Patriot Guard...or maybe Gypsy Joker Crash, On way to funeral

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(original thread that was closed)

https://www.fjrforum.com/forum//index.php?s...=26879&st=0

(article about accident)

https://www.katu.com/news/10303247.html

First of all, Jerry is not dead.

Second of all, he was neither in a Patriot Guard or a Gypsy Joker. He's a member of a Christian motorcycle group.

Third, I know these guys and they are not generally hot-rodders or show offs, especially on the interstate and on the way to a funeral. That usually is a somber time and can kind of make you think a little about being careful. Check the age of some of the guys involved. And most of them I know for a fact, I would bet they were riding a motorcycle when YOU were in DIAPERS.

The dude who went to join up with the group and pulled into the pack and HIT Jerry, now him I do NOT know or who he belonged to. He must have been high, stupid, inexperienced or all THREE. That ONE dude single-handedly brought down everyone else. Like I said, I don't know who he is, but it seemed as if you all were talking about a "THEY" in general and I DO know the rest of the "THEY" and "THEY" were doing nothing wrong. "THOSE" guys have ridden together for years, with safety first and NO accidents.

Jerry wasn't on a Harley, either. I think he actually has a yamaha or maybe it was a kawasaki. It's one with those with the "Classic" styling that sort of imitates Harley.

You know, WHY all the rumor, speculation and innuendo?

About a man who was critically injured? Sad.

On the way to a FUNERAL for another man? Again, sad.

I see a lot of people here bashing and stereotyping people who ride Harleys.

You know what THEY (most of them, anyway) have that some of you others are missing?

A feeling of "brotherhood", for ALL people who ride ANY TYPE of motorcycle!

These Christian riders were going to show their support for a fellow brother, motorcyclist and HUMAN BEING.

Why would they ride amongst outlaws, you ask? Because they still have a feeling of brotherhood, a love of motorcycles and riding.

Some of them have lived that "bad" sort of lifestyle in the past, and who should they minister to? Certainly they don't need to preach to a choir, right?

They feel they are needed amongst their brothers, not to preach at them, but to perhaps just show some faith and support in a time of need.

How about not feeling all superior about your type of bike you prefer or your superior riding skills and having a little compassion?

Accidents happen, mistakes happen, stupid people happen, drunk drivers are everywhere, deer happen, falling rocks happen...etc

It could happen to you, too.

 
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It could happen to you, too.
Yes, it could happen to any one of us. More likely to happen in that group than in one of ours, but that would be just rubbing salt into a wound.

I'm sorry your friend (assuming it is a friend) got hurt. But, human nature pokes fun at people doing dumb *** things. That's just life. This qualified.

 
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We presume you're talking about the few folks here that bash Harleys and not all FJRForum members. We cherish our fairly liberal board guidelines.

Also good to know the rider is alive and other details. I was the one that closed the thread mainly because I sensed there was too much confusion about what seemed like two issues at the time...that actually may be even more complicated. I don't think anybody has an issue with people going to pay respects at a Patriot Guard event.

Pardon us if we remain a bit skeptical of a person with two posts. It would help if you had a link to a bona fide article or source that set the record straight.

Otherwise, welcome to the forum an hopefully you'll want to stick around to talk about the main reason most of us are here on the forum......FJRs.

 
I don't think anybody has an issue with people going to pay respects at a Patriot Guard event.
Just to clarify, this was NOT a Patriot Guard group. They were on the way to a Gypsy Joker funeral, which is confirmed with Anya's post when the "Why ride amongst outlaws" was used. I just want that to be clear. I have the utmost respect for those going to honor a veteran, especially a combat vet. The Patriot Guard has a similar viewpoint as indicated in their mission statement "We have an unwavering respect for those who risk their very lives for America’s freedom and security."

A lifelong Gypsy Joker is NOT someone who risked their life for America's freedom or security. A Gypsy Joker is a person who devotes their life to being an outlaw, and belong to an organization responsible for some of the most heinous crimes imaginable. Thus, my respect for those going to honor this lifelong Gypsy Joker is noticeably diminished.

 
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I'm sorry your friend (assuming it is a friend) got hurt. But, human nature pokes fun at people doing dumb *** things. That's just life. This qualified.
Did you READ my post?

I agreed, the GUY WHO I DID NOT KNOW who pulled into the pack was an *****!

I AGREE!

Does that mean one random ***** who we are making fun of how STUPID he was, we should just include the innocent people around him who were hurt, just because they were there?

The other guys were doing NOTHING WRONG and were injured! That's funny to you?

Pardon us if we remain a bit skeptical of a person with two posts. It would help if you had a link to a bona fide article or source that set the record straight.
YOU all were "quoting facts" from that ONE article and WHERE did it say what type of bikes the guys were riding?

WHERE did it say what CLUB they belonged to?

YOU link me to THAT article, OK?

The facts I stated to try to set the record straight were from friends that were THERE, where an immediate part of the group, and WITNESSED the accident as it happened.

 
I don't think anybody has an issue with people going to pay respects at a Patriot Guard event.
Just to clarify, this was NOT a Patriot Guard group. They were on the way to a Gypsy Joker funeral, which is confirmed with Anya's post when the "Why ride amongst outlaws" was used. I just want that to be clear. I have the utmost respect for those going to honor a veteran, especially a combat vet. The Patriot Guard has a similar viewpoint as indicated in their mission statement "We have an unwavering respect for those who risk their very lives for America’s freedom and security."

A lifelong Gypsy Joker is NOT someone who risked their life for America's freedom or security. A Gypsy Joker is a person who devotes their life to being an outlaw, and belong to an organization responsible for some of the most heinous crimes imaginable. Thus, my respect for those going to honor this lifelong Gypsy Joker is noticeably diminished.
THAT I do NOT know, literally. I am not saying that the Christian group was literally riding in a group with the outlaws that day. I just know a bunch of guys were riding together, I did not get a roster of the number of bikes and everyones name, OK?

I meant in general, people wonder why Christian bikers may be ever seen talking to outlaws or at the same Biker events, no matter who is sponsering the event, if its a bike rally or a funeral or a bike show or whatever. They aren't sworn enemies. I was just jumping ahead because I often hear people ask that question. It was irrelevant, really.

 
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I don't think anybody has an issue with people going to pay respects at a Patriot Guard event.
Just to clarify, this was NOT a Patriot Guard group. They were on the way to a Gypsy Joker funeral, which is confirmed with Anya's post when the "Why ride amongst outlaws" was used. I just want that to be clear. I have the utmost respect for those going to honor a veteran, especially a combat vet. The Patriot Guard has a similar viewpoint as indicated in their mission statement "We have an unwavering respect for those who risk their very lives for America’s freedom and security."

A lifelong Gypsy Joker is NOT someone who risked their life for America's freedom or security. A Gypsy Joker is a person who devotes their life to being an outlaw, and belong to an organization responsible for some of the most heinous crimes imaginable. Thus, my respect for those going to honor this lifelong Gypsy Joker is noticeably diminished.
Oh, so you knew him personally, huh? You have a manuscript of his life story and his prison record on file, eh?

Again, perpetuating the streotypes.

 
Yeah, I think you're likely a troll and crossing various guidelines. I also don't think you're a good candidate to work and play well with others here. 6 posts and they have all just gotten more and more confrontational.

If you want to convince me otherwise....you're welcome to send me a personal PM after you've read and truly agree to the board guidelines. Meanwhile, your posting privileges are suspended and this thread is closed.

The Management

 
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