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pawtracks

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I came out of Wendy's tonight and two guys were looking at my bike pointing and talking all about it.

Turns out one of them has an 03 FJR.

I told them about the forum, how great it is, wealth of knowledge, etc...

I 've learned much in my 2 short months.

I told them to check it out when they get home.

Like many I bought my FJR sight unseen, never sat on one or anything before owning my 05.

One of the things I really enjoy about the FJR community is the sharing of info, tips, farkles, how-to's, etc...

Here are a few things I will share tonight (maybe it will help someone else out or inspire some ideas).

Got around to my 2nd oil change today.

Maybe a little early at 2500 miles but I had the time and the oil looked a little dark to me.

One of my first posts here was about oil capacity.

This time around I told myself "Self, make sure you change the oil on the sidestand this time to get the little extra bit of old oil out that won't come out on the centerstand"

With the bike nice & warm from an afternoon ride I started with the bike on the centerstand since it is easier to get to the side panel to wrap in aluminum foil, access to the drain plug, etc...

Oil came out nice, no mess.

Took off the filter (more to follow on that)

Everything going along smooth

Remember bike is on centerstand with oil drain pan underneath.

Plan:

Carefully push bike forward to get it off the centerstand

With one foot, I will carefully nudge drain pan forward and place bike on side stand to drain out the extra oil with a goal of not spilling a drop of oil.

Problem:

Drain pan is much to high to fit under bike when off center stand

I basically pushed the bike off the center stand onto the drain pan which wasn't that sturdy.

I felt the bike going over (away from me), heading towards my freshly waxed black car :diablo:

Noooooooooo!

Somehow I grabbed hold of the bike and tried pushing the center stand through the garage floor with everything I had, the bike jumped back on the center stand.

<heart-rate waaaaay up there>

Note to self: The bike is much heavier with a full tank of gas (just filled it up on the was home)

Lesson learned (get a shorter drain pan, measure ground clearance first or leave the extra dirty oil in there next time)

Soooo close to a bonehead move :dribble:

My oil drain pan is 6.5" high at its lowest point, parts of it are 7-7.5" high

15qt capacity Blitz

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In my attempt to place the bike on the side stand about 5-10 drops of oil came off the aluminim foil wrapping onto the garage floor. At this point I figured screw-it, I already have a mess so I just put the bike on the side stand to see how much more oil would come out. (no drain pan, straight to the floor)

As you can see, not a whole lot more (side stand vs center stand)

Not sure if getting a shorter pan is worth collecting the extra 3-4 ounces of oil

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I told you I would get to the oil filter

I have a small collection of oil filter wrenches (none of which work worth a damn on the FJR filter size)

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-Returned one of those plastic ones that is "supposed to" grab the end (didn't work)

-Broke 2 craftsman rubber strap wrenches on my last oil change

-Needed vice grips, a large screw driver and a strap wrench to get the last filter off.

-I only put this filter on hand tight last time (how did it get so tight??)

Even at the smallest setting my smallest wrench is too big

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I need something to wrap the filter in to make the filter wrench grab tightly.

What do I have??? Hmmmm...

Found a lonely glove sitting on the freezer, other glove long been lost (why do I still have this?)

Just kind of put the glove over the filter and tighten the wrench around the filter

Works perfectly, now I have a filter wrench that works on the FJR!

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I knew there was a reason I hadn't thrown that glove out :D

While I had my camera out I figured I would take some sightglass photos.

Many people ask about oil level in the sightglass.

After draining as much out as I could on the sidestand and a filter change I refilled with 4.25 qts.

With the bike on the center stand, everything tightened back up, I started it up and let it run for about 2 minutes.

Your oil level may differ but this is what mine looked like:

-Main picture sight glass (almost empty with bike running)

-Turned bike off, this is what my sight glass looked like at:

-15 seconds, 1 minute & 5 minutes

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I had a similar experience. Now, I just pull the bike toward me while it's still on the centerstand and get the extra bit of oil out. Oh, and I skip the whole foil step. Must be a Blue bike thing.... :p

Test question: ((fill-in) A clean bike is a ___ bike.

