No 2014 Tenere?

[Spud]

A little off-topic post here, but....

Walked up to a guy that was on a BMW r1200rt at a gas station here 2 days ago...he was from Kali... Asked him where he was headed... He was all pissed off and pointed to a U-Haul truck gassing up. Says--we'll we were supposed to be going to Glacier....

His friend's 2013 Triumph explorer 800 started having electrical problems in MT, things got worse and it died. First big trip on the bike. They were not happy about it and U-hauling it back to Kali. Good to know the British brands still have their charming "eccentricities"

 

[Intech]

Didn't Yamaha Canada have a triple at CFR along with the 2013 FJR's? I thought I heard someone say it didn't have a VIN. I never took a close look.

 

[Bungie]

Didn't Yamaha Canada have a triple at CFR along with the 2013 FJR's? I thought I heard someone say it didn't have a VIN. I never took a close look.

Yup - FZ9

And the VIN:

 

[Intech]

Yep. That's the one! I could see that becoming a dual sport platform.

 

[Geezer]

Yep. That's the one! I could see that becoming a dual sport platform.

I like the FZ9, but it would need a shaft drive if it was going to replace the Super Tenere.

 

[20valves]

The twin is a better platform for an adv bike. Yam also introduced a new twin along with the triple and I'd think that would go in a new adv bike, if they're going to do one for the US. I really like my Tenere and hope Yam doesn't give up on it in the states. The triple "adv" bikes that Triumph makes aren't good off road bikes, they're just like mom's SUV, looks the part but never has to actually play it.

 

[juniorfjr]

I'm thinking they need to make the Super a triple and then come out with a Tenere at about 700cc. Light enough for trails and big enough to go down the hwy.

 

[SkooterG]

Didn't Yamaha Canada have a triple at CFR along with the 2013 FJR's? I thought I heard someone say it didn't have a VIN. I never took a close look.

Yup - FZ9

And the VIN:

FZ-09 actually. And folks, this isn't supposed to be an 'adventure' bike. Think more towards hyper motard. It is replacing the FZ-8 and will be competing with other naked street bikes like the Speed Triple and Street Triple.

First time I rode an FZ-8 I fell in love. It was going to be my next bike. Then Yammie introduces this FZ-09. 50 lbs. lighter than an FZ-8 (414 lbs wet for the FZ-09), handlebars about 2" higher, and pegs about an inch lower. Dual map modes and $900 cheaper than the FZ-8 at $7990! And it's a triple!

This will be by next bike. Word.

Hoping to be able to ride one in October.

Oh, and I'll look much better on it than that dork above! ^^^^^

 

[Bungie]

Oh, and I'll look much better on it than that dork above! ^^^^^

Your just jealous that despite being a demo ride monkey, I got to sit on a running one first.

They wouldn't let me ride it though. If I had the money, this would be on my short list for a 'fun/hoon' bike.

 

[Fred W]

Yeah, I think the other guys were saying the cross plane triple would make an interesting lump to build a new midsized adventure touring bike around.

As for having a shaft drive on an ADV bike, why? It just makes the bike heavier and harder to service in BFE if/when you have drive-line problems. Ask the GS boys about that. Having shaft drive is nice on a touring rig like the FJR. No need to lube a chain at gas stops, stays nice and clean, etc, etc. But for my money I'll take the lighter weight and simple repair-ability of chain drive on any bike that is intended to travel (very far) off the pavement.

I am obviously totally biased as I am still very much in love with my old '04 Manstrom. It is a real do-it-all kind of bike. Yeah, it could lose a few pounds, but I really do think the high rpm 90 degree V twin power-plant in the DL1000 is a perfect choice for an ADV bike.

I'm very anxious to see what the new Man-strom turns out to be. Vtwin1200cc with newer body work (like the Gen 2 Wee) and 50 lbs lighter? The Gen 2 wee has been very well received, but it competes in a category without any peers.

edit: The above p[rompted me to do a little googling. It seems the 2014 Manstrom will still likely be a DL1000, just with some new body work?

Cycle World Article with pics of the concept bike shown at Intermot.

 

[Checkswrecks]

First off, from two peeps on the Tenere forum, the reported demise of the Super Tenere is premature, per the following letter :

September 10, 2013

Dear Yamaha Motorcycle Dealer,

The 2014 model year Super Ténéré will be introduced in March 2014.

Dealer order allocations for the 2014 Super Ténéré will be based on each dealer's retail sales of 2012 and 2013 Super Ténéré models.

We hope this information helps you better plan your current and future retail business plans.

Sincerely,

Dennis McNeal
Motorcycle Operations
Motorsports Group Company

Obviously take ALL of this with a big grain of neenernet truth salt.

And for Freds' question:

As for having a shaft drive on an ADV bike, why? It just makes the bike heavier and harder to service in BFE if/when you have drive-line problems. Ask the GS boys about that. Having shaft drive is nice on a touring rig like the FJR. No need to lube a chain at gas stops, stays nice and clean, etc, etc. But for my money I'll take the lighter weight and simple repair-ability of chain drive on any bike that is intended to travel (very far) off the pavement.
I am obviously totally biased as I am still very much in love with my old '04 Manstrom. It is a real do-it-all kind of bike. Yeah, it could lose a few pounds, but I really do think the high rpm 90 degree V twin power-plant in the DL1000 is a perfect choice for an ADV bike.

The shaft was a pre-requisite for me, for long distance, daily commuting, etc. Other than on fun-bikes, I'm done with chains. A true off road or fun bike makes sense for a chain, but in this group, Yam clearly both learned from BMW's experience and was/is trying to steal sales from BMW's GS & GSA. Both of which are heavy, big bore bikes used mostly on road, like the Tenere. btw, the Tenere shaft has not had a breakdown issue, just the same few leaks as in the FJR world that it is copied from.

Our family has both a Man-Strom and Tenere. The Tenere is a big step in evolution from the 'Strom, being better both on road and off. Like the DL1000, the Tenere is overweight, but not really from the shaft. It's designed not to break in South Africa or the Aussie Outback.