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OK! I have a SWEET DUTY Story. My first 4 years was on the USS Midway keeping 17 Broke-Dick A-7E's in the air 12on 12off 24/7. The 12/12 was when there was nothing to do. Which was NEVER!!! There was so much work to do that it averaged 14-18 hour days. Put a gut bomb in your stomach, Shower, Sleep 4 hours and Repeat! It was a Biatch!! That is what was called Level 1 Maintenance.

When I Re-Up'd I had all the Aces in my hand. I told them to Send me to A.I.M.D. (Aircraft Intermediate Maintenace Dept.) Component Repair in Roosevelt Roads Naval Station in Puerto Rico. That's where all the Broken and Leaking stuff got sent for Repair and Overhaul. 9-5 Mon-Fri. Add to that the fact that the Dept. operated on a 6 section duty cycle. 300 people in the Dept. meant that each section had 50 people in it. Everybody had to Muster at 0800 to show your faces. At 0801 you heard the sweetest 5 words in the world! "Secure Down to Duty Section". That meant that you had to man your shop only once every 6 days. That was a whole lot of Swinging on a Hammock on the beach sucking down Pina Coladas and Non stop BBQ looking at scantily clad HM's from the Base Hospital that was a Gigantic Regional Medical Center for the Southern Command.

Yes Boys! That was like Dieing and Going to Heaven! (Except for a Brief Interuption to be the Staging Base for the Big Can of Whop Ass we opened up on Granada). :)

 
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US Navy 1978-1982 Electronics Tech

USS Kinkaid DD-965 San Diego

Shellback, Twidget, Tin Can Sailor, Radar Shack, Crypto Comm., Wespac, Subic Bay...Mojo, San Miguel beer, thai stick, clap, penicillin, liberty, planeguarding, watch, pesky ruskies, haze grey underway, thai stick, Oz and New Zealand, UCMJ, Pusan, Balut, Articles 15,86,92 etc....coroframs, brig, Nippon, TACAN, IFF, monkey meat, SP beer, NJP, EM club, and thai stick...thats all i remember...maybe...

Bobby

 
I was an Electronic Warfare Officer in the Air Force for 20 years.

I had a lot of fun living all over the world and doing a number of interesting jobs.

Probably the best assignment I had was as an EF-111A EWO in England. Here is a little video from those days:

https://youtu.be/yzBzDSPXg5E

 
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US Navy 1978-1982 Electronics Tech

USS Kinkaid DD-965 San Diego

Shellback, Twidget, Tin Can Sailor, Radar Shack, Crypto Comm., Wespac, Subic Bay...Mojo, San Miguel beer, thai stick, clap, penicillin, liberty, planeguarding, watch, pesky ruskies, haze grey underway, thai stick, Oz and New Zealand, UCMJ, Pusan, Balut, Articles 15,86,92 etc....coroframs, brig, Nippon, TACAN, IFF, monkey meat, SP beer, NJP, EM club, and thai stick...thats all i remember...maybe...

Bobby
That was hilarious. Brought back a lot of stuff I had forgotten. Some good, some better off left forgotten! :lol:

 
USN 12/'77-'82 ETN1 East coast sailor, surface fleet. Made a couple of 6 month Med Cruises and a whole lot of Caribbean Ops (that wasn't hard to take) stationed out of Nofuck, VA. But nothing that I did while in the Navy compares to my experience of enlistment:

After graduating from high school (barely), and working some BS jobs for a while, I'd had a little trouble with the law. Something to do with cars, and speed limits that we couldn't seem to see eye to eye on. On my second trip to see the judge, my lawyer thought it wouldn't be such a bad idea if he could tell the judge that I was going away soon to serve my country in the military. I was still only 19, just screwing off for the most part and had no real direction in life, so I decided, why not? It couldn't be too bad. And since I always like McHale's Navy, the USN it would be. Anchors away!

When I went to the local recruiter's office they had me fill out all of the forms and we discussed what sort of rating (ie occupation) I'd be interested in. Since I had been a total gear head all of my (short) adult life thus far I figured I'd be a shoe in as an aviation machinist mate. Fine, fine... they said. We'll get you a seat in that school and you'll be assigned to one of those floating cities known as aircraft carriers for three years.

