What to look for ?

[TheZsdad]

First off I have never had a blke with all the plastic on it. Been riding cruisers for the last 3 yrs.

I am planning to travel to another state to check out a used GEN II very low mileage.

The price is decent if it needs nothing but seller admits to dropping it twice and having it repaired.

Dropped once in his garage and once at a stop light. Should I be concerned about damage I can't

see under the plastic ? Anything I should look for that would not be obvious ? I am thinking of making

a lower offer just to cover myself from some hidden problem. Also what $ amount might cover a hidden problem ?

09 W/1800 miles.

Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.

TheZsdad

 

[Patriot]

if "dropped" means from a stop tipover, no problem with that IMHO

If "dropped" means crashed, then that's another issue, but many here have crashed with sliders and no issue

post up the ad or pics or whatever info you have and let us take a look at what you are looking at

I purchased my '04 with drop/crash damage, no sliders, and a slightly bent brake pedal which is still there, but no issue

Both side bags are scuffed which I think was a good thing cause I was able to convince seller to drop the price from advertised.

let's ride safe and be careful out there,

Mike in Nawlins'

 

[Patriot]

deleted...double posted by mistake like a dunderhead/*****, but then that's me

 

[07FJRSD]

Those kind drops are mostly cosmetic, bags,bars and mirrors. If you can't see it now it's been properly repaired and ussually not an issue.

 

[FJR-RemingtonRider]

Prob best way to decide is to talk face to face with owner as he described his bike.

09' low miles, 2 drops, probably means it's a great deal...did I miss what he was asking $$$?

Since the 2010's are not much different, the price of the 09's are not going to be that far off.

Since he has paid to have it fixed, just look at the records of the repair (receipt and estimate write-ups)...that in itself tells you pretty much he takes care of his stuff, not to just ride a newly scuffed up bike. Also, if was that new; usually full coverage insurance and they would probably look at it closely before authorizing any repairs. Just depends on who paid for what concerning the damages getting fixed. If he doesn't have the docs to prove his story, surely where ever he had it fixed will still have a computerized write up of what was fixed and what was not.

Good luck...Check KBB, as a reference for $$$.

 

[fljab]

The price is decent if it needs nothing but seller admits to dropping it twice and having it repaired.Dropped once in his garage and once at a stop light. <snip>

I just replaced most of the right side stuff on my '09A after hitting a Florida wild pig and spent $1000 easy (my deductible) even after shopping around online for the best deals. I did get ~25% off to my door from Waynesville Cycle online

https://www.carolinacycle.com/fiche_select1...&mfg=yamaha

Not affiliated, just a satisfied customer.

Anyway, the point is that if anything needs replacing it can run up costs quickly! Simple fallovers shouldn't have hurt anything important structurally, but you need to make sure all the fasteners are correct and attached OK, look for any scrapes or cracks in the plastic, and dings on the muffler esp the backside. My right side can didn't look bad on the outer side, but it was really caved in on the inner side. Granted, mine was a rolling hit, but it had lots of hidden damage; look carefully and ask for repair lists/invoices.

Other than that, I wouldn't be afraid of a "dropped" bike like you describe but buyer beware and all that.

 

[ionbeam]

Zero mph tip-overs will leave a mark but do no real damage.

Look at the bottom of the stator cover, look at the lower part of the exhaust cans and step back and look at the mirrors -- are they symmetrical? Sometimes a tip-over can tweak the sub frame in the nose. If the mirrors are not symmetrical flip out, tell the seller that the front sub frame is bent (true) and demand a significant discount. Then, when you get your new FJR home, read in this Forum how to bend the mirror sub frame back into place with a simple tool

 

[TheZsdad]

if "dropped" means from a stop tipover, no problem with that IMHO
If "dropped" means crashed, then that's another issue, but many here have crashed with sliders and no issue

post up the ad or pics or whatever info you have and let us take a look at what you are looking at

I purchased my '04 with drop/crash damage, no sliders, and a slightly bent brake pedal which is still there, but no issue

Both side bags are scuffed which I think was a good thing cause I was able to convince seller to drop the price from advertised.

let's ride safe and be careful out there,

Mike in Nawlins'

Seller promises both drops were tipovers. Both times on the right side. The first time he had the dealer replace a panel of the fairing and the mirror. 2nd time he took off parts of the fairing himself and had a local painter order yamaha paint and spray

it. Also replaced the mirror that time as well. Did mention a slight ding in the muffler. The bags were not on the bike either time he dropped it.

 

[TheZsdad]

Those kind drops are mostly cosmetic, bags,bars and mirrors. If you can't see it now it's been properly repaired and ussually not an issue.

Thanks for the reply. I guess my concern is the drops/tipovers were more serious than he is saying.

 

[TheZsdad]

Prob best way to decide is to talk face to face with owner as he described his bike. 09' low miles, 2 drops, probably means it's a great deal...did I miss what he was asking $$$?

Since the 2010's are not much different, the price of the 09's are not going to be that far off.

Since he has paid to have it fixed, just look at the records of the repair (receipt and estimate write-ups)...that in itself tells you pretty much he takes care of his stuff, not to just ride a newly scuffed up bike. Also, if was that new; usually full coverage insurance and they would probably look at it closely before authorizing any repairs. Just depends on who paid for what concerning the damages getting fixed. If he doesn't have the docs to prove his story, surely where ever he had it fixed will still have a computerized write up of what was fixed and what was not.

