Got a chance to sit on the Concours14 tonight :yahoo: . Impressions:
- very similar seating position to FJR (I have an 05 FJR) - bars (though I have risers) seem maybe a little higher than stock FJR, but very comfortable
- Knee cutouts fine - I'm 6', 34" inseam, knees didn't touch like they do on STs
- windshield top edge a bit lower, apparently follows same arc when raised as FJR - prototype wasn't a fully working example
- K-pass remote seems cool - no place to insert a key into dash, just a knob. There is a key that pops into the back of the remote for seat/saddlebag
- seat maybe narrower but firmer than stock FJR seat. Can't really remember as I have Yamaha seat by Corbin
- removed seat - no underseat storage like FJR, but 2 helmet wires, 1 on each side, to lock helmets to bike - irks me that Yamaha still insists on not providing such a simple solution
- saddlebags - mount/dismount almost exactly like Yamaha - tangs on bags go down in slots like Yamaha, and slide over extension to footpeg mount - again like Yamaha. Biggest difference is the top mounts stick out from the bodywork, as opposed to fitting in the bodywork like FJR
- bags have same 2-handle set-up as FJR, 1 for opening the bags, 1 for removing bags. I did try the mechanisms, and I like the way they work better than the FJR as they are much more positive in action - they almost click up & down. I've never liked the way the FJR handles (for R&R bags, open/close) seem to be pulling back against the lock, like they're not quite shut. The FJR ones function fine, I just liked the action of the C14 bags
- exhaust can as big in real life as photos
- bags may not hold ff helmet - no chance to try it out, but then it has the helmet holders, which I prefer, since if your bags are full, there is no place to put your helmet. And, yes, I have seen the threads on how to attach your helmet to the bags
- I personally like the way the bodywork/tank seals off the engine bay, cutting off the heat escape route - huge ducted fairing side vents + sealed bodywork should = cooler cockpit, not that I ever really had much of an issue with the heat
- glove box on tank top pretty small - won't fit much more that reg & ins, etc
I will probably make the switch because I can, try something new, I'm a big Kawi fan, more hp. I have read the posts about how much power you need, how fast do you need to go, etc, but I don't care, that's what I like. Having said that, when I got home I sat on the FJR (though steering locked), had a good look at it, and thought, what an awesome bike the FJR really is! I figure you can't go wrong either way! unk:
- very similar seating position to FJR (I have an 05 FJR) - bars (though I have risers) seem maybe a little higher than stock FJR, but very comfortable
- Knee cutouts fine - I'm 6', 34" inseam, knees didn't touch like they do on STs
- windshield top edge a bit lower, apparently follows same arc when raised as FJR - prototype wasn't a fully working example
- K-pass remote seems cool - no place to insert a key into dash, just a knob. There is a key that pops into the back of the remote for seat/saddlebag
- seat maybe narrower but firmer than stock FJR seat. Can't really remember as I have Yamaha seat by Corbin
- removed seat - no underseat storage like FJR, but 2 helmet wires, 1 on each side, to lock helmets to bike - irks me that Yamaha still insists on not providing such a simple solution
- saddlebags - mount/dismount almost exactly like Yamaha - tangs on bags go down in slots like Yamaha, and slide over extension to footpeg mount - again like Yamaha. Biggest difference is the top mounts stick out from the bodywork, as opposed to fitting in the bodywork like FJR
- bags have same 2-handle set-up as FJR, 1 for opening the bags, 1 for removing bags. I did try the mechanisms, and I like the way they work better than the FJR as they are much more positive in action - they almost click up & down. I've never liked the way the FJR handles (for R&R bags, open/close) seem to be pulling back against the lock, like they're not quite shut. The FJR ones function fine, I just liked the action of the C14 bags
- exhaust can as big in real life as photos
- bags may not hold ff helmet - no chance to try it out, but then it has the helmet holders, which I prefer, since if your bags are full, there is no place to put your helmet. And, yes, I have seen the threads on how to attach your helmet to the bags
- I personally like the way the bodywork/tank seals off the engine bay, cutting off the heat escape route - huge ducted fairing side vents + sealed bodywork should = cooler cockpit, not that I ever really had much of an issue with the heat
- glove box on tank top pretty small - won't fit much more that reg & ins, etc
I will probably make the switch because I can, try something new, I'm a big Kawi fan, more hp. I have read the posts about how much power you need, how fast do you need to go, etc, but I don't care, that's what I like. Having said that, when I got home I sat on the FJR (though steering locked), had a good look at it, and thought, what an awesome bike the FJR really is! I figure you can't go wrong either way! unk: