No-Mar alternative

[BikerGeek99]

Interesting thread...

My rear PR2 is getting a wee bit thin. Anyone around Central Ohio willing to trade a tire-change demonstration for lunch & a 12-pack?

 

[CHRIS_D]

IMHO, the No-Mar is a great piece of equipment and design. If I had the space to set one up and leave it there without cursing it every time I wham my elbow into it, I'd own one.
If I could afford a semi-automatic changer AND had space, I'd own one of those instead.

I ordered the No-Mar JR PRO with the trailer hitch mount. I was real hesitant because I do have the space but like you said above, I didn't want to trip on it all the time. I was also real skeptical that it wouldn't function as good mounted on the trailer hitch compared to mounted on the groud. Well I'm here to tell you it works great mounted on the pickup truck. :yahoo: Plus when I'm done, I just hang it on my garage wall and it's out of the way. The other benefit is when I get a track bike I can bring the changer with me and change tires on site.

 

[TCMike]

I must repeatedly do a poor job of expressing my opinions on this forum without coming off as condescending or critical. Must be my lovable nature.
IMHO, the No-Mar is a great piece of equipment and design. If I had the space to set one up and leave it there without cursing it every time I wham my elbow into it, I'd own one.

If I could afford a semi-automatic changer AND had space, I'd own one of those instead.

I was really just trying to "help a brother out" by pointing out that there are other alternatives if space and money are not available for the No-Mar. I thought that's what this thread intended to ask.

Now if I burned through 3 sets of tires a year it might be a different story.

I average seven, Yes-7! sets per year.

But the guy down the road mounts mine for $10 each (therefore I don't mind the occasional scratch). My changer sits idle most of the time unless he's closed and I have to use it.

7 sets!? You need to buy yourself a cycle dealership so you can give yourself a good discount. I wish I had the time, and weather to burn through that many. Maybe when the kids are out of the house, and I'm an oldster like you. :grin:

 

[Fred W]

I must repeatedly do a poor job of expressing my opinions on this forum without coming off as condescending or critical. Must be my lovable nature.
IMHO, the No-Mar is a great piece of equipment and design. If I had the space to set one up and leave it there without cursing it every time I wham my elbow into it, I'd own one.

If I could afford a semi-automatic changer AND had space, I'd own one of those instead.

I was really just trying to "help a brother out" by pointing out that there are other alternatives if space and money are not available for the No-Mar. I thought that's what this thread intended to ask.

Now if I burned through 3 sets of tires a year it might be a different story.

I average seven, Yes-7! sets per year.

But the guy down the road mounts mine for $10 each (therefore I don't mind the occasional scratch). My changer sits idle most of the time unless he's closed and I have to use it.

7 sets!? You need to buy yourself a cycle dealership so you can give yourself a good discount. I wish I had the time, and weather to burn through that many. Maybe when the kids are out of the house, and I'm an oldster like you. :grin:

That ain't it Mike.

Jeff burns up those tires because he a) rides to work and back . B) does that on ****** southern roads where pavement is a different concept, c) does that at a 45 degree lean angle most of the time and d) seldom rides less than the speed limit (plus a few).

I don't think age has much to do with it...

 

[TCMike]

I must repeatedly do a poor job of expressing my opinions on this forum without coming off as condescending or critical. Must be my lovable nature.
IMHO, the No-Mar is a great piece of equipment and design. If I had the space to set one up and leave it there without cursing it every time I wham my elbow into it, I'd own one.

If I could afford a semi-automatic changer AND had space, I'd own one of those instead.

I was really just trying to "help a brother out" by pointing out that there are other alternatives if space and money are not available for the No-Mar. I thought that's what this thread intended to ask.

Now if I burned through 3 sets of tires a year it might be a different story.

I average seven, Yes-7! sets per year.

But the guy down the road mounts mine for $10 each (therefore I don't mind the occasional scratch). My changer sits idle most of the time unless he's closed and I have to use it.

7 sets!? You need to buy yourself a cycle dealership so you can give yourself a good discount. I wish I had the time, and weather to burn through that many. Maybe when the kids are out of the house, and I'm an oldster like you. :grin:

That ain't it Mike.

Jeff burns up those tires because he a) rides to work and back . B) does that on ****** southern roads where pavement is a different concept, c) does that at a 45 degree lean angle most of the time and d) seldom rides less than the speed limit (plus a few).

I don't think age has much to do with it...

So your saying he's a wild one on 2 wheels, eh.

 

[S76]

I feel I am still in the dark ages using a rock and stick.

I happen to have a large bench vise. I just put the tire on the bench and roll it into the vise and squeeze to break the bead. Simple. Then I use 3 tire irons and 4 plastic rim protectors to mount and dismount. Then ballance with a MP balancer. Total investment $100.

I do use silicone grease on the bead to mount and dismount which makes things go very easy. Also makes it easy to break the bead when disassembling.

Took them to a Cycle Gear once. They charged me $60 for the pair and the tape on weights fell off as I was taking them out of the car. Never again.

 

[Grumpy]

I must repeatedly do a poor job of expressing my opinions on this forum without coming off as condescending or critical. Must be my lovable nature.
IMHO, the No-Mar is a great piece of equipment and design. If I had the space to set one up and leave it there without cursing it every time I wham my elbow into it, I'd own one.

If I could afford a semi-automatic changer AND had space, I'd own one of those instead.

I was really just trying to "help a brother out" by pointing out that there are other alternatives if space and money are not available for the No-Mar. I thought that's what this thread intended to ask.

Now if I burned through 3 sets of tires a year it might be a different story.

I average seven, Yes-7! sets per year.

But the guy down the road mounts mine for $10 each (therefore I don't mind the occasional scratch). My changer sits idle most of the time unless he's closed and I have to use it.

7 sets!? You need to buy yourself a cycle dealership so you can give yourself a good discount. I wish I had the time, and weather to burn through that many. Maybe when the kids are out of the house, and I'm an oldster like you. :grin:

That ain't it Mike.

Jeff burns up those tires because he a) rides to work and back . B) does that on ****** southern roads where pavement is a different concept, c) does that at a 45 degree lean angle most of the time and d) seldom rides less than the speed limit (plus a few).

I don't think age has much to do with it...

Fred you left out the most important part; his right hand that only operates the throttle in two modes...OFF and WFO!

jim

 

[HaulinAshe]

I ordered the No-Mar JR PRO with the trailer hitch mount. I was real hesitant because I do have the space but like you said above, I didn't want to trip on it all the time. I was also real skeptical that it wouldn't function as good mounted on the trailer hitch compared to mounted on the groud. Well I'm here to tell you it works great mounted on the pickup truck. :yahoo: Plus when I'm done, I just hang it on my garage wall and it's out of the way. The other benefit is when I get a track bike I can bring the changer with me and change tires on site.

That's definitely interesting.

I have a small SUV. It has a Class-3 hitch, but maximum rated tongue weight is something like 350 lbs.

How much pressure do you think you are exerting on the hitch?

Any concerns about using it on a lighter duty hitch like mine?

 

[CHRIS_D]

I ordered the No-Mar JR PRO with the trailer hitch mount. I was real hesitant because I do have the space but like you said above, I didn't want to trip on it all the time. I was also real skeptical that it wouldn't function as good mounted on the trailer hitch compared to mounted on the groud. Well I'm here to tell you it works great mounted on the pickup truck. :yahoo: Plus when I'm done, I just hang it on my garage wall and it's out of the way. The other benefit is when I get a track bike I can bring the changer with me and change tires on site.

That's definitely interesting.

I have a small SUV. It has a Class-3 hitch, but maximum rated tongue weight is something like 350 lbs.

How much pressure do you think you are exerting on the hitch?

Any concerns about using it on a lighter duty hitch like mine?

I'm using it on my 94 Silverado with the standard two inch receiver (can't remember what class). The No-Mar weights in at about 100 lbs, so you would be under iyour max tonge weight. However in regards to the pressure I'm not sure if this would be an issue or not. IMO You aren't really placing pressure on the receiver for any extended period of time. Even if you did it wouldn't be much more than your body weight. Seth at No Mar has been using his exclusively on a Chevy S-10, which he claimed has been without any problems.

 

[C&C]

Well, I mounted up my PR-2's this weekend. Used the Mojo-stand and the Mojo-lever. Needed a little muscle and the help of my wife but got the job done fairly easily. I mounted the Mojo-stand to my work bench and used a mixture of Balestrol and water (for tire lube; worked very well by the way). I used Mr. Clean's Magic erasure to clean the inside of my rims (to get a nice clean bead seat).

Got the new meats mounted and went for a ride. I had PR's before and the new PR2's felt very similar. I got a little over 10,000 miles on the PR's (with the rear requiring puncture repairs using two stringy patches; one went about 6,000 miles with the patch and the second somewhat over 2,000 miles). When I pulled the old rear off, I was curious to see how tenacious the stringy patch was adhering to the inside of the tire, pretty well actually; I needed a pair of pliers to rip it out.

 

[dbx]

Add me to the list of people who bought the No-Mar changer when it was on holiday discount a couple of years ago. 10% off and free shipping, I think.

I attach mine to the hitch on my Toyota Highlander and it works great. It takes about 30 minutes to change a tire, depending on how long I screw around trying to get the balance just right. When I used to pull the wheel and take it to the dealer, I could expect to wait at least 2 hours, and sometimes I had to leave it overnight if I arrived too close to closing time. Since I have the changer now, I can change a tire on my own schedule.

