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I've seen these pictures linked to on another board because someone else's life was impacted because of this incident.

AnotherClicky

Makes one think
Thanks for the link.

Hey this is Jeff's son, he is in pretty bad shape, going to be in ICU for possibly 3 weeks.

Fractured skull around orbital area

Missing top 4 teeth

Lip split up to nose

Broken neck

Broken back (again)

2 collapsed lungs

Multiple ribs broken on both sides

Lacerated liver

Busted up kidney

Heaving bruising on right side

He is responsive only by movement of hands and a slight head nod. Thanks for all your thought and prayers!

This is why it's real hard for me to make fun of things like this. If this was my son or brother or father or friend then all the sudden it's not funny anymore. The guy target fixated on the wrong road at the wrong time and the results where horrible. I hope he makes it.

 
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There are other faceless peeps in here with "dignity" lost. :huh:
:lol:
https://www.fjrforum.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=143363&st=0 Yo odot, here is all you ever need to know about majicmaker and his "dignity"! jes' sayin' and nuff' said!

Brother Ray, this is the censored version of majicmaker's "dignity" (Iggy deleted the nasty ass original version!):

"Ok here goes, I got called to go to San Juan, Puerto Rico to X-ray the wings of a Cessna 402. 4 shots on the engine beams, Piece of cake. It took a few hours start to finish. I'm here now.

 

I decided to make a 4 day weekend out of it. I called Tattyana, a wonderful lady friend of mine here who is always glad to see me. Last night we got dressed up to go have a night on the town of Dancing and Drinking. Had the time of our lives!

 

It was a Taxi Night knowing that We were going to get back to the hotel Pretty drunk.

Got back to the hotel and we started Doing what two people do when they can't keep their hands off each other.

 

I remember her telling me that she felt frisky and asked me if she can try something new. I said SURE!. Well...... sometime after that I must have passed out. We're talking 4 in the morning by this point.

 

The next thing I remember is me waking up with her out like a light and sleeping like a baby. I'm hungover so bad that my eyeballs hurt when I blinked. Yeah!! That bad!!

 

I take a look around and what I saw on the bed is a little bottle of KY, A few tiny droplets of blood and a HUGE dildo. Now, with this wonderfully adventurous lady, those things in and of themselves didn't look out of place.

 

But, The problem is, I kinda sat up in the bed to get my bearings and I noticed that,

 

My ASSHOLE HURTS LIKE HELL AND FEELS LIKE IT'S ON FIRE!!!!!!!!

 

I'm wondering....... SHOULD I BE WORRIED?!?!

 

Thoughts?!"

 
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I wonder if the poor stupid dude on the bike will tell the investigating cop (about the Corvette), "I didn't see him"......

:blink:

Oh he saw him alright...he target fixated on it until he hit it. Too bad he ruined the corvett's day

 
I've seen these pictures linked to on another board because someone else's life was impacted because of this incident.

AnotherClicky

Makes one think
Thanks for the link.

Hey this is Jeff's son, he is in pretty bad shape, going to be in ICU for possibly 3 weeks.

Fractured skull around orbital area

Missing top 4 teeth

Lip split up to nose

Broken neck

Broken back (again)

2 collapsed lungs

Multiple ribs broken on both sides

Lacerated liver

Busted up kidney

Heaving bruising on right side

He is responsive only by movement of hands and a slight head nod. Thanks for all your thought and prayers!

This is why it's real hard for me to make fun of things like this. If this was my son or brother or father or friend then all the sudden it's not funny anymore. The guy target fixated on the wrong road at the wrong time and the results where horrible. I hope he makes it.
That was the poor guy that came later and slipped on the fluids this idiot left all over the road.

 
The Tail of the Dragon is not on my bucket list. These things seem to happen so much there. I ran across an article about the dragon from a sports-car test perspective. It does not seem like a very appealing place to be on a bike, the more I read about it. Check out the description below. Quote from the article:

"If you haven’t been on Tail of the Dragon in the last 15 years or so, you’ll find it’s like when your favorite little restaurant gets discovered and you can no longer get a table. Tail of the Dragon may not have jumped the shark yet, but Fonzie is sizing up the ramp. Nearly 500,000 vehicles a year traverse the little two-lane road where the speed limit is 30 mph. Since traffic declines considerably during the winter, the Tail is packed during the summer, even—as we found out—on weekdays."

https://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/car/2013-porsche-boxster-s

 
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Yep, this is what came too mind, I feel very bad for the guy, when I saw the first frame I knew he wouldn't make that turn, took that sucker at the wrong lane, he would have to end up under steering his ride very badly.

I also feel for the Corvette guy, cuz his ride is toast..... Had me myself a Corvette and that kind of impact will no Corvette take lightly.

At the first shot there was maybe 2 secs left to respond and there wasn't any room left.

