WTB Spanner Wrench or Castle Nut Socket

[TomInPA]

I didn't get Roy's socket when he was making them, and the Yamaha YU-33975 Spanner is pretty scarce. Lots of knock-offs on Ebay, and I'll consider those if someone here doesn't have one they are done with. Anyone with experience with these $29-$32 spanners?

I have developed a pretty distinct click in the steering stem and need to get this done in the next week or so. I need a 36mm socket and spanner. I will settle for either/or.

 

[Twigg]

I didn't get Roy's socket when he was making them, and the Yamaha YU-33975 Spanner is pretty scarce. Lots of knock-offs on Ebay, and I'll consider those if someone here doesn't have one they are done with. Anyone with experience with these $29-$32 spanners?
I have developed a pretty distinct click in the steering stem and need to get this done in the next week or so. I need a 36mm socket and spanner. I will settle for either/or.

The one made by Gary Dinges, and sold on eBay for that price, is a very well made item and works as described. I have one.

 

[Bugman]

Try this.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Steering-Stem-Socket-Wrench-DHS-8194-/161403751487

 

[Donal]

Try this. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Steering-Stem-Socket-Wrench-DHS-8194-/161403751487

Looks like it will do the job but how do you fit a torque wrench to this?

The one I use comes from this guy very easy to use with a torque wrench.

 

[kurbennett64]

I bought this one as well. A little north of $50 but well made and works as advertised.

 

[TomInPA]

That is a beautiful piece of work, but keeping price low is a priority for a tool that gets used at most once per year (in my case 5 years). I think I'm moving more in the direction Twigg suggested.

On the simple inexpensive spanner wrenches with the offset wrench fitting, how does one read the torque setting?

 

[TomInPA]

Try this. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Steering-Stem-Socket-Wrench-DHS-8194-/161403751487

I asked the seller if it has a 3/8 or 1/2 wrench fitting for torque. The idea of a center loaded socket for torque makes sense.

 

[PJ4863]

At 90 degrees to the wrench. That won't lengthen the arm changing the torque reading.

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That is a beautiful piece of work, but keeping price low is a priority for a tool that gets used at most once per year (in my case 5 years). I think I'm moving more in the direction Twigg suggested.<br /><br />

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On the simple inexpensive spanner wrenches with the offset wrench fitting, how does one read the torque setting? <br /><br />

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[Bugman]

I asked the same question. Some of the other sockets show the square drive but I cannot discern the drive size.

 

[kurbennett64]

It was 1/2" drive

 

[07FJRVegas]

I bought a 1/2" drive 36 mm six-point socket online from Zoro for about $7.00. This is a hand tool socket and doesn't have a thick wall like most available at auto supply stores that are designed for impact on lug nuts. Good service from Zoro.

 

[Lowcountry Joe]

That is a beautiful piece of work, but keeping price low is a priority for a tool that gets used at most once per year (in my case 5 years). I think I'm moving more in the direction Twigg suggested.
On the simple inexpensive spanner wrenches with the offset wrench fitting, how does one read the torque setting?

Hmmm..I don't trust 90 degree offset torque application accuracy. It may be close, but anytime you change the plane of force, things start moving around regardless of what people may "think". You might only do this job occasionally, but you might find yourself doing it much more often if you don't use the right tools the first time...regardless of cost. Then, you can lend it to your buds to help them out as well. JMHO.

 

[Twigg]

Hmmm..I don't trust 90 degree offset torque application accuracy. It may be close, but anytime you change the plane of force, things start moving around regardless of what people may "think". You might only do this job occasionally, but you might find yourself doing it much more often if you don't use the right tools the first time...regardless of cost. Then, you can lend it to your buds to help them out as well. JMHO.

"Close" is all you will get anyway

Unless you are using a high quality, recently calibrated torque-wrench, and know how to use it ... with brand new and clean fasteners, you will not ever get closer than "close".

That offset wrench with a decent torque-wrench is quite close enough for what we need. Don't over-think this

No one does anything "regardless of cost" ... Well not on this forum anyway!

 

[Lowcountry Joe]

Hmmm..I don't trust 90 degree offset torque application accuracy. It may be close, but anytime you change the plane of force, things start moving around regardless of what people may "think". You might only do this job occasionally, but you might find yourself doing it much more often if you don't use the right tools the first time...regardless of cost. Then, you can lend it to your buds to help them out as well. JMHO.

"Close" is all you will get anyway

Unless you are using a high quality, recently calibrated torque-wrench, and know how to use it ... with brand new and clean fasteners, you will not ever get closer than "close".

That offset wrench with a decent torque-wrench is quite close enough for what we need. Don't over-think this

No one does anything "regardless of cost" ... Well not on this forum anyway!

O well, guess my calibrated Snap-On wrenches are just OK then. I didn't invest in them to live on planet "close enough". There's enough of that going on with the cheap crap from China.

And I am glad to know that you now speak for everyone on the forum, their financial position, and know the decisions they should make before they make them.

Geeze.

 

[Twigg]

Joe ... Yamaha recommends the off-set wrench.

I suggest you take it up with them.

 

[RossKean]

O well, guess my calibrated Snap-On wrenches are just OK then. I didn't invest in them to live on planet "close enough". There's enough of that going on with the cheap crap from China.

And I am glad to know that you now speak for everyone on the forum, their financial position, and know the decisions they should make before they make them.

Geeze.

Your torque wrench could be calibrated within 1% and "close" is still all you will get! Any lubricant or oxidation of the thread surfaces will make a difference. Surface roughness, wear and even the manufacturing tolerance of the threads could make a 10% variation in effective clamping force. Not to mention the variation caused by a few degrees of temperature change. Yes, it is definitely best to be as accurate as possible but the use of the offset wrench (or a slightly lesser torque wrench) isn't going to make ANY practical difference. I'm betting that the original torque specification is just something based upon an engineer's best guess rather than hard science. Somebody tightening it until it "felt right" and then recording the value in the Yamaha torque bible.

 

[TomInPA]

I went ahead and got one of the Ebay offset wrenches to do this job. I tend to torque the steering head bearings by feel anyway. Torque gets you close, but there are a lot of variables in how that assembly works.

Anyone know what the bearing numbers are for Timken roller bearings? I put those on another bike and the results were great.

Never mind...Google-fu is still working Timken part # 32006X 92KA1

 

[Lowcountry Joe]

Your torque wrench could be calibrated within 1% and "close" is still all you will get! Any lubricant or oxidation of the thread surfaces will make a difference. Surface roughness, wear and even the manufacturing tolerance of the threads could make a 10% variation in effective clamping force. Not to mention the variation caused by a few degrees of temperature change. Yes, it is definitely best to be as accurate as possible but the use of the offset wrench (or a slightly lesser torque wrench) isn't going to make ANY practical difference. I'm betting that the original torque specification is just something based upon an engineer's best guess rather than hard science. Somebody tightening it until it "felt right" and then recording the value in the Yamaha torque bible.

Ross...Certainly agree, but my comments are about torque wrench accuracy only as compared to torque using the 90 degree offset.... my comments are not intended to include all of the parameters of the fasteners condition. All a man can do is apply the specified torque as accurately as possible and whatever the fastener does, the fastener does.

Twigg....Yama may recommend the offset spanner, but that's because they sell the damn thing (imagine that) and it's one of those "good enough" fairly decent tools. So it's up to the owner to use what they want to use. It's their bike to do with what they wish.

And one more thing... you told me to "take it up" with Yamaha? I am sorry but I don't ask for yours or Yamaha's permission to use quality tools on my bike, tools that are much better than they could possibly offer. Rest assured, the 2015 FJR is certainly not my only bike.

I offer my comments based on my experiences, good or bad, in hopes of helping other owners. That, and trying to continue to learn, is my only motivation for being here. I appreciate the forum, the admins and the work they have done to keep it up and running over the years, and spirited discussion such as this! Cheers!

 

[bigjohnsd]

Try this. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Steering-Stem-Socket-Wrench-DHS-8194-/161403751487

I bought one of these, it arrived today, has a 1/2" square hole in the top for 1/2" torque wrench.

Really nice job on the machining etc. $35 included the shipping.