Video Editing - To make cops look bad

[kulwen]

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So, I am watching this video sent to me this morning and something just seems weird. Why would a cop be so fired up so fast. I was starting to think he was a butt-head cop or was having a bad day. So I watch it 15-20 times. Then, I see a problem. At 3 min 5 seconds the passing SUV in the middle lane disappears and the car in the far lane changes into another car. Who ever edited this video was good and had to leave this glitch there on purpose. If the editor can make a car change to another car and one disappear slowly by fading away I'm sure the person could have removed them completely. I can't seem to find any errors early in the video to see if time was cut out, but I am sure there was since I can't see the cop getting that pissed off that fast.

Now, I wonder how many other videos out there make cops look bad really aren't what they seem. Has anyone here every caught videos like this have been edited before? Okay, this may be a stretch. Anyone seen videos that make women look bad drivers when they really aren't?

Please don't start bashing cops in the reply. I am interested in any video that looks real, but a editing flaw can be found. Or, can you find any edits early in this video? I am still trying to figure out if this was edited to make the cop look bad.

 

[brazos parker]

70 in a 65? Did I hear that correctly?

 

[kulwen]

Yes, I heard and saw the screen say 70 in a 65. But, if a whole SUV can disappear I don't trust the 70 in a 65.

 

[feejer222]

1. The cop is an *******

2. The cop stood with his back to the traffic on the edge of the carriageway...see 1.

 

[Fred W]

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So, I am watching this video sent to me this morning and something just seems weird. Why would a cop be so fired up so fast. I was starting to think he was a butt-head cop or was having a bad day. So I watch it 15-20 times. Then, I see a problem. At 3 min 5 seconds the passing SUV in the middle lane disappears and the car in the far lane changes into another car. Who ever edited this video was good and had to leave this glitch there on purpose. If the editor can make a car change to another car and one disappear slowly by fading away I'm sure the person could have removed them completely. I can't seem to find any errors early in the video to see if time was cut out, but I am sure there was since I can't see the cop getting that pissed off that fast.

Now, I wonder how many other videos out there make cops look bad really aren't what they seem. Has anyone here every caught videos like this have been edited before? Okay, this may be a stretch. Anyone seen videos that make women look bad drivers when they really aren't?

Please don't start bashing cops in the reply. I am interested in any video that looks real, but a editing flaw can be found. Or, can you find any edits early in this video? I am still trying to figure out if this was edited to make the cop look bad.

They also would have had to edit the over-layed texts for the clock as there were no apparent gaps

 

[ponyfool]

Two things. One is, the timer on the video also changes at the same time. I'm guessing it's more to weed out dead space than anything else.

I love though that everyone is stuck on the 70 in a 65. No plate to the rear is another violation too.

The cop may well be an *******, but he is explaining the reason for the stop, and asking her for the information he needs. She refuses. He escalates his request for the information. The driver isn't recognizing that she is being stopped by a cop who is demanding her license and information. She apparently forgets that, by law, she is required to provide it regardless of how much of an ******* she thinks he is, or how much she thinks she has a right to argue with him. The "Whoa, whoa, whoa" part obviously set off the cop (not professional IMO). However, when the passenger says, "Give him the license" she says, "No". She doesn't have that right, no matter how much TV she watches telling her otherwise. He tells her, give me your license and insurance or get out of the car. She has options. She isn't choosing them.

He tells her to get out of the vehicle, something she is required to do by law when she fails to present her license. He tells her to move to the back of the vehicle and shows her the way. She actively resists. They are on the side of a busy highway. The officer and the violator have very different perspectives. She may well not be the type to want to push him into traffic, but he can't know that, and in fact, her actions and resistance are telling him she is that type.

He gave her warnings, she refuses to heed them. She continues to want to argue. Not smart.

Summary: I wouldn't have behaved that way in that I would have been more calm in my explanations, but if she behaved that way with me and resisted everything I was ordering her to do, I'd have tased her too if my calm attempts to get her to comply weren't successful. One push is all it takes, and you're squished like a bug by one of those cars. Not the time to be arguing.

I don't think the video was edited to make the cop look bad. I think he did that on his own.

 

[kulwen]

Two things. One is, the timer on the video also changes at the same time. I'm guessing it's more to weed out dead space than anything else.

I first thought it was just to trim the video down. But, a co-worker mentioned why take the effort to fade the SUV and perfect time it so the car changed if it was simply just to cut time.

I just don't know. I for some reason don't trust the video.

 

[03silverbullet]

Cop is a total *******. He didn't give her enough time to get her linc., ins., and registration.

How is it that he felt so threaten that he need to taze her?

All this over a very minor traffic stop.

 

[RRA]

That's the second vid I've seen this month were a LEO tazes someone in less than a minute. I find it very disturbing that some cops resort to violence sooo quickly and for what, a speeding ticket?. Don't be surprised when the public starts fighting back in kind.