I hope this rider will make it, from the list of injuries he suffered is scaringly long.... I hope he will recover and go back on to a bike.

"Godspeed" my prayers are with him... he has a long road ahead.

PS:

I think everybody had the WTF is this guy doing thought, seeing those pictures......

 
Fluids all over the road??? I didn't see anything to indicate that in the posted shots.

Maybe the wrecker dumped shit.

 
I've seen these pictures linked to on another board because someone else's life was impacted because of this incident.

AnotherClicky

Makes one think

Just to be clear...the severe injuries listed in posts above were to a later rider that happened upon the liquids left by this crash.

Seems that part of accident response would be to clean up the oils left on the scene by using solvents or something, then a water wash.

 
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I've seen these pictures linked to on another board because someone else's life was impacted because of this incident.

AnotherClicky

Makes one think

Just to be clear...the severe injuries listed in posts above were to a later rider that happened upon the liquids left by this crash.

Seems that part of accident response would be to clean up the oils left on the scene by using solvents or something, then a water wash.
That is correct Mark... a sportbike rider in Ky.

 
I've seen these pictures linked to on another board because someone else's life was impacted because of this incident.

AnotherClicky

Makes one think

Just to be clear...the severe injuries listed in posts above were to a later rider that happened upon the liquids left by this crash.

Seems that part of accident response would be to clean up the oils left on the scene by using solvents or something, then a water wash.
With you on the clean up deal Mark.

I would think on a stretch like the dragon where I'm pretty sure emergency personnel are far too familiar with stuff like this, Debris clean up would be at the top of the list.

I feel for the other guy who crashed. Maybe something was spilled after this wreck?

 
yeah, it's difficult to imagine that fluids from that wreck would sit there for 90 mins on the dragon.

There are so many cars and riders there, someone is going to stop and do something about it, before someone crashes.

It just doesn't make sense.

One thing to think about... say you're in the position of the corvette driver (in a car, on your bike, whatever). I think the odds are in your favor if you swerve in (not out, the way the vette did) to avoid the out of control motorcyclist. Hopefully no one is right behind the motorcyclist. But the reason I think that would be better is this: If a motorcyclist is coming around the corner and is about out of control... what are the odds they're going to recover and go back in their lane?

Pretty much zero imho. They wouldn't be out of control and heading straight for you if they could have recovered.

Now a car on the other hand, that's maybe more 50 / 50. but not a bike.

 
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yeah, it's difficult to imagine that fluids from that wreck would sit there for 90 mins on the dragon.

There are so many cars and riders there, someone is going to stop and do something about it, before someone crashes.

It just doesn't make sense.

One thing to think about... say you're in the position of the corvette driver (in a car, on your bike, whatever). I think the odds are in your favor if you swerve in (not out, the way the vette did) to avoid the out of control motorcyclist. Hopefully no one is right behind the motorcyclist. But the reason I think that would be better is this: If a motorcyclist is coming around the corner and is about out of control... what are the odds they're going to recover and go back in their lane?

Pretty much zero imho. They wouldn't be out of control and heading straight for you if they could have recovered.

Now a car on the other hand, that's maybe more 50 / 50. but not a bike.
Then again...lets just say in your scenario...you do swerve into "their lane" to avoid the accident...but this rider is up on his riding technique and recovers from his temporary "stare at the camera" stupidity..and smartly glides around the curve straight into your car...which is in "his lane".

The rider dies...or lives to be a vegetable for the next 40 years in intense medical care. You ask yourself over and over..."Why did I go in his fecking lane?!

You stay in your lane, he stays in his. If either of you break that rule...the one that breaks that rule pays.

 
Almost reminds me of what peeps do when they get bugs in their helmets....... :eek:
Frame 10.

Oh ****

Frame 11

Fucked.

 

I ask you -

ever entered a corner 'hot'

 

..ever seen the oncoming vehicle, knowing you were 'hot' into the corner?

 

....ever stood the the bike upright, while fixating on the car, then grenaded the brakes?

 

I have, but a long time ago.

 

Will admit, it takes year of reflexive muscle memory to simply toss the bike downward into the curve, no matter what the perceived speed and or fear factor. It's not easy, and I fully understand, comprehend, what happened to this rider.

 

My latest experiment?

Cornering while both ABS brakes are chattering.

 

Have you tried this? (ASSuming you have ABS)

If not, you're no better rider than this guy.

 

I'm still trying to learn this skill set, it scares the shit out of me.

Then again, this video scares the crap outta me.

 
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I ask you -

ever entered a corner 'hot'

 

..

 

....ever stood the the bike upright, while fixating on the car, then grenaded the brakes?

 
Just this summer, while returning home and running a back road in eastern OH, I was a bit overconfident in my abilities and overcooked a corner to the point where I scraped my right peg (had never done that before). Reflexes (not good ones) made me grab all the brake I could and stood the thing up straight, and crossed right over the center line into the oncoming lane. Not a car in sight, so there was no physical consequence and we continued on our way, but at the next stop I apologized to my wife (yes, I made this stupid mistake with my wife on board). I vowed never to make that mistake again and have dialed my riding style back until I can get some formal training (Lee Parks, track day, etc). Thankfully, my wife still trusts me and enjoys riding with me, but I shudder to think how I'd feel if I did something stupid and hurt her or anyone else. :sadsmiley:

 
yeah, it's difficult to imagine that fluids from that wreck would sit there for 90 mins on the dragon.

There are so many cars and riders there, someone is going to stop and do something about it, before someone crashes.

It just doesn't make sense.

One thing to think about... say you're in the position of the corvette driver (in a car, on your bike, whatever). I think the odds are in your favor if you swerve in (not out, the way the vette did) to avoid the out of control motorcyclist. Hopefully no one is right behind the motorcyclist. But the reason I think that would be better is this: If a motorcyclist is coming around the corner and is about out of control... what are the odds they're going to recover and go back in their lane?

Pretty much zero imho. They wouldn't be out of control and heading straight for you if they could have recovered.

Now a car on the other hand, that's maybe more 50 / 50. but not a bike.
Then again...lets just say in your scenario...you do swerve into "their lane" to avoid the accident...but this rider is up on his riding technique and recovers from his temporary "stare at the camera" stupidity..and smartly glides around the curve straight into your car...which is in "his lane".

The rider dies...or lives to be a vegetable for the next 40 years in intense medical care. You ask yourself over and over..."Why did I go in his fecking lane?!

You stay in your lane, he stays in his. If either of you break that rule...the one that breaks that rule pays.
Well the first thing, your analysis includes the rider "recovering from their stare at the camera stupidity". And for some, that may be the case. But I don't see it that way. I don't believe this person crashed because they were staring at the camera, I believe it was because they don't know how to ride.

To me, if you know how to ride, you know you don't stare at anything for very long, because if you do, you may not make the next corner.

So I'm saying it wasn't a simple OOPS, let me swerve back in where I'm suppose to be... it was more a I royally fucked up, and I knew this was inevitable because I've been coming close to it many times before now.

There's a difference between the two. But when the rider was leaned as far as he could go, as he was in the beginning of the turn... and he still couldn't get back in his lane... that's it, he's coming into you. Going to the right you won't avoid him, because he's out of control and isn't going to recover.

Don't mean to imply this is some easy thing to see. It's obviously not. But in a situation like this the vette (driver) has choices. Go left, go right, keep going ahead.

If ti's a bike coming the other way, and they've leaned as far as they can already... go left, your chances are better.

Yeah, you'll need some hair on those nuggets to make that choice, that's for sure.

 
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Spilled or poured. There have been many reports of the Dragon getting oiled by pranksters criminals.
FIFY

One thing to think about... say you're in the position of the corvette driver (in a car, on your bike, whatever). I think the odds are in your favor if you swerve in (not out, the way the vette did) to avoid the out of control motorcyclist. Hopefully no one is right behind the motorcyclist. But the reason I think that would be better is this: If a motorcyclist is coming around the corner and is about out of control... what are the odds they're going to recover and go back in their lane?
1. It's the dragon... OF COURSE there's someone right behind the bike. It's packed there. You can see the oncoming traffic behind the Vette.

2. Swerving into the other lane now puts you in a liability situation and a worse position to defend yourself in court.

3. This seems to be a textbook case of target fixation. He may have run wide while scraping the hell out of his floor boards but he freaked, locked in on the Vette and tracked it as it tried to give him more room.

 
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On my trip to Europe I know first hand what fluids on the road can do to you and your bike. I feel sad about the other rider going down.

The clean up crew on the dragon usually do a really great job on the road. I don't understand why there would have been anything there?

You should always treat that yellow line as never cross line. If you do, do it quickly.

 
One thing to think about... say you're in the position of the corvette driver (in a car, on your bike, whatever). I think the odds are in your favor if you swerve in (not out, the way the vette did) to avoid the out of control motorcyclist. Hopefully no one is right behind the motorcyclist. But the reason I think that would be better is this: If a motorcyclist is coming around the corner and is about out of control... what are the odds they're going to recover and go back in their lane?
Never cross over into opposing traffic. There is rarely enough time to think about what's the best way to avoid impending disaster. You have to rely on learned reaction and moving to the right as the other driver approaches from your left is the learned reaction. Also, if you do something that is not what other drivers expect, even if it seems like the better alternative, it can make the situation worse by drawing other vehicles into the mess. The only time you may not want to go to he right is on a multi-lane highway.

 
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