2010 Yamaha FJR Intro

[Fred W]

Oh man! I do like that. Nice work.

I bet it would look even better with a black reflective stripe kit on it!! Yeah! :yahoo:

 

[charismaticmegafauna]

<snip> Do your homework on the value of a 2006 model (I have). If my bike is worth $8,000, let the record show that I'll take that for the bike today - and yes, I"m serious.

Maybe this will help...? :

Indian Motorcycle dealers are offering buyers $3,000 toward the purchase of a new 2009 Indian Chief for their trade-ins as part of the seminal manufacturer's own "Cash for Clunkers" program.
Any trade-in must be street legal, 100cc or larger and must have a clear title; the bike must also be in running and ride-able condition, and mopeds, scooters and dirt bikes will not be accepted.

For more information, contact Indian at (704) 937-7333 or [email protected].

I think the Indian's engine hardly turns any RPM in top gear, too...? :blink: :huh:

 

[FJRGuy]

Here's one in yellow..., my '05

Remind me to strike yellow off of my list of potential new FJR colours! :bad:

J/K... Wouldn't be my choice but it'd definitely stand out at an FJR Rally! Good on ya for being different!

 

[Toecutter]

Remind me to strike yellow off of my list of potential new FJR colours!

It would make a good match for Old Michael's helmet!

 

[JuiceMcGoose]

I ordered the black/silver FJR/tuning fork reflective vinyl for the back of the bags but I haven't decided what to do to the the sides yet.

I already have a black and two red bikes in the shop so they kind of match.

 

[jjsC6]

If you think about my needs, the K1300S actually is the bike I should get. While I'm seriously interested (I'm hoping to get out today and look at one again), I am a little nervous.

I would certainly be interested in your impressions of the K1300S if you are able to test ride one since it seems to be (almost) a sport bike with a humane sitting position and something that one could actually tour on...however, both the K1300S and the K1300GT appear to have extremely low overall gearing. The 6 speed transmission isn't much of a plus for use as a touring bike if the engine is running faster in 6th than the FJR is running in 5th. RIDER reported the K1300S as turning 3750 rpms and the K1300GT as turning 3600 rpms at an indicated 60 mph. This is pretty consistent with Cycle World's comparison of the C14 and the K1300GT when they stated that the K1300GT's engine speed in 6th (5000 rpms at an indicated 80 mph) was about the same as the C14's in 4th.

I stopped by one dealer today, but they don't have one in stock. What I'm reading on the forum is that the 1300 has more vibration in the handlebar than the 1200 did (I've ridden a 1200). That is a bit of a concern to me. Honestly, the main reason I want a 6th gear on the FJR is to try to kill some of the vibration at freeway speeds. I don't really care how many rpms it turns as much as I care about the side effects that may or may not come with however many rpms it's turning.

I'm going to be very busy the next couple of weeks. I'm hoping I can find one to ride, but I think riding a 1300 will be difficult. There aren't many out there. But I will report if I do.

 

[jjsC6]

Talking about single and double over drives does not take into account that you can change the rear axle ratio to a taller ratio, and put in lower gear ratios in the transmission. Remember, Yamaha changed the rear ratio starting in 06 for less rpms cruising - but it also effects acceleration from a stop (also reduced wheelies! :angry2: ).

This is about a wish list, not reality. Would that I had the power to wish things and make them true, but alas, I don't. Your answer is not a solution I'd want. I don't want JUST taller gearing. I want an overdrive top gear while keeping the other gear ratios the same.

You may have read too much into my post (or maybe I wasn't clear). I was just trying to make a point that the ratio in top gear is only part of the equation, the rear axle ratio is part of the equation. I was just trying to debunk the discussion of a double overdrive.

I agree completely with the point you are making.

 

[marauder]

Well, I read all 10 pages and I still think that I am going to buy the 2010. Several reasons starting with my crash with a deer two months ago on my '03 has left me without a ride and since I love the FJR but don't care for black...and my '03 was silver and was still very pretty right up to the point of impact with a muley doe. :wacko: And the fact that Yamaha has changed nothing other than the color speaks highly for what we already know...we've got a great bike. :fan_1:

I am disapointed that the GenII's are heavier and less horsepower than my GenI was. I loved the fact that I could loft the front wheel from a dead stop and cross the intersection with Harley's waiting and grumbling about rice or something like that. Actually they were too busy blipping their straight exhaust every three seconds to get more attention. rc:

But I am looking forward to a cool ride in more ways than one. Anyone who has ridden a GenI in high heat knows how uncomfortable it can be. I measured my gas temperature one time and it was 114 degrees F. Looking forward to cool gas.

I will start shopping and comparing prices in February and since I am ruthless, I will get the best deal that can be found. irate: :dwarf: :taunt:

Bill

 

[palerider]

Talking about single and double over drives does not take into account that you can change the rear axle ratio to a taller ratio, and put in lower gear ratios in the transmission. Remember, Yamaha changed the rear ratio starting in 06 for less rpms cruising - but it also effects acceleration from a stop (also reduced wheelies! :angry2: ).

This is about a wish list, not reality. Would that I had the power to wish things and make them true, but alas, I don't. Your answer is not a solution I'd want. I don't want JUST taller gearing. I want an overdrive top gear while keeping the other gear ratios the same.

You may have read too much into my post (or maybe I wasn't clear). I was just trying to make a point that the ratio in top gear is only part of the equation, the rear axle ratio is part of the equation. I was just trying to debunk the discussion of a double overdrive.

I agree completely with the point you are making.

Good. Now can you explain it to me?

 

[palerider]

I stopped by one dealer today, but they don't have one in stock. What I'm reading on the forum is that the 1300 has more vibration in the handlebar than the 1200 did (I've ridden a 1200). That is a bit of a concern to me. Honestly, the main reason I want a 6th gear on the FJR is to try to kill some of the vibration at freeway speeds. I don't really care how many rpms it turns as much as I care about the side effects that may or may not come with however many rpms it's turning.

+1

 

[wsherring]

[quote name='palerider' post='641762' date='Sep 10 2009, 12:19
As far as I know, in the motorcycling world there is only one double overdrive trans. That's the new Baker 6th OD unit for HD and similar V-twins.

If double overdrive means 2 overdrive gears, then you are incorrect. My 1600 Road Star has .906:1 4th and .750:1 5th gears. And it doesn't even have 6 gears (I like it that way).

Sam

 

[Bungie]

Here's one in yellow..., my '05

Theirs a yellow one (brighter yellow than yours) here in Sudbury. At least, their was, I saw it up for sale a while ago. Haven't seen it in a while either..

I've been trying to snap a pic of it, but the damn guy always just blows by when I see it!

 

[nickjacket]

It sounds like Yamaha was listening to dealers that had either an A or AE on their floors that swayed buyers from ordering and dealers didn't want the confusion this year.

GenIII FJR wants:

- shed weight to under 600 lbs.

- handlebars that adjust X as well as Y.

- user selectable engine mapping, wireless to an html setup screen.

- user adjustable speedometer accuracy.

- display should show time even if key is off.

- fuel gauge and resettable tripometers should show for a few minutes after key switched to off.

- mileage shown at last bar of fuel should countdown based on recent averages, not count up.

- make sidestand contact pad wider area to prevent sinking/tipping.

- make centerstand easier to lift bike onto.

 

[beacher]

Jesus, you guys are really an undiscriminating bunch of cretins! I have read through 9, count 'em, 9 pages of comments, and not one of you has picked up on the fact that this is obviously a new design, from the bottom up! Why, the damned thing is actually .2" longer than my 2008, and the seat is .16" lower! I mean, with changes like that, I think I'm gonna dump my bike tomorrow, and go get me one of the new ones. . . :lol:

 

[palerider]

Jesus, you guys are really an undiscriminating bunch of cretins! I have read through 9, count 'em, 9 pages of comments, and not one of you has picked up on the fact that this is obviously a new design, from the bottom up! Why, the damned thing is actually .2" longer than my 2008, and the seat is .16" lower! I mean, with changes like that, I think I'm gonna dump my bike tomorrow, and go get me one of the new ones. . . :lol:

I resent that. I myself am a discriminating cretin.

 

[n1acguy]

WTF? Why are we limited to one colour? (Well I'm on a English website so why not spell it there way?) :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah, is that just a Yamaha thing? I haven't had that many bikes, but I always had at least 2 colors to choose from.

 

[zorkler]

Because Yamaha Corp. only wants the few select riders to purchase there S/T product . A giant corp like Yamaha which has its hands in all types of products can lose money on the FJR and it will not make a difference on there bottom line . The number of FJR they sell is like BREAKFAST money . And for us that SUCKS .

 

[palerider]

Because Yamaha Corp. only wants the few select riders to purchase there S/T product . A giant corp like Yamaha which has its hands in all types of products can lose money on the FJR and it will not make a difference on there bottom line . The number of FJR they sell is like BREAKFAST money . And for us that SUCKS .

I read it differently. I think the FJR is a flagship product for them, more important for the OOOO/AHHH magazine coverage than for the actual number of bikes they sell. That's why I think we'll see an update in the next year or three. Meanwhile, just like they did with the VMax, and just like Kawasaki did with the old Connie, they'll continue to sell the GenIIs until there's a replacement because the FJR has a sizable, loyal following and because the development costs have already been recouped. It's relatively easy money for them. But they'll minimize the costs, so only one model (the A) and only one color, the silver. (Which is the best color, anyway.)

 

[zorkler]

If it a flagship product no co. will wait 1 to 3 yearas to update the product . I do not know the number of FJR that were sold in 2009 i would take a guess it was under 6k again if that is near the number it can not be called a flagship product.( Mybe some member could come up with that number ) There R1 i would think is there flagship product

 

[Fred W]

Flagship smagship. It's just a bike. And an unpopular one (in the USA) at that.

Unfortunately (for us), SportTouring bikes are not all that popular nor particularly desirable in mainstream America. Crotch rockets and chopper clones sell much better as young Ricky Racers and old 1%'er wannabees make up the vast majority of 'cycle buyers.

As foreign as the idea is to most of us, most American motorcyclists do not want to ride vast distances at a spirited pace. They don't have the time nor attention span to spend a whole day, let alone a week or more wandering around discovering new places. For these in the majority, a bike is just a toy for a Sunday morning run to the coffee shop, or for meeting the boys at the bar on.

If there was an Ooh-wow bike in the Yamaha line up I would have to say it is the R1. Not because I think so, but because everyone else thinks so.