Then they made arrangements for me to come back another day to take the ASVAB test. The test scores came back and they assured me, no problem getting into Aviation MM school, we've got you a seat. But it would be a delayed enlistment, so I was to go back home and come back the week between Christmas and New Year to go to the Induction Center in Boston.

On the assigned day we were carted into Boston by the local recruiter, and joined up with all the other new recruits from the Boston area to go through the induction procedure. More paperwork, bunch of physical tests and checks (turn your head and cough. Great... now bend over! Whoa!) a couple of hours worth of this and that. After all of this, while we were all waiting to be brought to Logan airport, and flown off to boot camp in Orlando, one of the Waltham recruiters comes out and calls my name.

"Here!"

"Come with me..."

He takes me back into some dark, quiet office where they closed the door, and sat me down in front of the desk of some other bigwig recruiter guy that I'd never met before. After a few pleasantries discussing how I'd enjoyed the induction so far, he says, "I have some bad news for you. I'm afraid that the seat we had reserved for you in Aviation MM A school is no longer available. So, your options are, you can either choose a different rating today or you can just go on back home.

Well, I had already been through the whole scene of saying good-bye to everyone back home, and by this time I already had it set in my mind that enlistment was a great idea. And no doubt, these guys knew it too. It was about this time that the senior recruiter opened his desk drawer and pulled out a bottle of Four Roses Whiskey and a couple of glasses. I'll never forget that bottle or the brand, even though I can't say that I've ever seen it since.

So they poured me a nice stiff shot and told me how I had scored so highly in my entrance exams that I was qualified for one of the more "advanced" ratings, which would entitle me to more advanced training. And after completing the training I would graduate as a 3rd class Petty Officer (E-4) instead of just a Seaman (E-3). How would I like to become a Nuclear Propulsion Machinist Mate?

Whaa? Nuclear? Ummm... Hmmm. No, no, that won't do at all. I don't want to glow at night. I won't have anything to do with that, thanks.

Well then, how about an Electronics Technician. Same great deal, but you'd be working on radios and radars and stuff like that there.

Hmmm, thinks I. That sounds a bit more up my alley. Perhaps another little taste of that 4 roses then eh? And the deal was struck. The little piece of info they only laid on me as I was inking the agreement was that to get all this advanced stuff I would have to agree to a 4 year enlistment (instead of 3) plus a 2 year automatic extension up front. In other words a total of 6 years.

But don't worry. When you get to ET school if you change your mind you can just tell them then and you'll just do the "A" school, no advanced training, and you'll be a E-3 on graduation, and they will cancel the extra 2 years extension. (I found out later that this was a total fabrication and there was no opportunity to back out.)

So that is the story of how I got shanghaied in Boston into a 6 year stint in the USN. In retrospect, those guys did me a huge favor. The military was exactly what I needed in my life at that point and I was highly successful for the 6 years of enlistment. It has also turned into a career in Electronics that I would never have seen had I continued on my youthful path of dereliction.

Wish I knew their names. I'd like to send those guys a bottle of Four Roses! :p

 
Great Story Fred, that's almost what happened to me (Kinda/Sorta). I went to join because I saw one too many Top Gun Movies and didn't want to live the rest of my life without seeing what an Aircraft Carrier was like. They said: You're kinda old to be joining now. (22years old). What have you been doing. I told them that I was a Graduate of Aviation High School in Long Island City, in Queens and I'm an A&P Mechanic and have been turning wrenches and hammering metal in an outfit at LeGuardia Airport for the last 4 years. He said Really? I said Yes!

He then went in his desk and whipped out a DPEP Manual. (Direct Procurement Enlistment Program). It was designed for construction workers who knew there shit to be able to join and get some rank for all that they knew. Depending on your age and experience, you can get up to E-6 right out of boot camp. My A&P and the four years turning wrenches qualified for E-5 but I needed to be 23 to get the E-5. You can join now and get E-4 or wait for them to get me an age waiver. Thank god I had all sorts of ex Navy buddies at home. I told them about my situation and everyone of them said: WAIT FOR THE WAIVER!!! They said that in the Navy, the difference between E4 & E5 was night and day. So I waited about 6 weeks and the waiver got approved. :yahoo:

Then like you I show up at the Brooklyn armory to say my I DO's and like you my name got called out and I'm thinking, Damn! What didn't I tell these guys that I should've. :unsure: They gave me the same story about my ASVAB scores being really high and I can walk right in to the nuclear program. This is going to be the deal of a lifetime for you. After about 5 seconds of thinking about it. I said: Ummmmm..... Does that still come with the rank of E-5? He said No! I said: No Thank You!! And I got on the Train heading for Orlando. Being from NY, my boot camp was supposed to be Great Lakes but, my ex Navy buddies told me that I had all the aces and to tell my recruiter that I wanted to go to Orlando. If he said No! Tell him your joining the Airforce. It Worked!! There were about 50 of us that got put on a bus to Penn Station. 49 boarded the westbound to IL. I boarded the southbound to FL. Did you read my post about getting laid in boot camp?! That's how I got there!! :clapping: God Bless America!!!! :lol:

Oh! And P.S. that story about your school not being available was absolute Bull Pucky!! They want to fill all those nuclear billits that they could with the best and the brightest. I've befriended many recruiters since then and they all told me they were as ruthless as used car salesmen to get good Evals!!

 
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Oh! And P.S. that story about your school not being available was absolute Bull Pucky!! They want to fill all those nuclear billits that they could with the best and the brightest. I've befriended many recruiters since then and they all told me they were as ruthless as used car salesmen to get good Evals!!
Oh believe me, I knew even at the time what was happening. The scene in that office was like something out of "Cinderella Liberty." But the deal sounded good and I wanted in. Like I said, it all turned out for the best for me.

 
Navy '84-'93, SM1, East coast, plankowner USS Hawes (FFG 53), Partial Med cruise diverted to Persian Gulf in '87, USS Jesse L. Brown (FF 1089), UNITAS cruise, Recruiter Cadillac, Mi, Recruiter-in-Charge Ludington, Mi.

As a recruiter I didn't lie to applicants, I lied to the Navy (hey, look kid, if you want to be in my Navy you need to forget about that bee sting allergy).

 
Navy '84-'93, SM1, East coast, plankowner USS Hawes (FFG 53), Partial Med cruise diverted to Persian Gulf in '87, USS Jesse L. Brown (FF 1089), UNITAS cruise, Recruiter Cadillac, Mi, Recruiter-in-Charge Ludington, Mi.

As a recruiter I didn't lie to applicants, I lied to the Navy (hey, look kid, if you want to be in my Navy you need to forget about that bee sting allergy).
Perry Class Frigate...very cool with all that aluminium and those gas turbines (if I remember correctly)

a few of my airdale rotating wing collegues have mentioned the "thrill" of landing on that, ah, "compact" helipad !!!

 
I'm still working for the Navy in the Wing I once flew for.

All the branches are decreasing forces at a rate not seen since the end of the Cold War era.

I have guys being sent home with about 8-15 years of service while they are mid enlistment contract. Not because they did anything wrong, but because they are in fields that are over manned. Those with less than 15 years get a one time payment that would equate to less than 2 years of pension pay. Those with 15+ years are typically being approved for "early pension" which is another screw job when compared to the 20 year 50% high three.

The Sailors are selected from rates the Navy failed to manage properly and are now over populated. The sailors where asked (before it was determined who who be given the boot) to retrain into another rate. If you decided to ride it out, and where later selected for ERB (enlisted retention board), the offer to retrain no longer exists... You're gone.

A friend of mine with 14 years of service (a great sailor with one recent minor ding on his record), was ERB with 3 years remaining on this enlistment contract. He had already passed his GI bill along to his son a few years prior not knowing what was about to happen to him...

In 1992 Admiral Borda was forced with the same type of requirements. He managed to do it without breaking any contracts. Then again, he was also a prior enlisted not a politician.