 
Before moving from centre to sidestand, I refit the drain plug and remove the pan

Once the bike is on sidestand you can reposition the pan and remove the plug - easier and saves a lot of mess

 
Gang here's a tip I watched my mec do when he changed my oil filter...he pulled the box apart the new oil filter came in and and used it instead of the alfoil..not a drop on the bike or the fairing!

Ciao

 
A couple of things:

Even after draining with the sidestand there is still approximately 1 quart of dirty oil in the crankcase; don't bother to do the extra step of the sidestand drain.

When you hand tightened your oil filter on the last oil change did you wet the "O" ring with oil before you tightened the filter?

The pictures you took of the sightglass are excellent and exactly what you should be seeing when you do an oil change or when you need to check your oil level.

Great post; it should be a good lessen to the new guys just doing their first oil changes.

 
Pawtracks - take another picture of the sight glass after you've gone riding a couple of times and it sits for 5+ minutes. Mine seems to manufacture oil after a couple of rides! Now I usually - w/an oil change - fill it to 1/3 to 1/2 in the glass and after a couple of rides it's got just a little air bubble in the top.

 
Pawtracks - take another picture of the sight glass after you've gone riding a couple of times and it sits for 5+ minutes. Mine seems to manufacture oil after a couple of rides! Now I usually - w/an oil change - fill it to 1/3 to 1/2 in the glass and after a couple of rides it's got just a little air bubble in the top.
That seems common in the FJR, it makes oil.

I do basically the same thing. For instance, for just an oil change (no filter) I fill it with 3 quarts or so on the center stand and then run it for a few minutes. Then I let it cool off for a while (go take a poop or something), then I check the sight glass and fill so it comes to almost half way up. Then I run it again and let it cool off for a while (walk the dog or something). Usually it is fine after that. I don't follow the specified amounts in the manual, I put in how much I need to get it half way up the sight glass.

I prefer not to have too much, or a full glass of oil. JMHO

 
Pawtracks - take another picture of the sight glass after you've gone riding a couple of times and it sits for 5+ minutes. Mine seems to manufacture oil after a couple of rides! Now I usually - w/an oil change - fill it to 1/3 to 1/2 in the glass and after a couple of rides it's got just a little air bubble in the top.
This is exactly how mine looked after an oil change at the shop. And thanks for this thread. I'll be one of the rookie's checking it out when I do the next (my first) oil change.

 
If you need a lower pan to catch oil while on the sidestand, a $0.60 aluminum oven roasting pan works well... especially for the last little bit you don't get while on the centerstand. Heck, an aluminum pie pan would work too for that amount.

 
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1st: New Filter is your best friend in any oil change.

2nd: The little bit of oil left will do no harm.

3rd: I stopped bothering with buying all those fancy oil filter tools a long time ago as it seemed every new car or bike I bought required a different size.

Driving a screw driver through the oil filter takes seconds on the fjr and works perfectly.

4th: I did the oil change on centerstand so that when filling it back up it was level, never on side stand.

5th: I always did my oil changes around a wash so really didn't care if it got a little oil on it...

Oh, Keep the bike away from Car at all times. They seem to be attracted to each other and will collide no matter what you do. :D

 
.... a $0.60 aluminum oven roasting pan works well...
Ah the aluminium roasting pan field expediant oil change. Good for those last little drops.
NOT so good for a complete oil change! First - the oil gushes out and and if there is the slightest breeze, it seriously misses the roast pan; second - what oil does hit the oil pan quickly fills it up, requiring rapid insertion of a second oil pan; third - when removing the full aluminium roast pan quickly, it is highly unstable and easily collapses in half or whatever unless supported all around its bottom; finally you need 4 roast pans to do the job (what you only have 3?) and now try to rapidly transfer the roast pans full of oil into a jug of some kind.

The things you learn on the road ...

 
FWIW, I have a couple Chev Astro dog dish hubcaps I use for interim catch pans and for the final drive drain. Just the right size, sturdy, easy to clean out etc, and small enough to locate just about anywhere needed.

 
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