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OMG Shiny......my eyes, my eyes!......I can't believe that awful pic burned into my brain.............this is gonna require some medication before I can even think of going to sleep.........lol......

"Gravel and cintered roads are fine. Muddy trails down a slope can be tricky"

I myself have solved the dirt issue by adding two new letters to FJR.......as in KLR.......one of the few big, heavy, beasts that you can ride around and look at a curb and think "I can jump right over that and head up the hill if I wanna" ......yep thats what the KLR does..........you may not do it often but you COULD..........and thats just a good feeling..........you need two machines..........and those expensive GS machines are heavier pigs than the KLR.........

 
OMG Shiny......my eyes, my eyes!......I can't believe that awful pic burned into my brain.............this is gonna require some medication before I can even think of going to sleep.........lol......
"Gravel and cintered roads are fine. Muddy trails down a slope can be tricky"

I myself have solved the dirt issue by adding two new letters to FJR.......as in KLR.......one of the few big, heavy, beasts that you can ride around and look at a curb and think "I can jump right over that and head up the hill if I wanna" ......yep thats what the KLR does..........you may not do it often but you COULD..........and thats just a good feeling..........you need two machines..........and those expensive GS machines are heavier pigs than the KLR.........
I agree. That's why I picked up one of these:

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And yeah, I like to go through puddles and mud and stuff. One curb som far...

 
Ignore all of the previous advice.
Go for a ride.

Realize that only 2% of ADV guys ride anywhere, the other 98% just post to the forum. Those 2% though, they freaking ROCK! Everyone can't be them.
I like this guy! Although...

You are NOT crazy. You ARE missing most of the riding to be had. You are part of the matrix (paved roads) and will never be satisfied until you swallow the red pill and begin enjoying the freedom of dual sport. CAN I GET A HALLELUJAH?!

... and I step down from the podium. :blink:

 
So it really depends on the type of riding you want to do, if you looking for long rides and dirt road riding....(dirt road) then the KLR is a perfect bike. If you looking for a dirt bike with a plate so you can ride short distances and then take it offroad your going to want something much lighter than the KLR. I had my KLR for 2 and a half years and really like it but riding in So Cal there is a log of sand and wash riding the the KLR was just too heavy. I picked up a Husquvarna TE510 about 240lbs and what a bike for offroad and its plated from the factory. :construction: :construction:

 
Looks like your sliders did you a shitload of good there. :rolleyes: :bleh:
Sure they did, it allowed him to pivot the bike, on its side like that, to get the tires on something .. uhm.. solider. :D

Besides thats the definition of adventure touring... taking inappropriate equipment to places it shouldn't be. Why do you think all those dumbasses get their shorts sticky thinking about taking their 800lb GS's off road.

 
Now that you mention it, it does look like it made a decent grab handle :bb2:

I had the Feej on dirt within a week of ownership.

Now, I ain't goin muddin like ShinyParts did, but dirt roads (yes, ROADS not TRAILS) are not really a problem.

 
I think Panman would beg to differ about the FJR not being a good offroad bike. He took his all of 12 miles on a forest service road with no dumps or bumps.

I looked long and hard before I found the perfect farkle to turn my FJR into an off-road warrior, whilst still preserving all the sport touring aspects I love about it. For this farkle, it helps to have FWT* for the initial installation:

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I guess what am trying to say Duane is stop yer whining and get thee to Tasky's Metric Cycle, where they have a screaming deal on a new 09 TE450, as well as the absolutely gorgeous new TE630 DS:

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*Friends With Trailers.

 
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New 2003 FJR owner ... former "Dirty Boy" dual sport rider / long distance dual sport tourer.

I love my FJR, but I do miss those dirt and gravel roads ...

My new to me 2003 FJR is definitely the best LONG DISTANCE SPORTY TOURING bike I’ve ever owned, and this opinion is based on over 45 years riding AND owning APPROXIMATELY 58 bikes.

My last few bikes were:

- KLR 650 ... all tricked out for long distance touring, mucho dinero spent on upgrades.

I took the KLR to Baja and back. On that trip I ended up riding my buddy's BMW 650 Dakar North after he broke his leg going too fast in the deep sand [ he says because he forgot that the ABS was turned off, but I donthinso ]

- BMW Dakar ... when I got back from the BAJA I did the $$$/performance math, and decided a good USED Dakar was a much better value than any KLR, no matter how much you spent tricking the KLR out.

