El Toro Joe
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I hope your prediction is correct...I predict $17,500 or less for the ES.The past four years didn't they post the price the same time they announce then new model year? Has me thinking there might be a big increase.......
I hope your prediction is correct...I predict $17,500 or less for the ES.The past four years didn't they post the price the same time they announce then new model year? Has me thinking there might be a big increase.......
Yeah, I did. Sort of. If I listened correctly it's not that they've come up with a set price but rather a percentage increase over whatever the '15's NA MSRP is currently. He didn't offer what that percentage point is and I didn't ask but I believe it isn't anything too significant.Did you ask about the price or maybe get a feel if there was going big price increase or not?
I agree, with the US dollar staying strong we can hope for smaller increase than our friends in Europe.I'm pretty sure that each market sets their own pricing in Yamaha, so whatever is happening in Germany price-wise may or may not be consistent with the changes that will happen here in the USA.
That is the plan Mark...yesterday I chased Denny around SEO, and had a blast putting 432 miles on for the day...my 06 really isn't lacking fun factor...but it sure would be nice, to start with a 0 mile bike, again. And since the 16 is the same color as my beloved 06...why not?Get it Joe!!!
Posted with tongue firmly planted in cheek, Fred...I'm in complete agreement, the extra gear won't do a thing for FJR fuel mileage. Pure marketing at work...I doubt the fuel mileage at highway speeds will be improved at all. The difference in engine pumping losses between an engine running at 4500 rpm and one running a few hundred rpm lower is insignificant.Maybe the '16 - 6 speed will eliminate one fuel stop on these adventures! :bike: --G
Well, if the updated gearbox shifts more smoothly than the five speed then it is worth having the change with or without the extra gear.Posted with tongue firmly planted in cheek, Fred...I'm in complete agreement, the extra gear won't do a thing for FJR fuel mileage. Pure marketing at work...I doubt the fuel mileage at highway speeds will be improved at all. The difference in engine pumping losses between an engine running at 4500 rpm and one running a few hundred rpm lower is insignificant.Maybe the '16 - 6 speed will eliminate one fuel stop on these adventures!
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I find no issue with the shifting on my outdated 2014 5-speed equipped FJR, shifts smoooooth!Well, if the updated gearbox shifts more smoothly than the five speed then it is worth having the change with or without the extra gear.
Ooops, sorry. I did not pick up on that.Posted with tongue firmly planted in cheek, Fred...I'm in complete agreement, the extra gear won't do a thing for FJR fuel mileage. Pure marketing at work...I doubt the fuel mileage at highway speeds will be improved at all. The difference in engine pumping losses between an engine running at 4500 rpm and one running a few hundred rpm lower is insignificant.Maybe the '16 - 6 speed will eliminate one fuel stop on these adventures!
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MSRP is a starting point. If this bike is particularly well received (and therefore in high demand) dealers will be sitting on MSRP. If (for example) the new gearbox has a problem and has to be recalled due to some engineering oversight, they may be sitting in dealership showrooms and sell for less than the prior model year bikes in the end.MSRP = B.S.
They get what they can get.
Important use of the space, there, because your '13 is definitely not worthless. But, even if all they had done was change the paint color, releasing a new model year bike always makes all of our bikes worth less. Unfortunately, they just do not appreciate in value.(This will make my '13 worth less)
Most likely, your bike is actually worth less today in December, than it will be in March when the 2016 is released. The new model will initially sell at MSRP as all new bikes do, until the initial demand is met and the excitement wanes by mid-year. At that point (like every year), discounts will appear, and will get steeper as we get closer to a new model year introduction. About that time, a 2014 ES is going to look like a bargain to me. That's how I roll.Important use of the space, there, because your '13 is definitely not worthless. But, even if all they had done was change the paint color, releasing a new model year bike always makes all of our bikes worth less. Unfortunately, they just do not appreciate in value.(This will make my '13 worth less)
Well that good news. I hope my bank account will feel the same way. I need to crunch some numbers.Yeah, I did. Sort of. If I listened correctly it's not that they've come up with a set price but rather a percentage increase over whatever the '15's NA MSRP is currently. He didn't offer what that percentage point is and I didn't ask but I believe it isn't anything too significant.Did you ask about the price or maybe get a feel if there was going big price increase or not?
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