600 Mile Check-up

[Just Plain Dave]

My FJR just turned 600 miles. I changed the motor oil and the final gear oil. Is there anything else required in order to fulfill the requirements of the extended warranty? The dealer says they will do the checkup for $195. (labor only) I hate to hand them $195 just to do the TBS and oil cables, when it is running perfect. They probably wouldn't do anything anyway except collect the money, but I don't want to take a chance on voiding my warranty.

 

[Randy]

I don't want to take a chance on voiding my warranty.

Your warranty doesn't require that the dealer does the work. Go through the 600 mile checklist in your owners manual if you want, but, if you're anything like me, you won't wait to hit a certain mile point before you start looking at stuff.

Remember - there isn't anything magical on the bike that tells it how many miles are on it and how long you have until the next check up.

 

[Just Plain Dave]

I will definitely check things on a regular (and often) basis. I was mainly concerned about the TBS adjustment. It is recommended at the 600 mile mark. The dealer said he would do the TBS for $70, but if the bike is running perfect. I just don't see the sense in fooling with it. Just want to be sure the warranty doesn't require it.

 

[Randy]

Unless I'm really missing something, nothing is going to break by not having a TBS done. It simply equalizes the throttle bodies so it's throwing the same amount of stuff into each of the combustion chambers.

 

[markjenn]

I bought my bike at a far-away dealer and did the 600-miler on the way home w/o the TB sync. If the bike is running fine, it's not a big deal, but I would do it eventually, just for the best running bike. TB sync on the FJR is child's play if you have the right tools.

I can't see a scenario where Yamaha would deny warranty coverage because of a missed TB sync. It's more a smooth-running-engine thing, not a preventative maintenance thing.

Everyone is correct that doing your own maintenance is legally acceptable from a warranty standpoint, but dealer servicing does make warranty claims more straightforward. Personally, I do all my own work and an not going to worry about it. But I doubt I'm going to spring for YES, so it's just a one-year period anyway.

- Mark

 

[Just Plain Dave]

Thanks for the input. I will buy myself an economy carb tuner and do it myself when I think it may help. And to my dealer

 

[TexasTigress]

Well, well, another owner who thinks the dealer charge for the inital (600) mile service is totally overblown. :aggressive:

Good !

In retro(jet) perspective from post-purchase of a 2005, I wish I would have read someof the things on this site BEFORE I bought the bike.

Anyway, enough final gear oil spilled ....

When I called my dealer, the fee for the first tune was to be $210. It gave me yet another reason to work on my next techno-project, which I call simply "The Stranglephone."

When you get that inane "support staff" on the other line, or just someone who dispenses some glop that drips of overcharge, you actually reach into the phone, kinda like a Matrix hyper-move, and wa-la, you have your tight fingers around said idiot's throat.

:diablo:

That said, hearing the price of the tune, and the cost of a simple oil and filer change (oh yes, and the high-dollar crush washer), motivated me to get greasy myself. Oh, I mean with the bike....

So, I figure that I will do the final gear oil change (already did the oil and filter and crush washer), and check to see what the TBS will be.

:rant:

Maybe the price of the bike as new is what the fascists use to determine the maintenance charges ? A secret percentage ?

I'm hesitant to do the TBS myself, since I don't have a fancy required gadget yet, but I've checked prices on the web, and it ain't too bad. Plus, it would give me another chance to feel mastery over a machine ..... which has a lot of power between my legs !

Gotta love it !!!

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[FJRocha]

Howdy gal

Doing the TBS is not difficult, there is a thread in this forum with great information on how to do it. Clickity here

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[FJRocket]

Agree with all the wrenches that have posted that they DIY on maintenance. I was looking at 2 bills to get the initial break in maintnenance completed. I bought some parts from FJRGoodies and CalSportTouring, and never looked back.

Sychronizing the TB's is a little wonky until you get used to using the carb tuner. Then it becomes pretty much child's play. Did mine again back around 4K. Coming up on 9K and the CFO (maybe) and the EOM (definitely), so I'll probably sync them again before I hit the road for the trip(s). Heck the Motion Pro economy tuner was only $35, and the job took less than an hour the second time. I figure I'm money ahead.

Yes, I highly recommend you visit FJRTech.com and read through all the maintenance links. There's a LOT of stuff there that can help you do your own work, without even having to buy the service manual. SWEET!

 

[FJRME]

As for the carb tuner- I want to buy the economy tuner, but are there issues with the mercury? I'm ugly enough. I don't need some strange growth coming out the side of my neck!! I have seen the Morgan tuner- I like the idea of steel rods, but at a little over twice as much, is it worth it? With the economy, replacement mercury is about twenty bucks. How often does it need to be replaced? Only if it spills out? Is storage of the mercury/tuner difficult? With all this to ponder, maybe I SHOULD just cut loose with the dough and buy the Morgan. Help me folks!!!

 

[escapefjrtist]

Only two times you'll need to replace mercury is if you pull it into the engine or spill it. Mercury doesn't wear out. I leave the economy tuner hanging up, with the hoses supported.... The economy is well, economy, but it works well enough.

--G

 

[lomaxcm]

Wow are the service costs really that expensive on the FJR? :huh: Why can't they be real cheap like on my BMW or Ducati? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just messing with Y'all. Do your own maintenance if you can.

My FJR is still scheduled for a June delivery. I guess they forgot to tell me which year. :dribble:

Ride Safe.

Marc

 

[Espia4ci]

I try to do all the maintenance that isn't over my head. I also follow the service manual and try to check everything that is mentioned in the service manual. I doubt a dealer mechanic would actually do that.

 

[super d]

As mush as the shops charge for labor you are better off just buying the tools your self. I stopped by my local Yam/Kaw shop to get a quote on fork seal replacement on my Concours if I bring in the forks only...removed from the bike, over $100 for labor only not including parts (seals & oil)! :angry:

I'll buy or make the seal drivers myself thank you <_<

It would seem if you had an older bike it would not take very much to "total it out" with repair costs if you had to take it to a dealer!

 

[Yambone]

Here is HMarc's checklist for the 600-mile service. Mostly visual, not that tough.

https://www.fjr1300.info/maint/600.html

The TBS would be the biggest cost, takes about 20-minutes if you know what you are doing. My dealer did my first service, I have reason to believe they didn't change out the oil filter, and likely didn't do the TBS. They haven't touched the bike since, as I do my own service now, thanks to the board(s). I document my services using HMarc's check lists, save receipts, etc. So warranty still in effect.

For any important work, find a knowledgable FJR service-oriented dealer. I will take my Feejer to Sunnyside (Washington state) dealership for the 26K-mile valve adjust. It's a day's drive but worth it to be done right. There are some other good ones out there, like the Yamaha dealer in Texarkana, TX, and University motors in Fargo, ND.

 

[radman]

Doing the TBS on the Feej is as simple as they come, far more so than any carb equipped bike, even an HD, which can be a real bitch....

 

[BlueWing]

While we're discussing the 600 mile checkup...is there a crush washer on the final drive drain plug? I didn't really look or even think about it until I had refilled the drive, then I thought "was that a crush washer?"

 

[XJRGUY]

Yes,

There is a crush washer on the rear diff plug.

 

[BlueWing]

Thanks for the quick reply. Okay, back to the dealer for another washer and then a refill. Good thing the stuff comes in a large bottle. LOL