`06 FJR Problems already?!

[shuswaper]

I can`t believe what I am reading already. There are reports of unusual valve train noises coming from the early `06 owners, nevermind an incorrect data display (instant MPG). Fer kryst sakes...whats with the lack of quality control. Is it possible that Mother Yamaha lacks integrity after all? Lord save us !! :assasin:

 

[Feejer/Weejer man]

Maybe the new valve stems and valve seals don't work afterall. We shall see. Never buy a first year or improved model.

 

[Warchild]

There are reports of unusual valve train noises coming from the early `06 owners

So where are these reports?

 

[skyway]

Maybe the new valve stems and valve seals don't work afterall. We shall see. Never buy a first year or improved model.

I disagree with this statement, the FJR has been evolving now for years. The '06 model, while it has a lot of changes, the biggest of them for me is in the engine.

I now believe that the tick will not be returning for the '06 model year due to numerous internal engine changes not visible from the outside. The valve train has been revamped along with a complete revision of the oil flow circuit throughout the engine.

After listening to an '06 up close and carefully listening, the harmonics from this latest engine design is noticeably different from previous years. It does not have the high pitched frequency sound of years past and now almost has a deep tone throughout the RPM's. The differences in engine sound I think can be attributed to these changes.

I will go out on a limb here now before any reports come in and say that the "tick is dead".

I have always thought that Yamaha has known all along what has caused the tick,(they'd be a poor engineering house if they didn't) and now due to the success of this bike and continuing repair bills, has invested the $$$ into cleaning up their design.

 

[Feejer/Weejer man]

Besides a few cosmetic changes, very few in fact, the FJR stayed the same for 4 years. This year is a total, almost complete overhaul from airflow to engine components and frame differences. So even though it evolved it is a total evolution not just color. I am glad you will lay your life on the line about the ticking. Time will tell.

 

[Bike Effects]

I now believe that the tick will not be returning for the '06 model year due to numerous internal engine changes not visible from the outside. The valve train has been revamped along with a complete revision of the oil flow circuit throughout the engine.

How did I miss this news? Am I the only one that thought that the engine had NOT changed? Where did you get this info Ian?

 

[skyway]

I am glad you will lay your life on the line about the ticking. Time will tell.

I'm not a gambling man, but if I was I'd see your $20 and raise you another $20

Having so many design revisions to the engine stands to reason that they have addressed the biggest kink in the FJR's armor, the tick.

And all this coming from a ticker owner, who'd have thought it eh? :shock:

 

[Windjammer]

Having so many design revisions to the engine stands to reason that they have addressed the biggest kink in the FJR's armor, the tick.

Hmmm, wishful thinking, perhaps, but I hope you're right anyway. I wonder if they detuned it while they were in there messing around? :haha: Sorry, couldn't resist.

If the redesigned motor is the one and true "fix" for the tick, does this mean that future pre-'06 tickers will get an '06 top end bolted on, or a whole new '06 engine? Don't think I'd hold my breath on that one, either.

 

[FJR-Richie]

Uhhmm seems early days to be diagnosing any supposed problems - time will tell. As for buying first year models - someone has to or else there would never be any subsequent models!!!

 

[shuswaper]

There are reports of unusual valve train noises coming from the early `06 owners

So where are these reports?

"lets first start by saying that i have been riding and wrenching bikes and cars for most of my life. i am not a uneducated novice and do actually have some knowledge of what im talking about. hopefully i wont be treated like one.

quick review-- 06 'a' picked up last sat, on long ride home, noticed unusually loud valve noise, ticking if you will. was a concern for me, thought i would wait till 600 service and bring up the problem. well now im at 600, went to local dealer to start making friends with them, talked to sevice mgr about prob, he kinda shrugged it off stating no need of valve adj till 26k, word spread pretty quickly bout my fjr being there, out pops the tech that does all work on them. turns out he is waiting for his 06, they havent gotten there delivery yet. did some reviewing with him, went outside, fired it up and sure enough there it was. tech definately heard it, even acknowledged it, also very flat off idle, he noticed that too. stated tb's needed sync and that valve noise could be from chain tensioner???

