Yay for ABS!!!

[boomerang]

I had the chance to test mine for the first time just tonight. It is dark as hell out there tonight and visability is low,so I was taking it fairly easy. On a old country back road going about 45-60ish. playing a little bit,dodgeing deer and some dumb ass on a bicycle, aproching a tight 90 just starting to slow when I see it. Freshly mowed mounds of grass covering the road. Used both brakes,just went light on the front until I just started to feel the abs start to work then eased up a little. The bike just settled in and stayed in control nicely.

So far, I have been very impressed!

 

[Bearly Flying]

In all seriousness, I take full responsibility for this near miss.

Sorry Reldeed; Too many people rely on ABS to save their ass. I don't agree with that philosophy. Better to learn how to use the brakes you have and ride within your abilities than to rely on some computer controlled environment.

Not many people are going to keep up with ExtremeMarine on a ride, nor should they. He's a hellva, better rider than most of us.

YOU have to be smart enough to recognize, you are way over your head at that point, and back it down a notch. If you are relying on ABS to save your butt, Your gonna run outta luck sooner than later.

I'm not trying to bust your balls, A word to the wise, ride your own ride. Don't rely on ABS.........

 

[Bearly Flying]

because of the guys like up above that think they are gods gift to motorcycling...I try and think of it like at work...wherever you go there are people like them...to bad they ruin this informational experience for a lot of us...keep up the good riding...just because a guy has to take an evasive or corrective action doesn't mean he is riding over his head.[/quote




Ummmmm, And what would be your analysis, Grasshopper? :dntknw:

 

[odot]

Damn....I hate to say it, but, I will.....

SLOW DOWN YOU ******* IGNORANT *****......

unless yer drunk er sumpin......

like me.

 

[Bustanut joker]

Don't take it personally brother. The FJR community wants to see it's members live to ride another day.
Ride on...

If this is all ya get from this post I'd say ya learned something eh?

Bearly is far from a holier than thou kinda guy, he don't wanna hear about anyone wadding it up anymore than the rest of us.

One day I'm gonna ride a few miles with wayne btw.. I imagine he'll have to pull off and wait a bit, but at least I'll be able to see how far a guy with skill can push these pigs

Relax Reldeed, we're only being helpful.

:jester:

 

[old&slow]

ABS doesn't replace Brains........ Maybe try riding within your limits.....

+1.....Glad that you and EXTREMEMARINE had a good time but am really surprised you are riding over your heads especially with the history involved.

Really guys... these curves are easily done at this speed. smooth dry road... unfortunately, the traffic from the side road brought a bunch of gravel on the curve. Extrememarine was in front and went around without issue. I tried to avoid some of the gravel coming off his back tire and put myself in a bad position. for the corner. I'm POSITIVE most if not ALL of you have gotten yourself in a position that got hairy... I was explaining one that I got in to and was very glad that I had a bike with the features to keep me upright.

Had I known I was going to get lectured for sharing I would have not posted at all. The ride was NOT unsafe the road conditions just required me to use my ABS and I was glad I had it.

the LAST time I share on here good grief.

Reldeed ,,

NO Big deal,,, No Harm , No foul ,,,, chalk it up as a learning experience...

Hell, I've drew a vacuum on more than one vinyl / leather MC seat.. :dribble:

Was out on a ride on a road I hadn't ridden before ,, following a couple guys..

Buddy in front of me went wide in the curve ,,, I did too...( a foot or three across the yellow line)

45mins later he was still worried about it...

Nothing was coming the other way ,, we survived ,,, DON'T Do it Again...

The difference between a mistake and being Bad Wrong / Really Screwing Up is getting caught...

And by the way ,,Thanks for sharing,, ( From some of the posts I've read ,,, )

It's nice to know that only two of us has made a mistake.. :blink:

 

[Fred W]

Met up with Extrememarine for a ride on Monday... I was in the back and riding the outside lane. We rounded a couple tight corners at around 65-70mph...

Thanks for sharing your experience. Yeah having ABS is a great feature. Especially on a bike as big as the FJR. Unfortunately not all of my bikes have ABS.

I'm definitely not an "expert rider" and I have picked up a lot of great tips from other riders here on the forum. You just need to try to check your ego at the door and keep an open mind.