 
Oh! And P.S. that story about your school not being available was absolute Bull Pucky!! They want to fill all those nuclear billits that they could with the best and the brightest. I've befriended many recruiters since then and they all told me they were as ruthless as used car salesmen to get good Evals!!
Oh believe me, I knew even at the time what was happening. The scene in that office was like something out of "Cinderella Liberty." But the deal sounded good and I wanted in. Like I said, it all turned out for the best for me.
I hear you loud and clear Fred. In your case I would have done the exact same thing. In my case, with my love affair with airplanes since I was 5 years old and getting E5 the day I walked out of boot camp was a No Brainer for me! :) We both made out like bandits. NDI school just fell in my lap when I got to Roosevelt Roads. You had to reenlist for 6 years to get a seat in the school. I got it for free!! :yahoo: Life is Good! :clapping:

 
As a recruiter I didn't lie to applicants, I lied to the Navy (hey, look kid, if you want to be in my Navy you need to forget about that bee sting allergy).
We have a Recruiter!! :clapping: Glad to meet you Kirk! Are they still using that DPEP Program now a days? Not too many people even knew that program existed. You should have seen the personnel department in my squadron for the first year I was there when they kept seeing E5 with 00 years in service in my monthly statements. It drove them nuts until they realized what had happened. They were shitting their pants thinking it was a clerical error on their part that they were going to get in trouble for! :lol:

 
I'm still working for the Navy in the Wing I once flew for.

All the branches are decreasing forces at a rate not seen since the end of the Cold War era.

I have guys being sent home with about 8-15 years of service while they are mid enlistment contract. Not because they did anything wrong, but because they are in fields that are over manned. Those with less than 15 years get a one time payment that would equate to less than 2 years of pension pay. Those with 15+ years are typically being approved for "early pension" which is another screw job when compared to the 20 year 50% high three.

The Sailors are selected from rates the Navy failed to manage properly and are now over populated. The sailors where asked (before it was determined who who be given the boot) to retrain into another rate. If you decided to ride it out, and where later selected for ERB (enlisted retention board), the offer to retrain no longer exists... You're gone.

A friend of mine with 14 years of service (a great sailor with one recent minor ding on his record), was ERB with 3 years remaining on this enlistment contract. He had already passed his GI bill along to his son a few years prior not knowing what was about to happen to him...

In 1992 Admiral Borda was forced with the same type of requirements. He managed to do it without breaking any contracts. Then again, he was also a prior enlisted not a politician.
That's some sad stuff there Scotty. Had no idea that was going on. What a Jip! :(

 
. . . they kept seeing E5 with 00 years in service in my monthly statements. It drove them nuts until they realized what had happened. They were shitting their pants thinking it was a clerical error on their part that they were going to get in trouble for! :lol:
Reminds me of Catch 22. This guy named Major Major Major joined the Army, went to boot camp as a buck private, and somebody made one of those clerical errors and typed it one extra time. Next thing you know, he was the only Major in his squad in boot camp!

 
Navy '84-'93, SM1, East coast, plankowner USS Hawes (FFG 53), Partial Med cruise diverted to Persian Gulf in '87, USS Jesse L. Brown (FF 1089), UNITAS cruise, Recruiter Cadillac, Mi, Recruiter-in-Charge Ludington, Mi.
I was on the JLB as well - as a reservist. Did you go to Philadelphia for 4th of July in '93 iirc? We left out of Pensacola w/no stops - berthed @ Penn's Landing; I did a UNITAS but was on the Fahrion (FFG22) when I did it.

On recruiting - when I went in (73) they were pushing two programs - Advanced Electronics & Nuclear power. I went in advanced electronics with no rate guarantee other than it would be that group. In boot camp (Orlando) I was given 5 rate preferences. Being a young dubarse in the ways of the navy, I chose 4 aviation, and for the last choice Polaris electronics - which fed three rates (ETN, FTB, and MT) all submarine and/or tender. Guess which one I got? Went to Dam Neck, VA for a yr or school, came out a MT with a first tour on the tender USS Proteus in Guam.

Good times regardless when I look back on it. Lots of characters I met here and there and saw lots of stuff.

 
. . . they kept seeing E5 with 00 years in service in my monthly statements. It drove them nuts until they realized what had happened. They were shitting their pants thinking it was a clerical error on their part that they were going to get in trouble for! :lol:
Reminds me of Catch 22. This guy named Major Major Major joined the Army, went to boot camp as a buck private, and somebody made one of those clerical errors and typed it one extra time. Next thing you know, he was the only Major in his squad in boot camp!
I truly believe Catch 22 was based on fact.

Let me tell ya about Major Pancake and the dispatcher.

To make a long story short, Major Pancake did flap-jack his a$$ down there and he did get to check out his T-33 :p

 
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