If I hadn't totaled my '05 at the beginning of the riding season, the changer would have paid for itself this year. As it is, I expect to break even next year and it's all gravy after that. Faster, more convenient, and knowing the job is done right...what's not to like?

dbx

 

[daddyman]

I've been looking at the No-Mar for a while, and came across this on ebay:

https://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...T&viewitem=

I have not checked with No-Mar, but it seems to be a No- Mar motorcycle tire only changer, with goodies, for a bit more than a Harbor Freight, and less than the full blown No-Mar products.

Hmmm...

Perhaps I'll forward the link to my wife for gift ideas!

 

[CHRIS_D]

Here's a little story about No-Mar.

Check out this link: Dealer Feedback

 

[Fred W]

Here's a little story about No-Mar.
Check out this link: Dealer Feedback

Since I can't respond to your tale in the vendor section (forum rules) I'll do it here.

[SIZE=14pt]Wow!![/SIZE] That is truly customer service above and beyond any reasonable expectations.

I remember reading your posts about having troubles and thinking, "yeah, he must be doing something wrong, but I sure don't know what". I guess Steve thought the same thing...

If I ever decide I want to put down my spoons and get a "changer" I will definitely consider NoMar 1st.

 

[CHRIS_D]

Here's a little story about No-Mar.
Check out this link: Dealer Feedback

Since I can't respond to your tale in the vendor section (forum rules) I'll do it here.

[SIZE=14pt]Wow!![/SIZE] That is truly customer service above and beyond any reasonable expectations.

I remember reading your posts about having troubles and thinking, "yeah, he must be doing something wrong, but I sure don't know what". I guess Steve thought the same thing...

If I ever decide I want to put down my spoons and get a "changer" I will definitely consider NoMar 1st.

Believe me Fred. I'm still saying WOW.

By the way Steve from No-Mar said they are going to manuafacture a tire changer to compete with the Harbor Freight model (same price point). It should be comming out real soon.

 

[Fred W]

Here's a little story about No-Mar.
Check out this link: Dealer Feedback

Since I can't respond to your tale in the vendor section (forum rules) I'll do it here.

[SIZE=14pt]Wow!![/SIZE] That is truly customer service above and beyond any reasonable expectations.

I remember reading your posts about having troubles and thinking, "yeah, he must be doing something wrong, but I sure don't know what". I guess Steve thought the same thing...

If I ever decide I want to put down my spoons and get a "changer" I will definitely consider NoMar 1st.

Believe me Fred. I'm still saying WOW.

By the way Steve from No-Mar said they are going to manuafacture a tire changer to compete with the Harbor Freight model (same price point). It should be comming out real soon.

Being a stingy frugal Yankee, that appeals to me greatly. I'll keep an eye out for that...

 

[big ears]

Got the harbor freight and the mojolever and stuff. The mojo man was very good to deal with. Promp replys and quick shipping. Unless you do more than a set or two a year you don't nead nothing else.

 

[dartnmartn]

I got the set up from Harbor Freight. I think it was around $70 bucks. The biggest issues is getting it mounted to something solid. It take a fair amount of torque to peel one off the rim. I also invested in a big jug of tire lube which I apply liberally during the changes. I paid $125 for a balancer from Riderwarehouse. Ironic cuz there is about 40 pounds of China iron in the tire changer and about 13 ounces in the balancer.

I get a kick out of doing my own tire changes. Guys say... "Where do you get your tires done..."? When you say "I do them myself" yor next comment could be"And I can walk on water too" and they'd believe you!

Plus, like has already been mentioned. You KNOW you've got it balanced right.

SOAP BOX time. I find that most guys who say "It's not worth my time to (fill in chore here)" really mean. "I'm too scared to try something like that". Or... "I'd rather watch the whole season of 24 than to go out in my garage and wrench on my bike." I'm fine with you not working on your ride. Just don't make it sound like you're so busy and important to wrench and by the way, you shouldn't work on your ride either cuz you make ME look like a ******.

Go for the do-it-yourself! I've done around 6 sets now and it's really not too bad. And My FJR rims still look new.

 

[big ears]

Built a 3 by 3 slab 6 inches thick in back of my shop. Put down some concrete anchor bolst so I can remove it when not working on a tire change.

 

[C&C]

I already posted about my MojoStand, but worth repeating, it mounts to my workbench and removes easily when I'm done. Mitch, who sold me the MojoLever and the MojoStand may still have a couple of the MojoStands (he told me that he still had some in stock but wouldn't be making anymore). The MojoStand is a great alternative to the NoMar or Harbor Freight units. I paid $277 for the lever and the stand combo. You can Google Mojolever if you want more info; by the way, Mitch is a heck of a nice guy to deal with as well.