The Dakar got traded when I met my new Power Back Warmer Unit, because the Dakar was not set up for comfortable two up long distance riding.

- BMW 1150 GS ... after the Dakar, the Power Back Warmer loved this ride, and we did occasionally do some gravel roads with it, riding two up, and riding SLOWWWWWwww.

- PBWU got her own bike, so I sold the GS and picked up another dual sport ... a Suzuki DR 650. Great ride, lots of fun, but the PBWU would not ride with me on those carazy/dirty days, as mud and bruises were not her thing. Come to think of it, at over 60 years old, getting cold and wet and dirty and bruised or broken was not as much fun for me as it used to be either.

- Traded up to the 2003 FJR, and got back into COMFORTABLE two up long distance FAST touring. Once I added 1” riser bars, the FJR me fit perfectly. It handles and rides on the highway faster and better than my BMW GS ever did. Even if I did give up all delusions of exploring all those gravel roads and dusty dirt trails that the Dakar and the GS thrived on.

Last Summer, we did a two week / 9,000 Km trip through the BC interior, and to Alberta and back, attending the Horizons Unlimited and BMW rallyes at Nakusp. The only uncomfortable part was when I laid my 60 plus year old bones on the ground, in the tent, after the days riding. But buying a big fat air mattress fixed that.

The Power Back Warmer Unit loves the comfort of the FJR's Corbin seat and the smooth power of the FJR. She says it is the best bike for her too .... and lately she has been hinting she wants to start riding my FJR instead of her 650 cruiser.

Oh well … time to lower the insurance deductible!!!

[;{)

While we were at the Horizon's Unlimited rallye, they showed a movie of some absolutely insane Indian rider, who took a Indian Royal Enfield STREET bike over the Himalayas on the highest road in the world, into some of the most remote territory left in the world. He had special racks welded up and fitted to take massive amounts of extra gas. So there he was, on a HEAVY STREET bike, with hundreds of pounds of extra gas, pushing his bike over the passes when the carburetor of the Enfield crapped out at the high altitudes. PLUS, he was having bouts of altitude sickness himself.

He didn't quit, and he pushed [ as in did NOT ride ] that STREET bike over those passes into some incredible stuff. A testimony to personal fortitude and endurance that impressed the hell out of me, and a lot of other "Serious" motorcycle riders/world tourers/explorers who actually BTDT, and make up the core of the HU membership.

So, the next day, when someone asked if I wanted to take my pampered fat ass and ride my shiny FJR "down a bit of gravel", how could I say no??

YES!!!

BTDT!!

If driven carefully AND slowly , the FJR, two up, maxed out with all the luggage and camping gear you need for COMFORTABLE camping, will ride rather nicely down dry gravel roads,

BUT WHEN IT GETS WET ....

WELL LETS JUST BE POLITE ...

AND ENVISION HIPPOS ON ICE SKATES!

But then, as a "mature" rider,

I tell myself ...

"who actually NEEDS to ride in the messy muddy wet any how??"

So, as it sits now, as we prepare for another season of two up long distance motorcycle ?Sport? touring/camping/exploring, the FJR is still my favorite choice.

But another Dakar or DR 650 would be nice as a stable mate, for those rare days when I fool myself into thinking that I am still that YOUNG Dual sport riding "Dirty Boy",

OR,

maybe we should get TWO BMW GS 650s,

and instead of riding two up, get the PBWU out there beside me instead of behind me?

Tough call ...

maybe the best bet would be to keep the FJR AND get TWO more BMW 650 GSs ...

But how many motorcycles does one couple actually need?

[;{)

LAZ 1

 
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Three of us (SPORT, Wild72 and me) road I don't know how many miles down a freakin' logging road in Nova Scotia. So much mud...so much.... We were THRILLED to see the stone-and-dirt road at the end of it all! That was the suckiest shortcut ever. But it was awesome!

 
Get one of these and it will sate your needs ever more for dual sporting

https://www.ktmusa.com/690-Enduro-R.100707.20.html

This bike is comfortable on the street or dirt. Just went out yesterday and hammered 40 miles of desert dirt riding mixed with about 10 miles of pavement. Didn't miss a beat. From talking with KLR/X, Honda DS, Yamaha DS owners, much time and money is spent upgrading thier units.

