tire balance

[Auburn]

Here is the theory...www.innovativebalancing.com/HowItWorks.htm

It usually works very well....I'm trying to diagnose why I have an issue now. Too much or too little. Only an electronic balancer can tell me.

SO if I understand you correctly, you would rather chase whether you have too much or too little weight, when you can do a static balance which is proven and used in the highest levels of motorcycle racing every day verses messing with dyna beads which may or may not work if you get the right amount in. The static balance takes about a minute maybe two if it is your first time. It takes longer to clean the wheel then to do the balancing. After a minute, you will know if your tire is balanced or not, dyna beads, you have to go for a ride and then you may not know until you reach higher speeds.

Doesn't make sense to me. But it is your bike and your problem to deal with. I like to remove uncertainty when I do maintenance and repairs.

 

[redneckj]

Like Auburn said. Use what every pro motorcycle team uses. Static balance. Tried and proven. Watch this video and see if you want those beads in your tire.

 

[HotRodZilla]

A static balancer would tell you just fine how your balance is, bit not with those stupid beads in the tire.

If that theory is true, why not just out 4oz if Slime or Stan's in the tire? The liquid will have the same effect and provide some flat protection. I think we all know the answer to that.

 

[mcatrophy]

Because if it's electronic, it's gotta be more accurate.

And if it's digital, it must be absolutely accurate

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[Uncle Hud]

Because if it's electronic, it's gotta be more accurate.

And if it's digital, it must be absolutely accurate

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.... to as many significant digits as are on the display.

 

[timk]

Haven't had the dreaded cuppinng issue since the beads. They work. Semi trucks have used them for years.

 

[Denver_FJR]

Got a question for anyone with experience using Dynabeads in their tires. I just mounted a new set of PR4's on the bike. I seem to have a rumble at very high speeds that I didn't have before. Feels like the whole bike is shaking...not the steering. I'm trying to figure out if I just need to add a little more or what. I put 2 oz in front and 2 oz in the rear. Any opinions? TIA

Anyone with experience with Dynabeads? Nope, never heard of them.

SO if I understand you correctly, you would rather chase whether you have too much or too little weight, when you can do a static balance which is proven and used in the highest levels of motorcycle racing every day verses messing with dyna beads which may or may not work if you get the right amount in. The static balance takes about a minute maybe two if it is your first time. It takes longer to clean the wheel then to do the balancing. After a minute, you will know if your tire is balanced or not, dyna beads, you have to go for a ride and then you may not know until you reach higher speeds.

Are you daft man?!? Think of those unsightly lead weights on the wheel! And worse, you taint the environment with lead molecules every where you go!

There ought to be a law I tell you!

 

[Fred W]

Are you daft man?!? Think of those unsightly lead weights on the wheel! And worse, you taint the environment with lead molecules every where you go!

There ought to be a law I tell you!

There is, actually. Which is why wheel balance weights are no longer lead. They are made out of steel and weigh considerably less for the same size weight.

 

[Bungie]

I like this thread.

First, dynabeads pretty much stick into the soft nuget around the circumference of the tire. I've used them before. I've also not balanced the tire at all. Same result.

FJReady's tire balancer is the bomb. Funny this thread should come up. I had the front wheel on the CX650 off and just for ****'s and grins, hooked it up to the balancer. Man, you do NOT want to spin the tire while it's mounted to this balancer, well, unless you have about a week to wait for it to stop.

 

[Charlie Horse]

Like Auburn said. Use what every pro motorcycle team uses. Static balance. Tried and proven. Watch this video and see if you want those beads in your tire.

It's pretty obvious that there was a lot of moisture in the tire to cause that kind of clumping. Moisture in tires is bad in any case....beads or not.

 

[Fred W]

How does one mount a tire without getting moisture of some kind on the beads?

 

[Warpdrv]

Fred - stop asking the obviously silly questions.....

JUST SAY NO - to bean bag chair stuffing on your refined wonder of engineering....

Balance them for realz yo..... with weights and gravity

 

[FJReady]

I've mounted alot of tires over the years and the only way it works for me is with alot of tire lube. I slather that stuff on like I used to apply bain de soleil on my 17 year old girlfriend.

Never any ill effects from too much lube. And like Warpdrv says, you can't go wrong with with weights and gravity.

 

[wheatonFJR]

I'd put a darksider tire on before putting beanbag stuffing in my tars.

 

[Denver_FJR]

Like Auburn said. Use what every pro motorcycle team uses. Static balance. Tried and proven. Watch this video and see if you want those beads in your tire.

You could have that same problem with stick-on weights.

Oh, wait....

 

[DeSudet]

How does one mount a tire without getting moisture of some kind on the beads?

Lots of baby powder and black pants...

 

[Fred W]

****. Why did he stop the music? That killed the video. Except for the black yoga pants. I thought only wimmens wore those.

And it only took him 34 minutes to mount one stinkin' front tire... He's had practice.

So, good luck with the baby powder on the back FJR tire. Let us know how that works out for you.

 

[wheatonFJR]

****. Why did he kill the music? That killed the video. Except for the black yoga pants. I thought only wimmens wore those.
And it only took him 34 minutes to mount one stinkin' front tire... He's had practice.

So, good luck with the baby powder on the back FJR tire. Let us know how that works out for you.

PLUS....if he puts enough baby powder mass in the tire, it will self balance the tire.

 

[DeSudet]

Back on topic, I'm going to be having my shop get rid of the beads on my PR4 front and static balance it. I'm having the same issue as OP with a lot of vibration above 80. 2-car passes at 85-90 in a turn aren't really fun with the front end thumping under me. The grooves in the road are bad enough without that.

 

[Fred W]

To be clear, that will mean removing the tire (at least one of the beads) and wiping / scraping any clumped up beads out of the tire innards, then remounting.