One piece of (hopefully) constructive comment about your experience is that (from the above quote) you seem to have been trying to run in "staggered" formation to Wayne. That is useful when going in traffic and straight sections as you can see further down the road. But once you get into the curves you really should try backing off a bit further (increase your space to the rider ahead) and running your own line through the corner. You really want to have the ability to use the full width of the lane as needed to avoid stuff in the road. Plus running a late apex gives you the best look into the corner for the earliest view of impending hazards, and that requuires using the full lane width.

Maybe you do all that already, but it sounds a little like you didn't in this case and it put you into some gravel on the side.

Ride safe!

 

[fjr183]

Bingo,

Now we're working on lessons learned.

Fred G.

 

[jmarran]

I don't really think it's simply a bunch of "armchair quarterbacks" on here just jumping to the opportunity to call you stupid.

It's tough love.

There have been too damn many crash reports this year and since this is such a tight knit group here, it's kind of like doing something stupid and having your parents find out. You get a smack and a "*******".

It wasn't until my second EOM last year that I didn't **** myself at the sight of gravel in the tight turns. You just anticipate it (especially the right-handers) and there's usually two car tire width paths you can take to get through it unscathed.

Just don't do it again, or Fred will send you to your room without dessert.

 

[Gerry.GEG]

Significant safety feature that sometimes is more important on a M/C. Doubt I'll buy a bike without it again.

 

[HaulinAshe]

FJR Group Ride Rule #1: Never follow HaulinAshe
FJR Group Ride Rule #2: Never follow extrememarine (he used to ride with haulinashe)

FJR Group Ride Rule #3: Read Rule #1 & 2 again.

No, no, NO!

I'm much more sedate now. I'm all jittery trying to adapt to new suspension. My Heli triple has me leaning back against GF constantly for support. This porky belly I've inherited pushes against the tank. I'm worried to death my Rotella-T is grinding away gear teeth, and don't EVEN get me started on my WalMart filter. I can't STAND that damn racket since I removed the Remus baffles...

Man, I just need a HUG!!!

On second thought, perhaps NOT following me is still a very good idea. I sound like a mangina accident waiting to happen.

It's threads like this that remind me how much I was warned early on to "Have a thick skin" when posting on this forum. The one thing I still can't figure out though, is why when someone gets blasted for sharing, there's not an equal and opposite reaction for blasting?

I guess "two wrongs don't make a right" applies?

Reldeed, we've all been there brother. That's why you try hard to never ride at 100% on the street. Too many unknowns. Personally, I think Ride-Recon-Repeat (RRR) is a very underrated practice.

The FJR ABS is a good system. I used to use it as a signaling system to judge traction limitations while trying to keep up with ExtremeMarine. I think the ABS and I both finally gave up.

Glad you guys found the required options to make it through.

[SIZE=12pt]Again, thanks for sharing![/SIZE]

HA

 

[HaulinAshe]

FredW makes a very good point here.

One piece of (hopefully) constructive comment about your experience is that (from the above quote) you seem to have been trying to run in "staggered" formation to Wayne. That is useful when going in traffic and straight sections as you can see further down the road. But once you get into the curves you really should try backing off a bit further (increase your space to the rider ahead) and running your own line through the corner.

Not saying that you did, but just for discussion sake... When you run close to another bike ahead, you are putting your life in his hands. Now I can't think of anyone I'd trust my life to more than ExtremeMarine, but it also requires that you do EXACTLY the same thing he does. That only gives you the time space between his bike and yours to adapt to changes, PLUS you have to evaluate what his decision was and act accordingly.

Being the second bike is a tough job and IMO, extremely underrated. If it wasn't for feeling that burden of being so responsible for those behind me (as Wayne pointed out), I'd prefer to take point every time in a group ride. IMO it's an easier position to be in. Or at least the problem set is one I'm more comfortable with.

 

[palerider]

Just a bit ridiculous.

You're right. Stick around, though, and over time you'll get thicker-skinned. As you have now learned, there is a small-but-vocal percentage of asshats here who can't resist the urge to display their ass-hattedness at every possible opportunity. Don't take it to heart. It would be good for the asshats to remember that no one, not even someone with their superior skills, can predict what lies around every blind curve and that being prepared for the unexpected, and being able to react successfully (as you did), IS "riding within your limits." Congratulations on getting out of that situation. You done good.

 

[Bustanut joker]

Boy this is perfect...... Friday's here and we got ourselves a pissin match :clapping:

A few guys post up concerns and it's blown the hell outa proportion by whinny assed diaper wearing thin skinned folks who don't unnerstand constructive criticism..

Oh **** I resorted to name callin...

Let's getit on :lol:

:jester:

 

[palerider]

Boy this is perfect...... Friday's here and we got ourselves a pissin match :clapping:
A few guys post up concerns and it's blown the hell outa proportion by whinny assed diaper wearing thin skinned folks who don't unnerstand constructive criticism..

Oh **** I resorted to name callin...

Let's getit on :lol:

:jester:

God I love Fridays. :yahoo:

 

[nofreeride]

Reldeed,

I did the same thing or similar earlier this season, ran off the road but my ABS didn't work. What I learned from it is that I need to ride with a much greater margin of error. I need to ride with enough room to maneuver, brake, turn or whatever and still stay on the road. There WILL be deer, gravel, tar snakes, water, bicycles, cars over the center line, etc, and EVERY time there is, I need to be riding within a margin or error that allows me to correct for the situation without danger to myself or others.

I have also learned much from reading this forum about others' experiences. Thanks.

 

[DailyCommuter]

Boy this is perfect...... Friday's here and we got ourselves a pissin match :clapping:
A few guys post up concerns and it's blown the hell outa proportion by whinny assed diaper wearing thin skinned folks who don't unnerstand constructive criticism..

Oh **** I resorted to name callin...

Let's getit on :lol:

:jester:

I feel this would be an appropriate time to bring this up. Bustanut I've always loved you! You had me at "how yer doin?"

seriously though; now I'm dying to go for a ride with Jeff and ExtremeMarine

 

[canyonman]

Just to be clear I wasn't criticizing your skill or technique. god knows I have cleaned out a ditch or two in my time.

We have way too many brothers and sisters layed up in the hospital trying to grow parts of their body back. And those were the lucky ones that lived.

Thats all I was getting at.

 

[FastJoyRide]

Reldeed: Part of the fun/danger of posting (vs chatting face to face) is that what you thought you read is not necessarily what he/she thought he wrote! I think you may have read much more criticsm than was perhaps intended, and may have under-read the "constructive" part. You may or may not have had the chance to meet some of the posters - that changes things a lot in my opinion (if I can visulaize him saying the same thing to me - maybe with a wry smile or a wink)

I've been on this forum for a very long time and the ****** ratio here is minutely small (we just take Odot out of the stats cause he's "special"). Mostly what you've got here is a bunch of experienced riders who, like me, are horrified by the carnage we've seen this year. We've all done brain-dead things too and lived to tell the stories as well (well I sure have anyway)

With 20+ years under your belt you obviously fit into the: "there are old riders and there are bold riders, but there are no old, bold riders" survival stat - good on ya mate! But I've got over twice that time in on motosickle seats, spent 15 years teaching others the right way to take up the sport that I love, and I will tell you that the day that I stop learning, the day that I think there is no way to add further to my riding skills, is the day that I will hang up my gear for the last time.

Don't stop posting! But when you come on to confess to a brain-dead moment, don't get offended if some of the folks point out that it was...

I'm with you on the ABS - and I've have had it on every bike I've owned since my 1992 FJ1200 - but short of my regular parking lot/deserted road practice sessions (well covered in other recent posts here by others) I frankly don't want to hear that system activating with any frequency during my riding year. When it does it is a very clear message to me that my pace is not appropriate for the road (vs for the track).

Now can we all have a group hug and get back to bashing Hardley and BMW?

 

[Bustanut joker]

Well one more from me regarding this.. That is unless we get a dogpile goin' :lol:

Having met Wayne (albeit briefly) and from reading Jeffs post's I think I can safely assume these two would be disappointed if anyone riding with them felt the need to ride beyond their ability's in order to "keep up"

These two (and several others here I'm certain) have a, do I dare say "natural ability" to wring out the most out of a bike.

That being said, I think we all can at some point become proficient enough to one day ride and for the most part keep up with these types, given time and practice.

Ride your ride folks, but be careful ..

:jester: