Pitted cam lobes.... uncool.... :(

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j/k of course. But the bucket surfaces will tell the other side of the story. heeheeheeheehee, Man! I'm on fire tonight!
Yes, you are! :D

Got two more pics to review... still working on getting close-up pics of the buckets...

This photo is in better focused at the cam lobe end....

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You know, I'll have to say that the top interior of this cylinder head looks pretty damn good for 100,000 miles....

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Those do not look as much like rotation directional scoring as the fuzzy first one did.

I'd have to go with the "minor voids in the casting" based on these later pics.

Definitely nothing to worry about.

 
Those do not look as much like rotation directional scoring as the fuzzy first one did.

I'd have to go with the "minor voids in the casting" based on these later pics.

Definitely nothing to worry about.
I Agree. It doesn't show any signs of Linear Stressing. They are Randomly Shaped and Clearly Defined. That is the Clear Signature of Porosity being Exposed to the Surface.

At the Manufacturing Stage for Inexpensive Parts, If everything looks smooth after Final Machining, and all the Dimensions are on the Dime. They Accept it.

Many Times though, the Porosity is just under the Surface about a couple of Thousandth of a inch just waiting to show themselves. At 100,000 miles, It doesnt look that Bad! :D

 
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Damnation, those Kwak cam pitting areas looks horrendous! :eek:
yet the standard response is that the loss of plating isn't anything to worry about. Go figure.
As I recall (yeah I was a COG guy once) that's not plating. It's pitting of the hardened / ground casting. But because the cam exerts force across a wide surface area, those swiss cheese like holes are of no significance.

 
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As I recall (yeah I was a COG guy once) that's not plating. It's pitting of the hardened / ground casting. But because the cam exerts force across a wide surface area, those swiss cheese like holes are of no significance.
Gotcha. Been a LONG time since I ran a grinder. I could see that type of finish.

 
If the Owner doesn't want to spend the money for a New one. He can put that one Back on for another 100K. Or Pretty Close to it! Just Sayin' :D

 
As I recall (yeah I was a COG guy once) that's not plating. It's pitting of the hardened / ground casting. But because the cam exerts force across a wide surface area, those swiss cheese like holes are of no significance.
I was also a COG member and remember many discussion of this exact sort of problem. I never had pitting on my ZG1000 cams, but as it happened, I had an unusual problem with my C10, the oil line feeding the cylinder head got blocked with a piece of oil filter media (happened before I bought it, yes I am mr. lucky) so no oil got to the head. No surprise, the cams and all the rockers were well and truly ruined by that- and that damage looked nothing like this sort of pitting. Plentiful scoring, and lots of metal worn off the lobes and the rockers. I unblocked the oil line and replaced the cams and rockers with a used set from a fellow COGer.

Fast foward to this year, and when I was doing a valve adjustment on my wife's new-ish (2009 model, bought new in June 2010) EX500, lo and behold I see what looks almost exactly like the pics I used to see on the COG forum. Only about 8000 miles on it, and one exhaust cam lobe has the characteristic pitting. I used good quality oil and filters, changing the filter at every oil change:

Chevron Delo 400 @ 563 miles (first valve check)

Shell Rotella 15W-40 @ 3200 miles

Shell Rotella 15W-40 @ 7086 miles

Mobil Delvac 1300 Super @ 8170 miles

I don't believe for a minute this is an oil-related failure. The EX500 valve train is exactly the same design as the ZG1000, just half as many cylinders, and uses the same rockers, and I suspect the cams are made of the same materials and share the same manufacturing process.

I am going to keep an eye on it, but unless it develops an unbroken line of craters continuously across the width of the cam, I really doubt the dropouts will cause a problem.

Also I am not too worried about it. Mostly because, I already have a spare EX500 engine with low miles, with no pitting on the exhaust cam. :)

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