.....but we were in the wrong freaking town. Damn.

Technologicaly Challenged

bob

 

[dcarver]

The Zumo and me are not getting along just yet. I was busy crossing the yellow line at night trying to get it to play the stupid MP3's which it won't. It plays just one song from the play list and stops. Yesterday I used it in the car to get to a wedding I was unfamiliar with and it got me to the right address.....but we were in the wrong freaking town. Damn.
Technologicaly Challenged

bob

Second bad review of the zumo now.. makes a feller wonder.. tnx for the post..

 

[HaulinAshe]

I'll offer this as a possible 'splanation...

I have found that if you washy washy frequently, and sometimes put her up wet in the garage without running her long enough to complete the warm up cycle, that restarting later can be a problem. So my suggestion is to make sure that whenever you get her started make sure you run her long enough to finish the job.

The warm red glow is perfectly normal on modern 4-stroke engines with titanium steel headers.

Just FYI, if you are running triple digit speeds at high RPM, the red glow is there too. But I wouldn't recommend bending over the side to see.

 

[S76]

The Zumo and me are not getting along just yet. I was busy crossing the yellow line at night trying to get it to play the stupid MP3's which it won't. It plays just one song from the play list and stops. Yesterday I used it in the car to get to a wedding I was unfamiliar with and it got me to the right address.....but we were in the wrong freaking town. Damn.
Technologicaly Challenged

bob

Second bad review of the zumo now.. makes a feller wonder.. tnx for the post..

OK. I finally figured out the MP3 player on the Zumo. What else besides operator error. If you touch a displayed song all you get is that song. You have to select "play all". :blushing:

And, I went back to the wedding directions and figure I must have entered the wrong town. There is a Windsor, East Windsor, South Windsor, and Windsor Locks, all right next to each other and they all have a # 297 Main Street.

So, my bad. Don't want a product to get a bad name on my short comings.

On the positive side. You can ride along with a Blue tooth phone in your pocket and when it rings it displays on the screen and you can answer it hands free through the Zumo. Very cool.

 

[wallypiper]

My '04 came up with a sudden knocking noise like that. Took it to the shop and they couldn't find anything wrong so they sprayed a water mist into the intake while she was running. That steam cleaned the carbon out of the cylinders and the knock went away. The tech, with many years of experience, swears it isn't the first time. They said a big cloud of black crap came out when they did it. Just running it hard might accomplish the same thing but take longer.

 

[fhaze]

Second bad review of the zumo now.. makes a feller wonder.. tnx for the post..

I guess thats only ONE bad review of the Zumo now isn't it.

Why are people so quick to trash this thing?

 

[S76]

Second bad review of the zumo now.. makes a feller wonder.. tnx for the post..

I guess thats only ONE bad review of the Zumo now isn't it.

Why are people so quick to trash this thing?

Don't know but....I mounted mine on a steering stem mounting nut and ram ball so it sits perfectly between the handle bars, it doesn't block the instruments, the key, or the use of a tank bag and is the same color as the handle bars so it blends in nicely. I hard wired into the circuit for the glove box plug so you don't need additional fusing and it autmatically comes on and off when ever you turn the key. It provides phone, MP3, XM and GPS which is all I need and does it with minimum clutter in the cockpit.

 

[fhaze]

I assume you got the Stem Nut from MCL//which Ram Ball did you need to buy?

Mine is arriving tomorrow. 2gb SD from bestbuy @$29 waiting to pop in!

 

[S76]

Follow-up on the knocking noise.

Just started it up in the basement. It started normally and no knocking noise. Sounded correct.

Maybe an injector problem, which I obviously was having due to the flooding, was causing the noise like a lean knock or something?

Moral of the story, start bike every couple of weeks? Don't know but it's going to be 60 degrees in CT today and I have the day off. Going to get what may be the last ride of the year in.

WaaHoo!

 

[Bounce]

If you start it, you need to run it in (including transmission) long enough for everything to get hot enough to burn off the condensation that happens internally. Otherwise you're doing more harm than good to the motor, tran, and exhaust. If you can't get it up to operating temp, then throw some sta-bil into the gas, run it long enough to get the treated gas throughout the whole injector system, shut it off for the season, and plug it into a battery-tender.

 

[boogahboogah]

I had your symptoms after I did a full wash of the bike, idled it for 30 seconds, then shut it down. Tried to start it 2 weeks later & boy was I worried. Took 4-5 minutes of coaxing to get her going, no throttle/full throttle/part throttle/full throttle etc etc. That was 7 months ago & problem has not re-occurred, so I'm thinking it was related to being wet for all that time.

 

[Mark G]

I'm pretty sure you can rule out a rod as the source of the knock.

 

[tripletango]

My 05 did the same thing after sitting for a while. Hell of a knocking noise on start up. It was on the center stand. Left it on the side stand after that if i was not using the bike for a while. No problems starting then.

Been away 2 months - tried starting my 06 which I left on the center stand with tank half full and it took forever.

I am pretty sure the problem is caused by condensation forming inside the tank.

Solution is to leave it on the side stand so the moisture misses the tank pickup and does not get a chance to work it's way to no good or keep the tank full.

Have heard that the tank rusts from condensation as well so if you leave the bike it is important to fill the tank.

 

[tapsport]

knocking noise was probably from all the excess fuel causing a small hydro-lock. IMO

 

[S76]

knocking noise was probably from all the excess fuel causing a small hydro-lock. IMO

I thought that too initially, but the noise continued for 5 minutes or more of running time and gradually faded away. I would think the fuel should have been gone by then? Not sure.

Now, when I start the bike after it has been sitting a while I crack the throttle open just a tad before hitting the starter in hopes it will catch and not flood first. Seems to start quicker this way.

 

[RTSR1/FJR]

Well if the injectors did leak, it washed out the cylinders and you had piston slap till everything got lubed up again. My question would be why are the injectors leaking that much fuel?

 

[04FJR4ME]

The Zumo and me are not getting along just yet. I was busy crossing the yellow line at night trying to get it to play the stupid MP3's which it won't. It plays just one song from the play list and stops. Yesterday I used it in the car to get to a wedding I was unfamiliar with and it got me to the right address.....but we were in the wrong freaking town. Damn.
Technologicaly Challenged

bob

Second bad review of the zumo now.. makes a feller wonder.. tnx for the post..

Why all the hate and negativity? So if you have a few people that can't use a computer? Does that mean all computers are bad? Didn't Santa bring you what you wish for?

OK. I finally figured out the MP3 player on the Zumo. What else besides operator error. If you touch a displayed song all you get is that song. You have to select "play all".

And, I went back to the wedding directions and figure I must have entered the wrong town. There is a Windsor, East Windsor, South Windsor, and Windsor Locks, all right next to each other and they all have a # 297 Main Street.

So, my bad. Don't want a product to get a bad name on my short comings.

On the positive side. You can ride along with a Blue tooth phone in your pocket and when it rings it displays on the screen and you can answer it hands free through the Zumo. Very cool.