Good luck...Check KBB, as a reference for $$$.

He is asking $10,700. No farkles, no long term Y.E.S. but maybe eligible.

I'll ask to see the repair bills.

 

[TheZsdad]

crap, how do I delete this one ?

 

[TheZsdad]

Zero mph tip-overs will leave a mark but do no real damage.
Look at the bottom of the stator cover, look at the lower part of the exhaust cans and step back and look at the mirrors -- are they symmetrical? Sometimes a tip-over can tweak the sub frame in the nose. If the mirrors are not symmetrical flip out, tell the seller that the front sub frame is bent (true) and demand a significant discount. Then, when you get your new FJR home, read in this Forum how to bend the mirror sub frame back into place with a simple tool

"If the mirrors are not symmetrical flip out, tell the seller that the front sub frame is bent (true) and demand a significant discount."

Dang now I'm hoping the mirrors are asymmetrical. I can do flip out. lol

Hope the seller is not reading this.

 

[TheZsdad]

The price is decent if it needs nothing but seller admits to dropping it twice and having it repaired.Dropped once in his garage and once at a stop light. <snip>

I just replaced most of the right side stuff on my '09A after hitting a Florida wild pig and spent $1000 easy (my deductible) even after shopping around online for the best deals. I did get ~25% off to my door from Waynesville Cycle online

https://www.carolinacycle.com/fiche_select1...&mfg=yamaha

Not affiliated, just a satisfied customer.

Anyway, the point is that if anything needs replacing it can run up costs quickly! Simple fallovers shouldn't have hurt anything important structurally, but you need to make sure all the fasteners are correct and attached OK, look for any scrapes or cracks in the plastic, and dings on the muffler esp the backside. My right side can didn't look bad on the outer side, but it was really caved in on the inner side. Granted, mine was a rolling hit, but it had lots of hidden damage; look carefully and ask for repair lists/invoices.

Other than that, I wouldn't be afraid of a "dropped" bike like you describe but buyer beware and all that.

fljab how did the wild pig make out ? Just cosmetic or was he totaled ?

Thanks for the link. I'll be checking the backside of the can.

 

[fljab]

fljab how did the wild pig make out ? Just cosmetic or was he totaled ?

Thanks for the link. I'll be checking the backside of the can.

The pig didn't make it. I work nights and had to work an extra 4 hrs so was coming home through the swamp ~0330 hrs. Speed ~55, brights on running middle of the road (no other traffic). Pig was on right side of road facing away and I did not see him until I was nearly on it; it's a cliche, but it seemed like "slow motion" - he turned toward the road and started across. I didn't have time to do crap except I did move abit to the left and that saved from hitting with the wheel.

Pig hit RF fork, plastic, my leg, then saddlebag with his head. Bike stayed up and I stopped some bit of distance ahead. After I calmed down, I turned around and went back and didn't see FJR parts or the pig in the road, so headed back where I was going originally and stopped a few miles up to the first place that had light to look at the damage. At that point I realized I had lost the saddlebag, front end was pushed back, and all the plastic on that side was loose.

I rode it ~10 miles on home, woke up the wife and we went back out in my van while still dark to look for the saddlebag (full of riding gear); no luck. Came back again at first light and found the pig in perpetual sleep in the ditch and my saddlebag a little bit farther down.

Took me ~6 weeks getting everything fixed between what I did myself, the dealer, and having insurance involved.

Wanna know the kicker? Bike had 54 miles on it, I had just bought it, and was the first time I had ridden it to work. Figure all the bad luck is out of it now. On the bright side, I didn't go down and didn't get hurt, so it coulda been worse...

 

[TheZsdad]

The pig didn't make it. I work nights and had to work an extra 4 hrs so was coming home through the swamp ~0330 hrs. Speed ~55, brights on running middle of the road (no other traffic). Pig was on right side of road facing away and I did not see him until I was nearly on it; it's a cliche, but it seemed like "slow motion" - he turned toward the road and started across. I didn't have time to do crap except I did move abit to the left and that saved from hitting with the wheel.

Pig hit RF fork, plastic, my leg, then saddlebag with his head. Bike stayed up and I stopped some bit of distance ahead. After I calmed down, I turned around and went back and didn't see FJR parts or the pig in the road, so headed back where I was going originally and stopped a few miles up to the first place that had light to look at the damage. At that point I realized I had lost the saddlebag, front end was pushed back, and all the plastic on that side was loose.

I rode it ~10 miles on home, woke up the wife and we went back out in my van while still dark to look for the saddlebag (full of riding gear); no luck. Came back again at first light and found the pig in perpetual sleep in the ditch and my saddlebag a little bit farther down.

Took me ~6 weeks getting everything fixed between what I did myself, the dealer, and having insurance involved.

Wanna know the kicker? Bike had 54 miles on it, I had just bought it, and was the first time I had ridden it to work. Figure all the bad luck is out of it now. On the bright side, I didn't go down and didn't get hurt, so it coulda been worse...

You're right it could have been much worse. Sounds like your angel was riding with you.