This bad boy comes ready to rock and roll. Fuel injected, 63hp, gobs of torque, 11 inches of clearance and 9 inches of travel.

Just yesterday we cleared a 4' drop without a hitch.

Only bad thing, if your inseam is shorter than 32, then you will need to look somewhere else. KTM's are tall. Interesting watching a guy walk over to a big rock to lean on while he started his motorcycle.

Expensive yes, but truly turn key performance.

 
Get one of these and it will sate your needs ever more for dual sporting
https://www.ktmusa.com/690-Enduro-R.100707.20.html

This bike is comfortable on the street or dirt. Just went out yesterday and hammered 40 miles of desert dirt riding mixed with about 10 miles of pavement. Didn't miss a beat. From talking with KLR/X, Honda DS, Yamaha DS owners, much time and money is spent upgrading thier units.

This bad boy comes ready to rock and roll. Fuel injected, 63hp, gobs of torque, 11 inches of clearance and 9 inches of travel.

Just yesterday we cleared a 4' drop without a hitch.

Only bad thing, if your inseam is shorter than 32, then you will need to look somewhere else. KTM's are tall. Interesting watching a guy walk over to a big rock to lean on while he started his motorcycle.

Expensive yes, but truly turn key performance.
Which is why it's out of my books... 30" inseam - just not up for the hassle, given the amount of coin needed to bring one home. :( Lovely bike, though! Still, trying to climb onto Dave's Husky was futile - at least in front of it's owner and the gals in the driveway. ;)

 
Adventure touring?

HMMmmmmmm?

IMHO, it is more about the abilities of the rider, thanit is abouit his choice in "Dual Sport" equipment.

On our Baja trip, from Vancouver Island to Cabo San Lucas and back, we had a dozen bikes and riders.

[1]- KLR [ that would be me ] with about $3000 worth of "world circumnavigating Adventure Touring" upgrades including custom built hard side boxes ]

[1]- BMW Dakar 650 [ which IMHO is just about the best Dual sport/adventure touring bike available]

[2] - DR Suzuki DR 650 STRIPPED DOWN to bare bones, as light and simple as possible [ which were slow on the hiway, but the best bikes off road ]

[1] - Suzuki Vstrom 1000, with street tires, and one crazxy/very good rider, that was impossible to catch up to on the roads and which did amazing stuff in the soft sand ... up to the point where he hit a hidden rock and cracked the lower case [ JB weld and a a gallon of spare oil should always be along for these rides ]

[1] - Triumph Tiger ... the Vstrom and the Tiger rat rac ed the hiways, and were always at the front of the opack, but the Tiger did NOT go in the sand.

[1] Honda 500 V twin - nice older tecvhnology

[1] - Valkyrie ... he stayed on the hiway, and had as much fun as the rest of us

[1] - KTM 650 , who had the only break down on the trip [ and getting KTM parts flown in to Mexico is... awkward ]

[3] - BMW 1150/1200 GS .... nice comfortable bikes, but way too big for the sand .. unless you are built like Arnold Schwarznegger.

All of us had a great time,

and which bikes we picked didn't really have a lot to do with how much fun we had ...

except for the guy on BMW 650 Dakar, who broke his leg. AfterIi rode his Dakar back,

I sold my KLR [ fat ugly slow pig that it was ] and bought a [ sleek, nimble, better handling ] good used Dakar of my own.

 
The Dakar is the best bike BMW made IMO. Almost all DS or dirt bikes are tall for travel and clearance. Some lower them ( not a good idea , it is self defeating) the best is a custom seat that is lowered.

 
it's all relative. my fjr is way better off road than my cbr or my old gold wing. i really can't understand the adv bike thing. off roading is supposed to be fun and man handling a pig down trails ain't my idea of fun. i would bet that 98% of adv bikes never go off road. i say keep the fjr and get a decent dual sport. or take the very normal approach and buy a hypermotard and modify it for dirt riding. :dribble:

 
I found out yesterday our local Truimph dealer just started carrying the Husky's. I was kind of set on a KLR 650, but this may have just changed my mind. I'm gonna go look later this week. Maybe tomorrow since they are open some Sundays.
If there was a Husky dealership within 100-150 miles of me I would have gotten one. I lust after the 330... get a Husky over a KLR if you can.

 
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