Yes, sorry.Ignacio - did you mean to type "... no price increase for the ES this year..."?
Yes, sorry.Ignacio - did you mean to type "... no price increase for the ES this year..."?
I'd bet on typo as well......... the ground clearance difference in the past was on the suspension pivot on the ES hanging down further than the A...... seat heights were the same.I believe the difference is a typo, someone got the two specs reversed. That would be a wicked change if it were true.....There are some small differences between the '17 & '16 models.... Trail and ground clearance.side-by-side
I concur. 2016 seems to have these two numbers inverted vs. the 2014, 2015, and 2016. And I don't think Trail has changed since at least 2010 when they started publishing it. I'm leaving it consistent across the years when I update the comparison matrix unless somebody can demonstrate it is truly different for the 2016.I'd bet on typo as well......... the ground clearance difference in the past was on the suspension pivot on the ES hanging down further than the A...... seat heights were the same.I believe the difference is a typo, someone got the two specs reversed. That would be a wicked change if it were true.....There are some small differences between the '17 & '16 models.... Trail and ground clearance.side-by-side
Nothing new at all I have that chrome emblem on my black 2014esSo the only real difference is the chrome emblem that was added. 2017, ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ nothing to see here folks. You may return to you regular channel.
fixed?I concur. 2017 seems to have these two numbers inverted vs. the 2014, 2015, and 2016. And I don't think Trail has changed since at least 2010 when they started publishing it. I'm leaving it consistent across the years when I update the comparison matrix unless somebody can demonstrate it is truly different for the 2017.I'd bet on typo as well......... the ground clearance difference in the past was on the suspension pivot on the ES hanging down further than the A...... seat heights were the same.I believe the difference is a typo, someone got the two specs reversed. That would be a wicked change if it were true.....There are some small differences between the '17 & '16 models.... Trail and ground clearance.
side-by-side
Agreed; I was hoping they'd continue down the road of recent true colors like red and blue, but it appears they're sticking w/ the more typical, neutral gray, black, silver, etc.Bleh. Another non color.
If there are any left!Agreed; I was hoping they'd continue down the road of recent true colors like red and blue, but it appears they're sticking w/ the more typical, neutral gray, black, silver, etc.Bleh. Another non color.
Oh well, that makes my decision next spring much easier...a '16 it is!
I'm full of transpositions from an Excel worksheet today.fixed?I concur. 2017 seems to have these two numbers inverted vs. the 2014, 2015, and 2016. And I don't think Trail has changed since at least 2010 when they started publishing it. I'm leaving it consistent across the years when I update the comparison matrix unless somebody can demonstrate it is truly different for the 2017.I'd bet on typo as well......... the ground clearance difference in the past was on the suspension pivot on the ES hanging down further than the A...... seat heights were the same.I believe the difference is a typo, someone got the two specs reversed. That would be a wicked change if it were true.....There are some small differences between the '17 & '16 models.... Trail and ground clearance.
side-by-side
Yeah, that's my concern as well...just have to hope for the best.If there are any left!Agreed; I was hoping they'd continue down the road of recent true colors like red and blue, but it appears they're sticking w/ the more typical, neutral gray, black, silver, etc.Bleh. Another non color.
Oh well, that makes my decision next spring much easier...a '16 it is!
PWI is an arrestable offense.I'm full of transpositions from an Excel worksheet today.fixed?I concur. 2017 seems to have these two numbers inverted vs. the 2014, 2015, and 2016. And I don't think Trail has changed since at least 2010 when they started publishing it. I'm leaving it consistent across the years when I update the comparison matrix unless somebody can demonstrate it is truly different for the 2017.I'd bet on typo as well......... the ground clearance difference in the past was on the suspension pivot on the ES hanging down further than the A...... seat heights were the same.I believe the difference is a typo, someone got the two specs reversed. That would be a wicked change if it were true.....There are some small differences between the '17 & '16 models.... Trail and ground clearance.
side-by-side
I'm hopeful my FINAL comparison matrix will be sorted.
Actually, I think only one post said that. The rest were gut reactions to the announcement.Wow. 52 posts in 4.5 hours to say Black, not Blue.
How are you going to explain no 6th gear and LED lights?Is this NERPT yet? LOL
Just buy a 15 for 10K swap out the slipper clutch, buy the chrome piece, scratch the serial numbers off, and tell everyone it is a 2017. DONE!
...and the colorHow are you going to explain no 6th gear and LED lights?Is this NERPT yet? LOL
Just buy a 15 for 10K swap out the slipper clutch, buy the chrome piece, scratch the serial numbers off, and tell everyone it is a 2017. DONE!
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