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This does not bode well for a Gen III FJR in 2010 - or possibly ever for that matter. As far as motorcycles are concerned, expect Yamaha to focus it's R&D dollars into "sure bet" products for the American market: cruisers (represented in their Star brand), dirt bikes and (if the latest gossip out of Cypress is true) dual sports to include the US launch of the XT660Z Tenere.

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Yamaha begins to feel the economic pains as it braces for its first operating loss in 26 years.Last month we reported that the Japanese business press was starting to highlight the Japanese motorcycle manufacturers beginning to feel the effects of the global recession and some of their cost cutting measures, like reducing the salaries of the directors.

Following on from that this month, apparently Yamaha Motor Co. is now bracing itself for its first operating loss since 1983. For the year ending December 31st 2008, it is expected to sink 30 billion yen into the red. As we have previously reported demand is sagging not only for motorcycles, but this has not been helped by the decline in demand for outboard motors used for leisure boats in Japan, the US and Europe. Generating about 90% of its sales for these products abroad, the company will be hit hard by the strong yen as well as the drop in demand. It is claimed that Yamaha will slash domestic motorcycle production by 24% in 2009 to slightly over 260,000 units, the lowest output in roughly four decades.

As a result Yamaha continue to reducing executive salaries and other fixed expenses to at least help offset the continued slide. According to sources within, sales are projected to slide more than 10% from last fiscal year's estimated 1.6 trillion yen as the firm expects the tough climate to last until at least June.

But, it will not just be those at the top that suffer, as the company will close its main assembly plant in Shizuoka Prefecture, as well as upstream parts factories, for 10 days in February and March, reducing output by 13,000 units. It plans to negotiate with employees for additional work stoppages in the April-June quarter and intends to eliminate all non-full-time workers by the summer, as well as losing some administrative staff!

Ian Kerr, Contributing Editor, Motorcycle USA

 
I agree.

A Gen III may be off the drawing board for quite some time given the current economic climate.

Bummer. <_<

But then, I am still quite happy with my Gen I and still have a ways to go before I hit 300,000 odo. ;)

 
The only possibility left is if they were already mostly tooled up for a Gen III, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Maybe this would drive the price of used FJRs up??

Glad I got mine B)

 
Hmmmm.... XT660Z Tenere? Who needs a Gen 3?
No ****. If it proves true (and I have absolutely no reason to doubt the word of my source), I'll be camped out on my dealer's doorstep to put down my deposit. (Yes, the word is they're talking the dreaded PDP..!)

 
This is a shame. I was still really hoping that they were going to come out with the orange AE I'd been hoping for... or some actual color instead of black or charcoal.

Now I'm thinking the next upgrade from my '05 ABS is going to be an '07 or '08.

 
This situation is certainly not exclusive to Yamaha. All vehicle manufacturers in the world are hurting bad, even Toyota. That Yamaha's products lean toward the leisure side of things, products of want rather than need, it will feel the effects more. I don't think any motorcycle manufacturers will be bringing out many big new projects for the forceeable future.

Steve

 
I agree with SkooterG......... I LOVE my Gen I (personalized modification for comfort included) and I am a loooooooooooong ways from 300 k

 
When I bought the '08 last year, it was w/ the expectation that [as I'm now 63yrs old] it may well be the last new bike I ever buy. I fugure that if I can make it a 150,000+ mile machine in the riding time I have left in the crotchety old body I've got to work w/ I'll be happy about that! More than that will just be frosting on the cake, and I've at least as much faith in the machine as I have in myself!

 
Hmmmm.... XT660Z Tenere? Who needs a Gen 3?
No ****. If it proves true (and I have absolutely no reason to doubt the word of my source), I'll be camped out on my dealer's doorstep to put down my deposit. (Yes, the word is they're talking the dreaded PDP..!)
Yeah....they're only, like, 3 years late! There has been some noise from the Yamaha faithful in North America but Yamaha has been reluctant to actually offer that bike here. Now that the economy is in the doldrums they make late-to-the-table executive decision. How clever of them to wait until BMW brings their "baby" GS when Yamaha could have "owned" that market segment. Doh!

Of course, KTM hasn't been successful with their adventure-type bikes, either. <_<

 
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Hmmmm.... XT660Z Tenere? Who needs a Gen 3?
No ****. If it proves true (and I have absolutely no reason to doubt the word of my source), I'll be camped out on my dealer's doorstep to put down my deposit. (Yes, the word is they're talking the dreaded PDP..!)
Yeah....they're only, like, 3 years late! There has been some noise from the Yamaha faithful in North America but Yamaha has been reluctant to actually offer that bike here. Now that the economy is in the doldrums they make late-to-the-table executive decision. How clever of them to wait until BMW brings their "baby" GS when Yamaha could have "owned" that market segment. Doh!

Of course, KTM hasn't been successful with their adventure-type bikes, either. <_<
A nitch market in a down turning economy. On the other hand it is a ready made product to roll out without needed new research/tooling. Just usual marketing, shipping, etc. costs. I doubt many dealers are clamoring for more inventory right now either. But if I had the cash a Tenere would be on my short list.

As for a GEN III? I bought my '06 with the knowledge it was going to take 5 years to pay off, farkle correctly and be my one and only bike for a while. I also vowed to never sell her like other bikes I've regretted selling. A GEN III wouldn't be in my sights unless I did the unthinkable and crashed. Even then I'd probably go for a good used 2008 or 2009 and swap a lot of my goodies over onto it.

 
We think of the FJR as a niche market bike in the US, is that true worldwide? Oh, and dbvolfan you are bad man! :p :lol:

 
Pisser... I've been waiting for a GEN III, and I guess I'll continue to wait. Boy am I ever glad I'm not in sales!

 
XT660 Tenere? That tired old lump of a single? That things been around more than a street walker's panties. Heavy, under powered, but now with EFI! Does the market really need another not off road, poser dual-sport? Go crash your V-stroms and you'll feel better. :D

Considering the time it takes to design and bring a new generation to market, I'd bet that IF a Gen III was on the table for 2010, it will still come out. The work has already been done, the prototypes made, the production parts finalized, etc.

 
Hmmmm.... XT660Z Tenere? Who needs a Gen 3?
Well, I don't need a Gen 3 - I am perfectly content with my '07.

As for the Tenere - ~450 lbs wet for a single?

A dual-sport is in my future, as soon as I return from my next deployment.

I'd like to see Yamaha put EFI, a larger tank, and a 6-speed wide ratio tranny on the WR450 and make it street legal.

Probably won't happen in the current market and I will either go with a Honda XR650L or a Suzuki DR650

 
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