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I have a nice $43.00 un-used emesis basin I brought home from the hospital after the bee incident. Insurance bought it for me so I figure I might as well get some use out of it. Great for final drive and in case I screw something up so bad on the bike that I puke.

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I have a nice $43.00 un-used emesis basin I brought home from the hospital after the bee incident. Insurance bought it for me so I figure I might as well get some use out of it. Great for final drive and in case I screw something up so bad on the bike that I puke.
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How the heck did you manage that?

That is a broken spark plug I assume, is that what I am looking at?

 
How the heck did you manage that?That is a broken spark plug I assume, is that what I am looking at?
That was the first plug I ever (over) tightened into the bike. I susequently purchased a torque wrench and read the instructions on the spark plug box. Doh! They're not like the plugs in small block Chevy's.
That also happened before I obtained the emesis basin, so I had to fight really hard the urge to puke on my shoes. Luckily, the snapped-off part came out with a long screwdriver engaging the ground prong. No tightness once the rest of the plug was no longer attached. Phew!

 
How the heck did you manage that?That is a broken spark plug I assume, is that what I am looking at?
That was the first plug I ever (over) tightened into the bike. I susequently purchased a torque wrench and read the instructions on the spark plug box. Doh! They're not like the plugs in small block Chevy's.
That also happened before I obtained the emesis basin, so I had to fight really hard the urge to puke on my shoes. Luckily, the snapped-off part came out with a long screwdriver engaging the ground prong. No tightness once the rest of the plug was no longer attached. Phew!
Wow, yea I know the feeling when I snapped the pinch bolt on my wr250f forks. Sucks

Spark plugs I treat like a low torque bolt and don't use a torque wrench. I just screw it in until I feel it touch and then just light snug. Of course I never did one on the FJR so don't have any experience with that one...

 
Even after draining with the sidestand there is still approximately 1 quart of dirty oil in the crankcase; d

Care to explain this one????
Unless you turn your bike upside down you're not going to get to the oil that resides in and around the gears case of the transmission. Sure it gets circulated when you're running the bike, so it's not static, but there is about a quart that stays behind. The Service Manual lists total amount of oil as 5.18 quarts. When changing without a new oil filter the quantitiy required to refill is listed at 4.02 quarts, with oil filter change the quanity required is 4.23.

 
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Of course I never did one on the FJR so don't have any experience with that one...
They kinda sit down in a recessed area of the motor, so it would be pretty difficult to snug them up with just your fingers...

Nice 2 piece plug Toe.... some assembly required?

 
Even after draining with the sidestand there is still approximately 1 quart of dirty oil in the crankcase; d

Care to explain this one????
Unless you turn your bike upside down you're not going to get to the oil that resides in and around the gears case of the transmission. Sure it gets circulated when you're running the bike, so it's not static, but there is about a quart that stays behind. The Service Manual lists total amount of oil as 5.18 quarts. When changing without a new oil filter the quantitiy required to refill is listed at 4.02 quarts, with oil filter change the quanity required is 4.23.
Pardon me, but I think that's hilarious.... that's going to drive a certain type of person crazy.

 
Why waste your time with the foil? loosen the allen bolt on the fairing tail and wedge it away from the block. No muss, no fuss.

Can't wait to see the write-up on airing tires...

:grin:

 
Why waste your time with the foil? loosen the allen bolt on the fairing tail and wedge it away from the block. No muss, no fuss.
Can't wait to see the write-up on airing tires...

:grin:
It's a sickness :D

I forgot to tell you even above & beyond the tin foil you will still get the allen bolt hole full of oil as it runs down the case. For this I stick the corner of a paper towel into the hole to suck out any remaining oil

Ahhhh, now I can sleep well at night as long as I remember to take my medication :)

I don't fill my tires with plain old air, I use nitrogen...

But that should be another thread (is it ok if you hijack your own thread?)

 
I have a small collection of oil filter wrenches (none of which work worth a damn on the FJR filter size)-Returned one of those plastic ones that is "supposed to" grab the end (didn't work)

-Broke 2 craftsman rubber strap wrenches on my last oil change

-Needed vice grips, a large screw driver and a strap wrench to get the last filter off.

-I only put this filter on hand tight last time (how did it get so tight??)
yeah, I have a half dozen different wrenches myself; the one that worked for me is the type that has a flexible metal strap that 'wraps up' around the filter; instead of a handle like a strap wrench, it has a square hole where a handle would normally be; you stick a socket extension in the hole, then have great leverage with a ratchet handle. After the first couple of changes, I switched to K&N filters; the welded-on nut on the end sure makes life easier.
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Of course I never did one on the FJR so don't have any experience with that one...
They kinda sit down in a recessed area of the motor, so it would be pretty difficult to snug them up with just your fingers...

Nice 2 piece plug Toe.... some assembly required?
No I would still use a extension or something but would just keep wiggling until they are all the way touching. Then put the wratchet on and gently snug. A gentle snug just simple compresses the little washer that's on them, that is all that is needed no more...

Why waste your time with the foil? loosen the allen bolt on the fairing tail and wedge it away from the block. No muss, no fuss.

Can't wait to see the write-up on airing tires...

:grin:
It's a sickness :D

I forgot to tell you even above & beyond the tin foil you will still get the allen bolt hole full of oil as it runs down the case. For this I stick the corner of a paper towel into the hole to suck out any remaining oil

Ahhhh, now I can sleep well at night as long as I remember to take my medication :)

I don't fill my tires with plain old air, I use nitrogen...

But that should be another thread (is it ok if you hijack your own thread?)
A friend with a yzf600r uses a paper towel cardboard inner. He cut a open area at one end to go under the oil filter. This way when he removes the filter the oil goes along the cardboard, through the exhaust and into a pan. This keeps the oil off of the exhaust and the fairing. The oil filter is on the front of the bike for those who don't know.

Works well. I however again will just be washing the bike afterwards and simple green works wonders :D

 
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No way I'm jumping into the middle of an oil thread, but that's a nice garage floor. Which OCD treatment do you prefer? :D

Speaking of OCD, might it be possible to extract that last 0.75qt of oil using a "topsider" type device?

- JimY

 
Unless you turn your bike upside down you're not going to get to the oil that resides in and around the gears case of the transmission.
There is no Gear case for the transmission, it's all part of the engine cases. And it drains to the pan. The only oil that wont drain would be the oil absorbed by the clutch basket and a minor oil film on all the wetted surfaces,

 
Unless you turn your bike upside down you're not going to get to the oil that resides in and around the gears case of the transmission.
There is no Gear case for the transmission, it's all part of the engine cases. And it drains to the pan. The only oil that wont drain would be the oil absorbed by the clutch basket and a minor oil film on all the wetted surfaces,
Gears go all the way around, oil sits on top of the gears, in between of the gears, everywhere. Many places for the oil to get caught and not drain down...

 
For plug removal/install, a long piece of 3/8" fuel hose or 1/2" heater hose, depending on insulator diameter, makes for easy work, when installing new plug, do not torque, but tighten 1/4-1/2 turn after gaskets first seats when hand tightened. The best oil filter wrench is a large pair of adjustable pliers. Will fit behind the Riley Highway Peg bracket with no problem.

 
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To heck with all this bike maintenance stuff, I want to know where you got that garage floor coating!! :questionmark:

 
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Unless you turn your bike upside down you're not going to get to the oil that resides in and around the gears case of the transmission.
There is no Gear case for the transmission, it's all part of the engine cases. And it drains to the pan. The only oil that wont drain would be the oil absorbed by the clutch basket and a minor oil film on all the wetted surfaces,
Whatever, my main point was that wherever the oil is, it's darn close to 1 quart.

 
Wow, you guys can make a simple job pretty complicated. Given the amount of residual oil left in the engine, I don't see a dangerous "tipping" maneuver to get 1/3 of the residual out worth the risk.

My regimen: centerstand, drain, pop filter off with $4 pep-boys #5 cup wrench (tin foil on fairing panel), replace drain, screw on new Yamaha filter (oil o-ring slightly and get as tight as possible by hand), refill with 4 qts. (I don't even bother looking at the slight glass as an hour of riding later, it will always be right in the middle of the sight glass range). Whole process takes 15 minutes if I'm drinking a beer and goofing off. I've never had a motorcycle that is this easy to change oil.

- Mark

 
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