Sonora & Ebbets Passes Open!

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Got word that both Sonora (108) and Ebbets (4) Passes are open as of last Friday the 9th. Tioga (120) is still closed, but Kit Carson (88) has been open for awhile so 3 outa 4 aint' bad. I'll offer up a ride report as a group of 14 is headed over 108 this Thursday AM for UT and CO for 10 glorious days. Keep in mind the gravel is still present due to recent openings and judging by the number of fellow riders I and my fellow EMS pilots have been plucking off the roads lately, they aren't getting the message. Fore warned is fore armed. Have fun.

 
Yesterday (5/10), I rode 193 to Wentworth Springs to Ice House, then over Echo Summit on 50**, Luther Pass (89) to 88 to Carson River Road and Foothill to Gardnerville, then back up the same way to Woodfords and through Markleeville, over Monitor Pass to 395 south to Sonora Pass, then back up 49 home.

Very little gravel and no visible sand on any of that really. Three or four corners on Sonora was all for gravel. Wentworth Springs was the interesting one, with a few areas of debris and snow drifts still part way across the road between Uncle Toms and Ice House Road. On one downslope in that stretch, there was still one drift all the way across the road. It had two wheel ruts in it, one of which was more thoroughly punched through to pavement than the other, but still had about 75 yards of compacted slushy snow to slip and slide on. I got through, and my hopes that there were no more drifts further on were answered -- because I don't know that I could have gotten back across that one again going uphill (west).

** Watch out for revenue hunting CHP on 50, 395 and 49 -- lots of 'em. Picked up an award on 50 passing one car (73 in a 55) close to the end of a passing lane where it is about to narrow back to one lane -- and who doesn't exceed the speed limit doing that?!?

 
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Very little gravel and no visible sand on any of that really. Three or four corners on Sonora was all for gravel.



** Watch out for revenue hunting CHP on 50, 395 and 49 -- lots of 'em. Picked up an award on 50 passing one car (73 in a 55) close to the end of a passing lane where it is about to narrow back to one lane -- and who doesn't exceed the speed limit doing that?!?

Thanks for this, we'll be taking 108 Thursday morning headed for Tonopah.

 
Dangit ExSkiBum -

why are all the best roads heavily 'monitored'? (pun intended)

Hey, do you need a good lawyer? :unsure: :rolleyes: I'm available! :blink:

 
why are all the best roads heavily 'monitored'? (pun intended)
Actually, 4 (Ebbetts), 89 (Monitor) and 108 (Sonora) aren't usually afflicted with much of a revenue collecting presence, at least not in their more eastern reaches where it's twisty. 88 (Carson) isn't too bad for that either, and what it does get is more often Alpine County Sheriff patrols east of Kirkwood, rather than CHP. Down closer to 49 on each of those (not Monitor, obviously) there is a greater likelihood of revenue collection efforts. Having lived in Tahoe and Gardnerville, I miss being able to take spur of the moment rides on Monitor and Ebbetts -- great times on great roads sans traffic and speed traps. (Guessing this is because, at least in the upper twisty reaches of these roads, there is so little traffic that they haven't been speed surveyed for the calculations necessary to justify the posted speed limits and avoid the speed trap defense in California when they're using radar or lidar. And I can't remember the last time I heard about a CHP officer writing a ticket that didn't involve the use of radar or lidar.)

50 is downright infested with CHP, as are 49 and 395. Also beware on Wentworth Springs Road for unannounced heavy CHP revenue collection days, usually on a weekend and mostly aimed at motorcycles, once it is a bit warmer and the road is known to be open all the way through. Worse, they are CHP, who almost never give anyone a warning or break on what they write. 120 (Tioga) is usually heavily patrolled by USFS Rangers, and they're not too forgiving, either. 49 between North San Juan and Sierra City can be well "monitored" with radar enforcement, as is 89 north of Graeagle and between Truckee and Meyers.

While not a "pass" route worth riding and something of a hijack, I'll throw in the dead bang certain location to get yerself a performance award if you want one: westbound I-80 just west of Applegate, most often focused on the stretch between the Meadow Vista and Dry Creek Road exits. It's a regular orgy of citation writing. I've seen as many as 5 or 6 CHP patrol cars there -- rotating the patrol cars from their last kill back to the starting line on the Meadow Vista on-ramp, while another sits in the shadow of the Meadow Vista overpass or thereabouts with his LIDAR and repeatedly drops the flag for the next-up patrol car to come out of the chute and pull over the next-up victim near the Dry Creek exit. Efficient, non-stop revenue collecting for hours on most days of the week, typically during the heaviest traffic hours of the morning and afternoon, but with Sunday afternoon returnees from Reno and Tahoe the most succulent of prey.

Hey, do you need a good lawyer? :unsure: :rolleyes: I'm available! :blink:
Already got what there is of a defense formulated, just waiting for the notice in the mail (by my estimate, it'll be mid-September before I get a judgment). Sure hope I don't have to use the traffic school safety valve to avoid getting boned by the insurance industry on this one. I'd pay the undoubtedly substantial (73 in a 55) fine without further complaint or thought (except a renewed resolve NOT to do anything that might get me cited, like exceeding 55 while using a passing lane), if it weren't for the insurance industry hand in law enforcement glove that the process really involves. As it is, that was an expensive ride -- 10 gallons of gasoline, the time to deal with the citation and whatever bail and traffic school fees I end up tithing. It's getting so it's damn expensive even to ride anymore, and I sure don't need my MC and Auto insurers sticking me with a 40% surcharge for having one citation on my record. :glare:

To answer an earlier question, I have a radar detector but have never hooked it up (along with many electronic farkles still on my garage shelf) and have never used one on a motorcycle.

 
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Glad to hear that they have made progress on the Sierra passes -- guess the late snow must have not been as heavy as the early stuff.

Here in Colorado the passes that are closed in the winter are still closed, but they are working on them. They all normally open by Memorial Day with no problem. Independence Pass, CO-82 east of Aspen, is projected to open by May 30th, but that is questionable if we keep getting snow. It is snowing in that area right now and they are expecting a foot of the new stuff tonight. The folks doing the clearing are indicating that this is the most snow that they have seen on the roads in 25 years or so -- guess they got around 40' of snow all along the Continental Divide in Colorado. Not considering the drifts, the sensors on Indpendence Pass indicate that the snow depth there now is about 50 inches, but it is solid stuff and ice/water from the melting with about 21 inches of snow water equivalent.

Trail Ridge Road, Mt. Evans, and Cottonwood Pass (dirt on the west site) remain closed. For anyone coming to Colorado and considering these roads, updated info can be found at the CDOT web page at: https://www.cotrip.org/rWeather/All_Regions...308_212402.html

 
50 is downright infested with CHP, as are 49 and 395. Also beware on Wentworth Springs Road for unannounced heavy CHP revenue collection days, usually on a weekend and mostly aimed at motorcycles, once it is a bit warmer and the road is known to be open all the way through. Worse, they are CHP, who almost never give anyone a warning or break on what they write. 120 (Tioga) is usually heavily patrolled by USFS Rangers, and they're not too forgiving, either. 49 between North San Juan and Sierra City can be well "monitored" with radar enforcement, as is 89 north of Graeagle and between Truckee and Meyers.
While not a "pass" route worth riding and something of a hijack, I'll throw in the dead bang certain location to get yerself a performance award if you want one: westbound I-80 just west of Applegate, most often focused on the stretch between the Meadow Vista and Dry Creek Road exits. It's a regular orgy of citation writing. I've seen as many as 5 or 6 CHP patrol cars there -- rotating the patrol cars from their last kill back to the starting line on the Meadow Vista on-ramp, while another sits in the shadow of the Meadow Vista overpass or thereabouts with his LIDAR and repeatedly drops the flag for the next-up patrol car to come out of the chute and pull over the next-up victim near the Dry Creek exit. Efficient, non-stop revenue collecting for hours on most days of the week, typically during the heaviest traffic hours of the morning and afternoon, but with Sunday afternoon returnees from Reno and Tahoe the most succulent of prey.
After some distillation, this report is quite valuable as intel, thanks for it there Ex Ski!

BTW, I always use a radar detector in CA. :unsure:

 
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