You're bleeding & the nearest hospital isn't near at all

[MEM]

Protondecay123's making me think now :huh:

I'm an OR nurse. If someone's bleeding out in the OR, we have the anaesthesiologist injecting meds and transfusing blood products and volume expanders - as well managing Buddy's airway. The surgeon's burning, clipping, stapling and tying as fast as he/she can.

But I can see where that might be a problem if, as Wheatie points, one is riding in woods fairly removed from a hospital, let alone a trauma centre.

Before this thread goes too quickly down the crapper, would you EMT types post up and tell us how to put together a credible First Aid Kit that might offer at least a bandaid solution to the most probable injuries assuming ATGATT and given that real estate on the Feej is tight?

 

[Patriot]

I got EOD friends (who ride) who's job in the military is to disarm IED's:

Medium Johnson's First Aid Kit from WalMart...like $15

EMT shears...scissors that cut anything

kotex maxi pads...for cleaning up blood (not for wounds themselves)

Israeli Army combat trauma pad kit (ebay)

Z-Medica QUIKCLOT Quick clot Clotting Sponge (50g) - ebay

Prestige Medical 4350-tro Tourniquet - amazon

Largest chemical cold packs (2)

Roll wide first aid tape

Box of biggest gauze pads

CPR mouth barrier thingies

Pint of Southern Comfort

cyanide capsule

IED - Improvised Explosive Device or Roadside Bomb

EOD - Explosive Ordinance Disposal - military technician whose job is to difuse or make bombs safe

 

[SQUEAL]

I got EOD friends (who ride) who's job in the military is to disarm IED's:

Medium Johnson's First Aid Kit from WalMart...like $15

EMT shears...scissors that cut anything

kotex maxi pads...for cleaning up blood (not for wounds themselves)

Israeli Army combat trauma pad kit (ebay)

Z-Medica QUIKCLOT Quick clot Clotting Sponge (50g) - ebay

Prestige Medical 4350-tro Tourniquet - amazon

Largest chemical cold packs (2)

Roll wide first aid tape

Box of biggest gauze pads

CPR mouth barrier thingies

Pint of Southern Comfort

cyanide capsule

IED - Improvised Explosive Device or Roadside Bomb

EOD - Explosive Ordinance Disposal - military technician whose job is to difuse or make bombs safe

+2 on the quik clot. You can get it a lot of places, but I have been hearing for awhile now that it is going to be pulled from the civilian market. I cannot imagine why, but it is good to have and you should have a couple packs in your kit (car too). I also carry the 5-gal. paint sticks for splints. Those are hard to carry on a bike, but they are in my main kit. Diapers work good for blood too. A huggie in a ziplock would soak up a lot.

 

[frito1]

I'm a medic by trade. I have a low opinion of pre-made kits. I carry a big hand full of 4x4's, a few 5x9's. a couple of rolls of 4" Kerlix, a roll of 2" cloth tape, a CPR barrier shield, some gloves, and a small bottle of alcohol gel stuffed in a little fanny pack. I can tend most injuries with this small fanny pack of supplies (and seldom need more than this when working). Lists like this can be never ending and much of it is personal preference, $$, and how much space you have.

Don't worry about it too much, all bleeding stops eventually.

 

[MEM]

I'm a medic by trade. I have a low opinion of pre-made kits. I carry a big hand full of 4x4's, a few 5x9's. a couple of rolls of 4" Kerlix, a roll of 2" cloth tape, a CPR barrier shield, some gloves, and a small bottle of alcohol gel stuffed in a little fanny pack. I can tend most injuries with this small fanny pack of supplies (and seldom need more than this when working). Lists like this can be never ending and much of it is personal preference, $$, and how much space you have.

Don't worry about it too much, all bleeding stops eventually.

I like the way you think. Which is pretty close to what I"m thinking - the gauze/abd pads, kerlix and tape.

Yup, all bleeding stops. Eventually

 

[protondecay123]

I have a tourniquet, quik clot, gauze roll in my bikes first aid kit just in case. Hopefully to never use.

 

[Thug]

Frito is on the money not sure what a Kerlix is tho?( Aussie paramedic for 10 years + other stuff medical) but the simpler the better.

1. Some medium to large gauze pads x 6

2. medium to large roller bandages crape or better x 6

3. something to secure them with. (remember it might be you doing this to yourself and you may not be in the best frame of mind so the quickest and simplest way possible is bet)

4. Shears are a must

5. gloves if you can be bothered

6. Chlohexidine or alcohol cleaner if you really want to.

7. Glad wrap, great for burns and maintaining dermal barrier integrity.

If ya worried about gaping holes etc...just pack the roller bandage in it and wrap it up works every time....and stay put get you phone out and dial the usual. You just never know what else is going on in your body. Help is normally reasonably quick so dont worry too much about impeading circulation re haemorrhage control, its problay not going to ake any difference in the long run unless you are going to be there for a while beyond and hour etc..

 

[MEM]

Frito is on the money not sure what a Kerlix is tho?( Aussie paramedic for 10 years + other stuff medical) but the simpler the better.

1. Some medium to large gauze pads x 6

2. medium to large roller bandages crape or better x 6

3. something to secure them with. (remember it might be you doing this to yourself and you may not be in the best frame of mind so the quickest and simplest way possible is bet)

4. Shears are a must

5. gloves if you can be bothered

6. Chlohexidine or alcohol cleaner if you really want to.

7. Glad wrap, great for burns and maintaining dermal barrier integrity.

If ya worried about gaping holes etc...just pack the roller bandage in it and wrap it up works every time....and stay put get you phone out and dial the usual. You just never know what else is going on in your body. Help is normally reasonably quick so dont worry too much about impeading circulation re haemorrhage control, its problay not going to ake any difference in the long run unless you are going to be there for a while beyond and hour etc..

All good info, Thug. Thanks. I'll hit the drugstore and see what I can toss together into a SMALL box !

This is Kerlix

Kling / Conform is similar. They're all gauze dressing wraps. I like your elastocrepe idea

 

[wheatonFJR]

good info...even for me who would probably faint/barf at the sight of trauma.

 

[MEM]

good info...even for me who would probably faint/barf at the sight of trauma.

Yeah - me, too.

I'm ok with someone else's blood (and other stuff). I just can't stand the sight of my own

 

[redtail]

my wife is a nurse, as well, and I've always been getting banged up. So I've always had first aid kits in my vehicles. I carry a motorcycle specific kit on the bike that has things like...

a pair of shears capable of cutting through riding gear and boots.

gel soaked burn dressing

glow stick

face shield and gloves

space blanket

and of course the usual bandaids, ace wraps and such.

I found that the standard first aid kits weren't as prepared for motorcycle crash related injuries.

And don't forget the duct tape!!!

 

[Bustanut joker]

Super Glue...

I have several scars on my hands and arms that should or could have used sutures.. But by golly that stuff was fast and closed 'em right up..

 

[Khunajawdge]

Super Glue...

I have several scars on my hands and arms that should or could have used sutures.. But by golly that stuff was fast and closed 'em right up..

Yeah, Super glue is good, but I am a firm believer in Second Skin bandages. Also there are lots of items on a veterinarian's list of products that are worth looking into like horse bandages for sprains.

 

[dj bill]

ok,first determine if they are canadian or not,if canadian go check out their bike for parts,if not canadianfirst pee on the wound to irrigate,then get his wallet and check out the amount of cash,if only dollar bills(aka richard and the stripper pole stash) use them to pack the blood squirting from the gaping hole left by the guardrail they impailed themselves on.pull their smitty installed cruise control wiring off the bike and tie a strand below the wound and their heart,cant shift if you loose a lower extremity(unless your a ***** riding ae freak).then call their wife and ask whats for dinner,youll be there soon.

 

[beemerdons]

ok,first determine if they are canadian or not,if canadian go check out their bike for parts,if not canadianfirst pee on the wound to irrigate,then get his wallet and check out the amount of cash,if only dollar bills(aka richard and the stripper pole stash) use them to pack the blood squirting from the gaping hole left by the guardrail they impailed themselves on.pull their smitty installed cruise control wiring off the bike and tie a strand below the wound and their heart,cant shift if you loose a lower extremity(unless your a ***** riding ae freak).then call their wife and ask whats for dinner,youll be there soon.

Finally some Words of Wisdom, thanks again dj bill! Mi Hermano, we of the FJR Forum can always count on you!

 

[SacramentoMike]

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You guys have got me thinking. I guess it's time to update my medical kit. Here's the equipment I've always carried.

 

[wheatonFJR]

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You guys have got me thinking. I guess it's time to update my medical kit. Here's the equipment I've always carried.

^^^^^ Civil War surgeon's kit....am I right? ^^^^^^^

Back to topic...

So bring something that will soak up a lot of blood and stem the flow to allow coagulation to slow down the blood loss until Responder's arrive, right?

 

[beemerdons]

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You guys have got me thinking. I guess it's time to update my medical kit. Here's the equipment I've always carried.

^^^^^ Civil War surgeon's kit....am I right? ^^^^^^^

Back to topic...

So bring something that will soak up a lot of blood and stem the flow to allow coagulation to slow down the blood loss until Responder's arrive, right?

So SacramentoMike, you served under General William Tecumseh Sherman too? Uncle Billy was the best Commanding Officer Sergeant Stanley ever had!

 

[cruppelt]

Former EMT here, I have pressure pads, gauze, medical tape and duct tape, with shear style scissors, burn pads, CPR mask, tracheal intubation set (with a small package Vaseline), pack of disposable gloves, mini-multitool with a very sharp blade and a compact package of insulating blankets to round it out. All of this makes for a very small and compact package.

I think I'm equipped for most anything; between pressure pads and duct tape you can get most bleedings to stop or at least to slow enough for lot's more time; after reading other lists here I do want to look into Quikclot. EDIT: Just bought three Quikclot packs on eBay, this stuff will be part of my MC emergency pack shortly.