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Fred H.

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After a few weeks with the bike, I would like to air a few greivances I have with the FJR.

First off, I would like to compliment Yamaha on fixing the heat issue. It does indeed appear to be resolved. Overall it really is a great bike, but I think there is still room for improvement as there are still a couple nagging issues.

The bike still is pretty top heavy, especially when full of gas. They need to work on mass centeralization. Starting with moving the battery to where it belongs, under the seat. This would also enable you to have another glove box on the right side like most bikes have. The fuse boxes also need to be redesigned (larger) and moved under the seat where they belong.

I would also like to see the gas tank moved to under the seat as well like Honda does. This would really help all handling aspects and would get rid of the tipsy feeling the bike has.

The sidestand and spring need to be redesigned. The sidestand does not lock forward like it should when deployed. I think if they moved the anchor point for the spring forward a half inch on the frame, it would make the sidestand lock more securely when deployed.

The saddlebag latching mechanism should be rethought. It shouldn't take two hands to close a saddlebag. The latches never seem to want to line up properly, and I think part of the problem is that the hinges flex too much.

Find the whistle in the windshield and fix it. Widen the windshield and inch on the sides while you are at it.

Add some built in tip over protection for the bags and fairing.

The throttle return springs are way too stiff and need to be lightened.

The seat contour needs to be changed. Most folks I know don't have flat butts, so why is the seat flat? Shouldn't it be cupped a bit?

Why aren't the turn signals integrated into the backs of the mirrors? Seems like they would be much more visible there instead of on the fairing.

The ignition key seems to be made out of chocolate. Coudn't you make it out of real metal that doesn't bend every time Uri Geller looks at it?

The backs of the saddlebags seem like they need something added to make the bike more visible in daytime riding from the rear. Maybe some optional lighting on them would be nice to make the bike appear wider from the rear and give off a better rear light signature.

Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of things I like about the bike, I just think it could be improved on. I like the gauge pack and instrumentation, and the air temp and MPG is a nice touch. I won't even ding them for the stuck 17mpg instant MPG as I hear they are already working to fix it. The transmission and engine I am happy with as they are and have no complaints on. I like the adjustability of the rear shock and front forks and am happy with the suspension and brakes.

 
Whoa Fred, is that all?!

You really date yourself with that Uri Geller comment. Another Boomer!

I remember getting flamed mercilessly when I got my '05 and dared to say that it needed a better windshield (CeeBailey fixed that) and comlained that my hands would never be able to take the hard

rubber grips on the bars (ProGrip fixed that). I was feeling too much vibe through them.

I wonder what kind of barrage you'll get. Or if anybody will even bother, after all, weren't you the one that was thinking about getting rid of the bike, anyway.

The FJR is my "Goldilocks." You are used to that big ass Wing, but even the ST1300 is too big for me.

I've owned Connies (as you have), and Trophies (the 9 and the 12), and I've ridden the Sprint ST and the ZZR12 extensively. The FJR is not too hot, not too cold, not too hard, not too soft...

Perfection doesn't exist on this plane of existence, which is obviously the reason why you have this forum and all of the nuts, koo-koos and junkies that you have here always raving insanely about this bike. Aren't you tired of reading about all of those frustrated waiters? (I bought mine from the showroom). Don't you just hate the way they're always farkling with their bikes? Insane! The whole lot.

Obviously, Yamaha wouldn't still be selling this bike here in the States if they didn't have a real good reason...or bothering to improve it. YES, there must be a reason... :yahoo:

 
Wow....want me to call the wambulance? All those changes you want? They are all coming on the 07 model. lolol

 
Fred, better sell that prick before it drives you into therapy. Lotta bitchin' going on.

 
Fred H. Posted

After a few weeks with the bike, I would like to air a few greivances I have with the FJR
vinnie Posted

Whoa Fred, is that all?!
Fred: interesting -- alot of the critiques you describe would necessitate a completely new model, I'm thinking? You know, that mass centralisation thing? -- pretty much describes the H**** ST 11/1300 (as well as a couple other items mentioned) -- did you look at them? Also the FJR is what it is and may be liked/appreciated for that -- iow, the handling/feel that it has may be precisely what its owners want?

btw, you didn't mention MamaYama's PDP -- you okay with that? :unsure:

 
Well, I will tell you one thing that I am definetly impressed with, and that is Yamaha's willingness to listen to owners and fix problems. In the few short years that the FJR1300 has been around, it has already been updated twice. And here we are just a few weeks into the 06 deliveries and Yamaha has already acknowledged the stuck instant MPG on 17 and say they are working on a fix.

I know BMW owners that gripped for years about transmission and lean surge issues, and BMW stuck it's head in the sand and refused to even acknowlege them. I have seen Kawasaki and Honda do the same thing when problems or warts arose on various models. I am really glad to see Yamaha took action on the heat issue and made ABS standard and appear to be listening to customer complaints. I hope they continue to do so.

But I still say that battery location is just plain insane.

