Running people off the road

[NoCage]

I was talking to my dogs vet. the other day. He had just driven to work and was livid. He said some teenager in an SUV tried to run him off the road. I asked him if he was sure... he said they sped up to get next to him and then started moving over. He was in a small car. I don't know if this is true, but his daughter confirmed that it's sort of a fad for teens in mom or dad's SUV to pull this stunt. WTF?

This is in Hoover, AL (part of metro Birmingham).

Time to break out the ball bearings.

Anyone else hear of this crap? :angry03:

 

[05fjrBluedevil]

Well I hope it doesn't get to my area, because I would not handle it to well.

Can you say rr in a big way. :assassin:

 

[Ignacio]

No conspiracies here.

Just the occasional disconnected idiot that didn't see me. A nice kick to their door with my Oxtar makes them move back into their lane away from the FJR very quickly.

 

[ponyfool]

Time to break out the ball bearings.

Roofing nails also work.... :assassin:

 

[exskibum]

Well, IF that's being done intentionally, that's about as ****** up a thing as I've heard. While there may be lots of legal remedies imposed on the moronic juvenile miscreants doing it, there's another more immediate reaction I'd expect to read about if that **** ever caught on around here. It's called "large caliber handgun", and I'd be surprised if Junior didn't have about a 50/50 chance of returning mommy's SUV with bullet holes if he pulled that on many of the driver-residents in this area. And yes, that'd be a criminal act**, too, albeit a more understandable one.

** Off the top of my head: shooting at someone if it isn't deemed self defense (likely to be charged as attempted murder), discharging a firearm from a motor vehicle on a public road, carrying a concealed weapon that is not in a locked case in a motor vehicle on a public road, and carrying a loaded weapon in a motor vehicle on a public road.

 

[Ignacio]

Well, IF that's being done intentionally, that's about as ****** up a thing as I've heard. While there may be lots of legal remedies imposed on the moronic juvenile miscreants doing it, there's another more immediate reaction I'd expect to read about if that **** ever caught on around here. It's called "large caliber handgun", and I'd be surprised if Junior didn't have about a 50/50 chance of returning mommy's SUV with bullet holes if he pulled that on many of the driver-residents in this area. And yes, that'd be a criminal act**, too, albeit a more understandable one.



** Off the top of my head: shooting at someone if it isn't deemed self defense (likely to be charged as attempted murder), discharging a firearm from a motor vehicle on a public road, carrying a concealed weapon that is not in a locked case in a motor vehicle on a public road, and carrying a loaded weapon in a motor vehicle on a public road.

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Lighten up Francis.

 

[Groo]

That sucks... all the better reason for Concealed Carry...

 

[exskibum]

Well, IF that's being done intentionally, that's about as ****** up a thing as I've heard. While there may be lots of legal remedies imposed on the moronic juvenile miscreants doing it, there's another more immediate reaction I'd expect to read about if that **** ever caught on around here. It's called "large caliber handgun", and I'd be surprised if Junior didn't have about a 50/50 chance of returning mommy's SUV with bullet holes if he pulled that on many of the driver-residents in this area. And yes, that'd be a criminal act**, too, albeit a more understandable one.

** Off the top of my head: shooting at someone if it isn't deemed self defense (likely to be charged as attempted murder), discharging a firearm from a motor vehicle on a public road, carrying a concealed weapon that is not in a locked case in a motor vehicle on a public road, and carrying a loaded weapon in a motor vehicle on a public road.

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Lighten up Francis.

HUH?!?! This is what I don't quite get about this board. Did you READ what I said, or READ INTO what I said???? You haven't heard about road rage?? You haven't heard about drivers carrying loaded weapons in their cars (at least in California)? Reread what I said and ask yourself if you think I'm not right. In this very conservative, very gun ownership friendly (not knocking either here, just girding against your further misunderstanding) area of California I live in, I'd BET on retaliation and defense in the form I suggested. You do this sort of thing on the roads in California (probably almost anywhere anymore) and you are risking getting shot -- same reason that flipping people off on the road and stopping to get into a fight is NOT a smart thing to do.

So, please explain to me how "lightening up" legitimately has anything to do with my observations. Or maybe you disagreed with my suggestion that intentionally running people off the road is "about as ****** up a thing as I've heard"??? Time you crawl back in bed and try climbing out on the other side, maybe??

 

[Rogue]

Well, IF that's being done intentionally, that's about as ****** up a thing as I've heard. While there may be lots of legal remedies imposed on the moronic juvenile miscreants doing it, there's another more immediate reaction I'd expect to read about if that **** ever caught on around here. It's called "large caliber handgun", and I'd be surprised if Junior didn't have about a 50/50 chance of returning mommy's SUV with bullet holes if he pulled that on many of the driver-residents in this area. And yes, that'd be a criminal act**, too, albeit a more understandable one.



** Off the top of my head: shooting at someone if it isn't deemed self defense (likely to be charged as attempted murder), discharging a firearm from a motor vehicle on a public road, carrying a concealed weapon that is not in a locked case in a motor vehicle on a public road, and carrying a loaded weapon in a motor vehicle on a public road.

Although I would want to shoot at anyone who tried that to me IIRC you would have to prove you tried to get away before using deadly force (at least here in Kalifornia).

 

[exskibum]

Although I would want to shoot at anyone who tried that to me IIRC you would have to prove you tried to get away before using deadly force (at least here in Kalifornia).

Although that would be very helpful to your claim of self defense by use of deadly force, it's not an absolute prerequisite. But I'm not going to expound on the elements of self defense, how it might play out, or any other legal reasoning here. Last time I did, I had someone else up my ass for me being too stupid to realize that what the law says is not how he imagined that legal issues always play out in the Peoples' Communist Republik of Kalifornia. Thinking that maybe I should go back to lurking here, PMs, and riding with some of the folks I know from here. Is it something in everyone's Geritol here?

 

[GalaxyBlue]

One thing i am learning is Do not dispute the Admins. Weather right or wrong. And being the political nature of that last post, I am sure a big padlock is coming...

 

[Bounce]

** Off the top of my head
shooting at someone if it isn't deemed self defense (likely to be charged as attempted murder)

which is why self defense against a deadly weapon (car) wouldn't be in that category

, discharging a firearm from a motor vehicle on a public road

Not heard that one. Have a cite for it? Especially for national cites for those in other states?

carrying a concealed weapon that is not in a locked case in a motor vehicle on a public road

See above

and carrying a loaded weapon in a motor vehicle on a public road.

Straw man. First you need to find out if it's a violation, if it would require a CHL/CCW, then if the person had one.

You haven't heard about drivers carrying loaded weapons in their cars

Sure have. In itself neither illegal nor criminal. It's this instant association of firearm ownership with criminal activity that amazes me. They've really done a number on the psyche of the Cal public.

Seems a little phobic in tone and I suspect that's what the chill pill recommendation was about.

 

[Geezer]

Although shooting at someone who is assaulting me with a lethal weapon (the vehicle) seems like an appropriate response, I know the local judge is not likely to see things that way.

I'd do my best to avoid being hit, take the license plate number, and report the incident to the LEO as soon as possible. Even if no leagl action results, having the LEO visit mom and dad will have an impact in most cases.

In my small community it would not be too difficult for me to find out who the miscreant was so I could have a person talk with mom and dad as well.

 

[Ignacio]

One thing i am learning is Do not dispute the Admins. Weather right or wrong. And being the political nature of that last post, I am sure a big padlock is coming...

For the record....it's the last sentence. Thread totally went off track and is done.