RRA

 

[Fencer]

I don't think the video was edited to make the cop look bad. I think he did that on his own.

Agree with everthing the fool said :lol:

Also another edit at 4:27 - 35 seconds cut

watch the time counter.

He was a little overzealous in his duty IMO.

 

[brazos parker]

70 in a 65?

I posted that as a rhetorical question because I don't believe the officer stopped her for 70 in a 65. I think, rightly or wrongly, there was another agenda at work here...and, we'll never know.

 

[kulwen]

70 in a 65?

I posted that as a rhetorical question because I don't believe the officer stopped her for 70 in a 65. I think, rightly or wrongly, there was another agenda at work here...and, we'll never know.

I understand now, I guess I am a bit slow.

 

[madmike2]

I love though that everyone is stuck on the 70 in a 65. No plate to the rear is another violation too.

Which he clearly states...that she has a plate on the front and not one on the rear.

The cop may well be an *******, but he is explaining the reason for the stop, and asking her for the information he needs. She refuses. He escalates his request for the information. The driver isn't recognizing that she is being stopped by a cop who is demanding her license and information. She apparently forgets that, by law, she is required to provide it regardless of how much of an ******* she thinks he is, or how much she thinks she has a right to argue with him. The "Whoa, whoa, whoa" part obviously set off the cop (not professional IMO). However, when the passenger says, "Give him the license" she says, "No". She doesn't have that right, no matter how much TV she watches telling her otherwise. He tells her, give me your license and insurance or get out of the car. She has options. She isn't choosing them.

And she is definitely combatitive. She is used to arguing HER way. She never stops denying and talking back, trying to take charge.

He tells her to get out of the vehicle, something she is required to do by law when she fails to present her license. He tells her to move to the back of the vehicle and shows her the way. She actively resists. They are on the side of a busy highway. The officer and the violator have very different perspectives. She may well not be the type to want to push him into traffic, but he can't know that, and in fact, her actions and resistance are telling him she is that type.

I read these before I watched the video. When she starts to the back of the car she stops and spins around to face him. TO ME...that appeared a bit aggressive and I wondered if she was going to push him. She was NOT going to do what she was told without an argument about every detail.

He gave her warnings, she refuses to heed them. She continues to want to argue. Not smart.
Summary: I wouldn't have behaved that way in that I would have been more calm in my explanations, but if she behaved that way with me and resisted everything I was ordering her to do, I'd have tased her too if my calm attempts to get her to comply weren't successful. One push is all it takes, and you're squished like a bug by one of those cars. Not the time to be arguing.

I don't think the video was edited to make the cop look bad. I think he did that on his own.

Sorry guys, I think he could have given her some leeway, but it seems to me she did everything she could to arouse his suspicion. In court you may be innocent until proven guilty, but in the real world, you are a suspect and every attitude and your demeanor affects an officers perception of the situation.

He told her "70 in a 65", but he included "there's no plate on the back". I've watched the CHP work traffic here in Sacramento. They will quickly pull a car over for expired tags and missing license plates. Notice that after she is tased and laying on the ground her "tone" and speech patterns change? Then she begins to talk about her "friends on the department and plays the "race card".

Yep, he's a jerk. When pulled over by an officer, do what you're told and legally bound to do: show your license, registration and proof of insurance. Had she complied this wouldn't have happened. I've an acquainteance who's a CHP officer who was jumped by a citizen in this same circumstance. The guy grabbed for my friend's weapon while they were on the ground. Nightstick to the rescue... While I think the officer could have handled this with more discretion, they are not treated politely and with respect and with his worry-meter up because of her refusal to obey and the missing license plate.......

It'll be under review and he'll likely get a letter in his file if not more. Too bad. I'll bet if fhe could he'd go back and do it differently. I wonder if she would? Do you think she made Thanksgiving dinner on time?

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[PDsgt]

The Fool is so right on target with this one.

I didn't want to even read the thread based on the description, nor did I want to watch the video. But of course I can't stop myself from defending other cops. I would agree there are some issues here, but think about it this way.

He utilized a tool that immediately stopped any sort of physical confrontation on a very FAST and BUSY highway. Not sure how many of you have ever stood next to traffic buzzing by you at 70+ mph, only inches away. It is not the least bit fun. General public just doesn't merge left when they can in these instances, putting officers at risk of being killed.

Now he used a Taser. Keep in mind that Taser is non-lethal (regardless of all the crap you read and see.) It typically last about 5 seconds. No permanent damage or long lasting effects. I have been tasered on more than one occasion. Yes for 5 seconds, and yes with the probes stuck in my skin. It sucks while it happens and I don't look forward to it, nor do I enjoy it, but it is not long term and is the safest way to deal with any situation that may get physical.

If this guy wrestles with the girl, he or she could easily be pushed out into the path of that 70mph Suv. Guess who wins that battle. If he grabs her and tries to put her into an armbar, or tries to handcuff her and she resists, she or he may be injured permanently by these actions (another lawsuit). A Taser has no long term effects. They are better used than any type of spray, or any other blunt object, like a baton.

So IMHO he is gruff, not real proffessional, but in the end, she is not really injured, nor is he and everyone gets to go home and see their loved ones, and thats the bottom line.

Before you judge this guy to hard, remember you only see a couple minutes of a possibly edited video. You have no real idea about what really happened her.

Sorry to rant and rave, but just my .02. Thank you and good night.

P.S. And besides, this guy rides an FJR to work everyday!

 

[evil_henchman]

If they aren't married they should be. They desreve each other. Did anybody else notice the post orgasmic tone of voice he used after he shot his load taser? What a tool.

Seems like I heard a joke once that went something like:

Texas Judge: Why did you shoot your wife?

Defendant: She just wouldn't listen.

Judge: Case Dismissed!

 

[MrTwisty]

I agree that the lady should have been more cooperative, but 0 to tazered in 48 seconds? Come on!

What if she had fallen uncontrollably into traffic?

 

[PDsgt]

I agree that the lady should have been more cooperative, but 0 to tazered in 48 seconds? Come on! What if she had fallen uncontrollably into traffic?

Doesn't really work like that. Having been tasered multiple times, I have never fallen uncontrollably.

 

[SkooterG]

Yikes!

That copper needs a few days off without pay so he can have the opportunity to think about how he totally ****** up that stop. As far as I am concerned, HE escalated the whole contact into one ugly mess. Sure she was being a pain in the ***, but guess what? That happens all the time. He didn't really give her the opportunity to comply, going off the handle right away.

Hope I never run into ann ******* like him. Oh wait, I did, back in May. ******* CHP. Good thing I was a good little boy, even though he treated me like a criminal.

 

[ponyfool]

How is it that he felt so threaten that he need to taze her?
All this over a very minor traffic stop.

See, here's where I'll argue all day long with you. The Tasing has NOTHING to do with the minor traffic stop. See below the next quote for my explanation.

That's the second vid I've seen this month were a LEO tazes someone in less than a minute. I find it very disturbing that some cops resort to violence sooo quickly and for what, a speeding ticket?.

Violence? WTF do you call her slapping his hand away from her when he is giving both verbal and physical direction? Would you prefer he go hands on and have a physical confrontation? Because that is exactly what the public has said they DON'T want! Do you honestly believe with what you saw she would be any more compliant if he went hands on? Do you honestly believe she would start listening to him? He is giving her instruction throughout the entire video. She is refusing that instruction and is both verbally and physically resisting EVERYTHING he is telling her and attempting to make her do.

And, for the record, he doesn't have to be threatened to Taser her (granted, every department has different rules). Most departments allow the use of the Taser when the person shows an intent to use physical resistance. She is clearly doing that. If you don't think so, let me ask you this: Does he have the right to push her hand away and physically turn her around after she has already slapped his hand? If you answered yes, he is IN COMPLIANCE with the use of a Taser.

Don't be surprised when the public starts fighting back in kind.

I'd love to hear the rationale behind this. He has a lawful duty to do what he is doing. She has a lawful duty to comply. She isn't. Would you prefer he just say, "OK, you're right, sorry to disturb" and just leave? Look again 45 seconds into it what she does.

I agree that the lady should have been more cooperative, but 0 to tazered in 48 seconds? Come on!

So, how long does it take for the tables to get turned and someone who is resisting becomes violent? How long do you want the cops in your neighborhood being pushed around before finally taking control? By the way, how many times did he ask for the license and insurance? I counted 5. How many should he have to ask?

Now, I'll remind you, I think he's a ****, no doubt about it. He is complacent and unprofessional. But, that doesn't make his use of the Taser wrong. It just makes him a **** and unprofessional. In my department, that would get addressed, no question. I don't know about his.

Now, if you want to make an argument that his aggressive demeanor caused the situation to get amped up and perhaps cause her to react in a way she wouldn't otherwise react. I'll buy that. But I won't buy it to the point that a person stopped by the police thinks they have a right to dictate how the contact is going to occur. Like it or not, the cop is in charge. That's the way the law says it should be, and that's the way it is. While I do know that I would have handled this situation differently and likely would not have ended up Tasing her, don't think for a second that this is about a traffic violation. This is about a citizen's improper belief that she could change the rules out on the street and a cop (albeit a ****) who isn't going to let her turn the tables. You don't have to like it, but every cop in the country is taught to maintain control of a stop for fear of what could happen. I can show you dozens of videos of cops getting killed by the most unlikely suspects all "because of a traffic violation."