 
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I agree with you Fred, but I'm sure there are patent rights out there as far as creating "designs" that mimic competitors farkles, that yamaha doesn't want to shake legal ripples. I do think however, that yamaha has addressed immediate problems to its owners of FJR in a timely way, since its only been out a few years here in the states. Overall, yamaha's spectrum is the sport side of touring, and refinement of cosmetics will always catch up every two years. Now where & when can do I put my 2008 FJR deposit, anyone?

 
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PRESS RELEASE - FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

CONTACT: Fred H.

HEADLINE: New '06 FJR Owner to Lead Yamaha

Dallas, Texas, 5/1/2006 - It was announced today that Fred H. of FJRForum.com will immediately become CEO of Yamaha Motor Corporation and oversee design, production, and sales of all motorcycles including the FJR 1300. Because he complained loudly about all the problems on his '06 while casually extolling a few virtues the entire world thought he should be in charge of the company.

Fred said, "I was happy they finally got the heat issue fixed. It was a pain-in-the-ass riding around town in my shorts and flip-flops. My calf hair was getting cooked. Now we need to get to work lightening this pig up so it's better than an R1."

Fred's resume is completely unknown at this time, but it's likely he stayed at a Holiday Inn last night and since he posted at least 11 nitpicks he should be able to run the company just fine.

Fred's longtime neighbor Barney was most supportive about Fred's accumen in diagnosing and fixing problems of others. "We were watching an NFL game just last weekend and from the comfort of Fred's Barcalounger, he was able to easily point out a referee's bad call from slow motion replay and was adamant he could do it better than the **** in the black and white."

No Yamaha employees could be reached for comment, but one from Tokyo e-mailed, "Fred-san is amazing. All of us have flat ***** and we thought the rest of the world was like this. We can't wait to take a mold of his butt and fix the seat to work for everybody else, because his ass must be shaped like the rest of North America."

It's unclear if Fred is moving to Japan where the motorcycles are currently made or if worldwide production is being moved to Fort Worth. Regardless, Mike's daughter commented, "Daddy rules! He said as soon as he fixes the FJR he's going to build me my own spaceship that runs on canola oil."

YAMAHA MOTOR CORPORATION is is a worldwide corporation that manufactures incredible motorcycles including the FJR that now can't tip over because it has training wheels integrated into the frame.

 
It is always such a joy to be part of a motorcycle community forum where folks can share thoughts and information and fixes to problems, especially when the forum adminstrators actually encourage involvement and welcome new members into the fold and folks don't belittle everyone else that posts anything.

I'm just so happy to have found this place.

 
Fred H. Posted<snip>

...BMW owners that gripped for years about ... lean surge issues, and BMW stuck it's head in the sand and refused to even acknowlege them
BMWNA contends that there is no "lean surge" -- and that it's merely a conspiracy by a few vocal internet malcontents.

I am really glad to see Yamaha took action...
Like BMW, Yamaha Cypress has taken a somewhat similar stance (publically) visavis the premature exhaust valve guide wear/failure issue.

So?, I guess?. "Ya pays your money and ya takes your choice..." :unsure:

 
somebody help the radman -chill pill, please!

and where do I get the training wheels for the FJR, I didn't know you could get those! :p

 
PRESS RELEASE - FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
CONTACT: Fred H.

HEADLINE: New '06 FJR Owner to Lead Yamaha

Dallas, Texas, 5/1/2006 - It was announced today that Fred H. of FJRForum.com will immediately become CEO of Yamaha Motor Corporation and oversee design, production, and sales of all motorcycles including the FJR 1300. Because he complained loudly about all the problems on his '06 while casually extolling a few virtues the entire world thought he should be in charge of the company.

Fred said, "I was happy they finally got the heat issue fixed. It was a pain-in-the-ass riding around town in my shorts and flip-flops. My calf hair was getting cooked. Now we need to get to work lightening this pig up so it's better than an R1."

Fred's resume is completely unknown at this time, but it's likely he stayed at a Holiday Inn last night and since he posted at least 11 nitpicks he should be able to run the company just fine.

Fred's longtime neighbor Barney was most supportive about Fred's accumen in diagnosing and fixing problems of others. "We were watching an NFL game just last weekend and from the comfort of Fred's Barcalounger, he was able to easily point out a referee's bad call from slow motion replay and was adamant he could do it better than the **** in the black and white."

No Yamaha employees could be reached for comment, but one from Tokyo e-mailed, "Fred-san is amazing. All of us have flat ***** and we thought the rest of the world was like this. We can't wait to take a mold of his butt and fix the seat to work for everybody else, because his ass must be shaped like the rest of North America."

It's unclear if Fred is moving to Japan where the motorcycles are currently made or if worldwide production is being moved to Fort Worth. Regardless, Mike's daughter commented, "Daddy rules! He said as soon as he fixes the FJR he's going to build me my own spaceship that runs on canola oil."

YAMAHA MOTOR CORPORATION is is a worldwide corporation that manufactures incredible motorcycles including the FJR that now can't tip over because it has training wheels integrated into the frame.

So, what, this replaces skooter's tongue kisses for the noobs? :haha:

Funny as hell though! :lol:

 
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