TomInPA
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Since when did a FNG opinion without any backing at all matter that much? This place has gone soft.
2016 Is Official 6-spd, Slipper, LEDs, Analog Tach, Price
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Since when did a FNG opinion without any backing at all matter that much? This place has gone soft.
El Toro Joe
FYYFF
My 06 is also the same color, as the 12 and new 16...05 was a different blue. I suppose you'd like to see another shade of silver...with 17 post's you haven't even earned an opinion.
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FJRPittsburgh
Rally Addict
Excellent pics and write up. Good job. Now I want one damn you.
Damn. I sure hope there are some left over '16's still around at the beginning of next year.
sath182
Well-known member
You and me both! Or used ones in 2-3 years... After 3 hrs in the pitch dark backwoods last night, I decided that I will be needing the cornering lights for deer spotting. That and the SV is not the bike for a 4hr ride to get TO the mountains. Now where's my lottery ticket?
Geezer
Parsimonious Curmudgeon
Personally, I prefer the Bass Boat Blue on the '05 over the more subdued Cobalt Blue. And I really like the red on the '14 and came very close to replacing my well used '05 for a '14, but my checkbook was able to breathe a sigh of relief when I had the will power to let it pass. Color would not be important if I had no options, but since I do not 'need' a new FJR, I can wait for the new red '17 model.
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BakerBoy
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Geezer, the '17 will be British Racing Green. 
yanktar
Over the hill--and going faster!
British racing green is my least favorite color.
Why would anyone design a 6-speed with a taller 1st and 2nd? Usually 6-speeds are to give a lower first, closer ratios and an overdrive 6th. Why else?
Why would anyone design a 6-speed with a taller 1st and 2nd? Usually 6-speeds are to give a lower first, closer ratios and an overdrive 6th. Why else?
Geezer
Parsimonious Curmudgeon
I like British Racing Green, on small sports cars, but not so much on a motorcycle.Geezer, the '17 will be British Racing Green.
RaYzerman19
Go Wings!
Discovered this recently..... so who among you wanted stock seats? Really?
https://fjrsource.com/fjr-poll-responses/
https://fjrsource.com/fjr-poll-responses/
mcatrophy
Privileged to ride a 2018 FJR1300AS
Those of us who don't spend more than eight hours in the saddle and don't weigh well over 300 pounds
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bergmen
Well-known member
This "red vehicles will get you more tickets" rumor has been debunked a million times for years. Color makes NO difference whether you get pulled over or not.The only one I might avoid is the 14 with that police attracting "Arrest Me Red" paint...
Dan
yanktar
Over the hill--and going faster!
British Racing Green? Not enough "l"s in "Dulllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll!"
Now Kawasaki green is great!
Black? Worst color for summer riding. Basic physics. Black=hot as in burnt-flesh hot!
Now Kawasaki green is great!
Black? Worst color for summer riding. Basic physics. Black=hot as in burnt-flesh hot!
SkooterG
Purveyor of Crooked Facts
Guess what I saw today.
IMS - New York.
A rep came over after a few moments and I ended up having a truly nice conversation about the bike. A fellow FJR owner and just a pleasant guy to talk to, he took the time to answer whatever questions I had and pointed out a few other things too. I'll let Skooter vouch for his credentials but I feel pretty confident saying Ashley knew what he was talking about.
The trans, gearing and clutch came up almost immediately and we both acknowledged that the FJR didn't 'need' a sixth gear but as he pointed out, it doesn't hurt also. From his test rides he felt sixth dropped the RPMs enough to notice but with no detriment to the others, that is it still took off like a shot and pulled through them just as we like. He talked some about the helical gears and the benefits there, including not having to increase the space needed and screwing with the engine. He saw no downside to the slipper clutch.
We talked somewhat about the lighting also. As we know the adaptive lighting (ES models only) operates in turns via a gyroscope type of sensor. Simply turning the key on will not activate the system. The bike must be moving forward at about 15 MPH and then the amount of lean will determine how many of the LED lights will illuminate on the leaning side. As the bike straightens up, the lights will sequentially extinguish. Cool system but it makes me chuckle as I think about what kind of light show another rider leading an ES through a set of twisties would get in his mirrors.I'm thinking headlight modulators might be a bit much there. Oh, I believe he confirmed the electrical system hasn't changed either so there should be a nice jump in excess power for us to use.
Ashley is one Hell of a guy. Butt Ugly, but one Hell of a guy. I just wish I lived closer to him so I could become his "best friend that he never really wanted or never really needed".
You were extremely lucky to get to speak with Ashley. He doesn't do a lot of these events. And I feel extremely confident in saying that you spoke with the one individual in North America who knows the most about the 2016 FJR1300. I'm jealous. Extremely jealous. Had I known, I would have had you give him a big kiss for me.
Kudos for bringing us the info and piccies from the New York IMS.
Three things I took away from that poll.
1. I can't believe only 4 ppl choose yellow. The rest lack appreciation for the finer things in life.
2. The "Trooper Mod" (one of our own) is now recognized as a legit exhaust choice.
3. Neither Skooter nor Iggy participated in that poll. I see Skooter weighed in on that already.
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My first BBG was 1641 mi.s using just a stock tank. An out n back from central MN to Billings and back. The 1 hr rest/break helped though.
I doubt the fuel mileage at highway speeds will be improved at all. The difference in engine pumping losses between an engine running at 4500 rpm and one running a few hundred rpm lower is insignificant.Maybe the '16 - 6 speed will eliminate one fuel stop on these adventures!
--G
sath182
Well-known member
It's also not a variable volume crank case like a V-twin, so I expect any pumping losses are biased towards intake restriction. And that's effected more by airbox/intake tuning than RPM.I doubt the fuel mileage at highway speeds will be improved at all. The difference in engine pumping losses between an engine running at 4500 rpm and one running a few hundred rpm lower is insignificant.Maybe the '16 - 6 speed will eliminate one fuel stop on these adventures!
--G
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Steel_Gin
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Did you ask about the price or maybe get a feel if there was going big price increase or not?Guess what I saw today.
IMS - New York. In the back of my mind I figured there was a 50-50 shot of a '16 being there so I brought the camera along just in case. (After downloading the shots and realizing just how bad my photography skills are though I probably should've just stuck with the cell. Sorry.) They had only one and it sat towards the edge of the carpet in an unremarkable display. No banners or spotlights, just another bike in their line-up. First impression - the color is NICE! Or maybe smooth would be a better description. Somewhere between the look-at-me red and the quietly powerful grey. I know it's listed as Cobolt Blue, the same as the other two years, but it looked darker on the floor than what the pictures show. Maybe it was the lighting or the new paint. The black wheels along with the black accent panels I thought worked really well together also.
A rep came over after a few moments and I ended up having a truly nice conversation about the bike. A fellow FJR owner and just a pleasant guy to talk to, he took the time to answer whatever questions I had and pointed out a few other things too. I'll let Skooter vouch for his credentials but I feel pretty confident saying Ashley knew what he was talking about.
The trans, gearing and clutch came up almost immediately and we both acknowledged that the FJR didn't 'need' a sixth gear but as he pointed out, it doesn't hurt also. From his test rides he felt sixth dropped the RPMs enough to notice but with no detriment to the others, that is it still took off like a shot and pulled through them just as we like. He talked some about the helical gears and the benefits there, including not having to increase the space needed and screwing with the engine. He saw no downside to the slipper clutch.
We talked somewhat about the lighting also. As we know the adaptive lighting (ES models only) operates in turns via a gyroscope type of sensor. Simply turning the key on will not activate the system. The bike must be moving forward at about 15 MPH and then the amount of lean will determine how many of the LED lights will illuminate on the leaning side. As the bike straightens up, the lights will sequentially extinguish. Cool system but it makes me chuckle as I think about what kind of light show another rider leading an ES through a set of twisties would get in his mirrors.I'm thinking headlight modulators might be a bit much there. Oh, I believe he confirmed the electrical system hasn't changed either so there should be a nice jump in excess power for us to use.
Not sure small hands will help you here.
One other thing he pointed out which he didn't believe made any of the published releases is that this bike now utilizes OBD II with the port located under the seat. Strange or not, I thought of Ionbeam immediately.
I went there thinking that if I did get to see it, I was prepared to go, "meh" and then hope to look for a left-over '15. BUT . . . it might have changed my mind. We'll find out this Spring I suppose.
A few other pics here.
The past four years didn't they post the price the same time they announce then new model year? I think they did. Has me thinking there might be a big increase.......I hope not. With all of the updates since my '12 this is going to be hard to resist.
Yes. This year is a bit different. But I think it's more to do with their relative lateness announcing compared to past years and less likely to do with a big increase.
As I've noted before inflation has been low and the FJR price has remained fairly consistent over time with addition of features and/or generation changes. I predict $17,500 or less for the ES.
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