dont know how the tensioner can cause the valves to tick?? at any rate bike will be dropped off tues for service, tech said he would go over whole bike, would check tensioner, see if he could deduce problem. i asked if he could call yamaha to get their response and possible resolution, he said they would not authorize valve adjustment under warranty. gave me estimate of $500+ for adjust. if yamaha wouldnt pay. he did mention that if it was found that there was some out of 'spec' that they should take care of it.

i just dont feel that being a brand new bike it should have this problem to start with, but more importantly i shouldnt get stuck with the bill for their lack of proper adjustment during assembly!!!!" :assasin:

 

[SkooterG]

Ok, so that is ONE report. Me thinks you exaggerate a bit. Care to offer who made this report?

I seriously doubt the example above is a ticker. I have never heard of an FJR developing the "tick" within 600 miles. I doubt it needs a valve adjustment, though its possible it is one of those one in a thousand poorly built bikes. It could quite possibly be just a loud Yamaha Genesis motor. There could be something wrong, or there may not be. Hell, my 04 makes a racket, always has, but at 64,000 miles is definitely NOT a ticker.

So I would say your statement:

Fer kryst sakes...whats with the lack of quality control. Is it possible that Mother Yamaha lacks integrity after all? Lord save us !!

is a bit over the top and premature.

Yo Skiwi! I second Bike Effects' query. Where the heck did you get your info on the valve train changes?

 

[shuswaper]

"Ok, so that is ONE report. Me thinks you exaggerate a bit. Care to offer who made this report?" ...err ahem--- Plazma

 

[skyway]

Yo Skiwi!  I second Bike Effects' query.  Where the heck did you get your info on the valve train changes?

After a conversation with an owner of a Yamaha dealership. He claims to have studied the design of the '06 engine, and it was supposedly announced at the dealer meeting when the '06 bike was unveiled.

Then again I could have dreamed it?

 

[fjr]

Didn't Yammie take the old tickers back to Japan for a look see? Stands to reason there is a fix in "oh Six."

 

[shuswaper]

Here`s another one skooter et al can digest ! :assasin: "Re: comment from twowheelnut: Right side?! The promblem is usually on the left. Take another listen...

I have a new '06 FJR with 400 miles on it. It has a very light ticking coming from the left crankcase side at very light or no load around 2000-3000 RPM then it's gone. It's not there when the engine is cold and it's just loud enough to hear when passing thru that RPM going thru the gears...but only under a light load. It sure doesn't sound like the valves and it's coming from the lower end. I was thinking maybe the tranny gears or balancer wearing in? Dealer said he didn't think it was serious and to give it a few hundred miles yet.

Anyone else seen this or have an explanation?

Thanks! (courtesy of "yamahasforever")

 

[plazma]

just to respond

i am not saying it is a ticker, after all ive read and heard problem doesnt start right away (low mileage). just trying to describe noise i hear. something IS amiss, tech who has experience on fjr's agrees noise is excessive. for sure not injector noise. again i am not a novice and know what i hear. i will have to see what is discovered, im sure a few adjustments and all will be well. my guess is an assembler who thought it "close enough" and left it.

tony

 

[Feejer/Weejer man]

I guess the only way we will know is when the first 06 is diagnosed as a ticker, until then it is all fodder for this discussion, which ain't bad. Hopefully all Yamaha did to the engine and cooling addresses the tick. Oh, I do think they did detune it making it slower.

 

[FJRottie]

Maybe it is just a friday afternoon bike.

 

[Groo]

I heard that Yamaha made a special deal on the production of '06 FJR bikes... since there weren't very many, they only dedicated 1 day of production a week, and picked... you guessed it.... Friday. :blink: :fool: