El Toro
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Advice needed buying used bike outside Calif.
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I bought my 06 FJR (49 state model) from someone in Ohio and had it shipped to California. I only had the title. Took it to DMV and they verified mileage (over 7500) and the VIN by looking at it and that was that. I did not have the registration. Tell the buyer to contact the DMV customer service department at (800) 777-0133 and have them walk him through it.
Here is a link to someone who registered a motorcycle barn find in California that had no paperwork whatsoever! Its not that big of a deal. Especially for an old bike if its over 25 years old.
https://www.xs650.com/threads/barn-find-registration-in-california.862/
If your buyer is that skittish I would sell it to someone else. Buying and registering my 06 FJR with only a title was my problem to take care of. Not the guy in Ohio that I bought it from.
Here is a link to someone who registered a motorcycle barn find in California that had no paperwork whatsoever! Its not that big of a deal. Especially for an old bike if its over 25 years old.
https://www.xs650.com/threads/barn-find-registration-in-california.862/
If your buyer is that skittish I would sell it to someone else. Buying and registering my 06 FJR with only a title was my problem to take care of. Not the guy in Ohio that I bought it from.
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dcarver
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Straight from CA DMV website -
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Hi Gary - good stuff here
Buying a Vehicle From Out of State - Can You Register it in California? (FFVR 29)
En español
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The Bottom LineIf you are a California resident and acquire a new car, truck, or motorcycle from another state, it must be certified to meet California smog laws to be registered in California. This includes certain diesel-powered vehicles. DMV cannot accept an application to register a vehicle in California that does not qualify for registration (California Health and Safety Code §§43150 - 43156).
What Is Considered a New Vehicle?California considers any vehicle with less than 7,500 miles on the odometer at the time of purchase or trade by a California resident or business, to be a new vehicle. This is true whether or not the vehicle has been registered in another state.
Aren't All Vehicles California Certified?Not all new vehicles are manufactured to be sold in California. Many manufacturers make vehicles to be sold only in the other 49 states. These vehicles (49-state) are made with smog equipment that meets federal emission standards, but not California standards. California-certified (50-state) vehicles are made to be sold in California.
Check the LabelTo find out whether a car, truck, or motorcycle is California certified, check the emission label under the hood. For a motorcycle, check the frame or refer to your owner' s manual for the location. The label should read that the vehicle conforms to California regulations, or that it is legal for sale in California. Mine was under the seat on top of rear fender.
ExemptionsThere are a few exemptions to the law. As a California resident, you may be able to register a 49-state vehicle if it was:
Does This Apply to Someone Moving to California?If you are moving to California from another state, you may register a new 49-state vehicle if it was first registered by you in your home state, or for military personnel, in the last state of your military service. When applying for vehicle registration in California, you must provide evidence that the vehicle was registered.
Vehicles Purchased From Out of the Country (Grey Market)California has special requirements for vehicles imported from other countries (including Canada and Mexico). It may be very costly or impossible to modify these vehicles to meet California emission requirements and/or federal motor vehicle safety standards (FMVSS). No direct import vehicle less than two years old can be converted to California emission standards. Not all direct import vehicles over two years old can be converted to California emission standards and FMVSS. No motorcycle or diesel-powered vehicle can be converted to California emission standards. For details, contact the California Air Resources Board (ARB).
Drive CleanAre you looking to reduce your carbon footprint, save money on gas or just contribute less to smog? DriveClean.ca.gov is California' s buying guide for clean and efficient vehicles. Since motor vehicles are responsible for more than half of the smog and global warming pollution in California, the vehicle you buy directly impacts air quality, global warming, and energy security.
Visit DriveClean.ca.gov for more information about the Environmental Performance Label, to compare scores and to find the latest incentives.
More Information on...
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Hi Gary - good stuff here
Buying a Vehicle From Out of State - Can You Register it in California? (FFVR 29)
En español
PDF Version
The Bottom LineIf you are a California resident and acquire a new car, truck, or motorcycle from another state, it must be certified to meet California smog laws to be registered in California. This includes certain diesel-powered vehicles. DMV cannot accept an application to register a vehicle in California that does not qualify for registration (California Health and Safety Code §§43150 - 43156).
What Is Considered a New Vehicle?California considers any vehicle with less than 7,500 miles on the odometer at the time of purchase or trade by a California resident or business, to be a new vehicle. This is true whether or not the vehicle has been registered in another state.
Aren't All Vehicles California Certified?Not all new vehicles are manufactured to be sold in California. Many manufacturers make vehicles to be sold only in the other 49 states. These vehicles (49-state) are made with smog equipment that meets federal emission standards, but not California standards. California-certified (50-state) vehicles are made to be sold in California.
Check the LabelTo find out whether a car, truck, or motorcycle is California certified, check the emission label under the hood. For a motorcycle, check the frame or refer to your owner' s manual for the location. The label should read that the vehicle conforms to California regulations, or that it is legal for sale in California. Mine was under the seat on top of rear fender.
ExemptionsThere are a few exemptions to the law. As a California resident, you may be able to register a 49-state vehicle if it was:
- Obtained as part of a divorce, inheritance, or legal separation settlement.
- Purchased to replace your California-registered vehicle that was stolen while you were using the vehicle out-of-state.
- Purchased to replace your California-registered vehicle that was destroyed or made inoperative beyond reasonable repair while you were using the vehicle out of state.
- An emergency vehicle, pursuant to California Vehicle Code § §27156.2 and 27156.3.
- Registered by you in the state of your last active military service outside California.
- A street motorcycle or motor-driven cycle year model 2005 and older, with an engine less than 50 cubic centimeters (cc) displacement. Beginning January 1, 2006, street motorcycles and motor-driven cycles year model 2006 and newer, with engines less than 50 cc displacement, require an emission label certifying them to meet U.S. Environmental Protection Agency emission regulations, and may be registered regardless of mileage.
Does This Apply to Someone Moving to California?If you are moving to California from another state, you may register a new 49-state vehicle if it was first registered by you in your home state, or for military personnel, in the last state of your military service. When applying for vehicle registration in California, you must provide evidence that the vehicle was registered.
Vehicles Purchased From Out of the Country (Grey Market)California has special requirements for vehicles imported from other countries (including Canada and Mexico). It may be very costly or impossible to modify these vehicles to meet California emission requirements and/or federal motor vehicle safety standards (FMVSS). No direct import vehicle less than two years old can be converted to California emission standards. Not all direct import vehicles over two years old can be converted to California emission standards and FMVSS. No motorcycle or diesel-powered vehicle can be converted to California emission standards. For details, contact the California Air Resources Board (ARB).
Drive CleanAre you looking to reduce your carbon footprint, save money on gas or just contribute less to smog? DriveClean.ca.gov is California' s buying guide for clean and efficient vehicles. Since motor vehicles are responsible for more than half of the smog and global warming pollution in California, the vehicle you buy directly impacts air quality, global warming, and energy security.
Visit DriveClean.ca.gov for more information about the Environmental Performance Label, to compare scores and to find the latest incentives.
More Information on...
- California residency and vehicle importation laws and requirements visit DMV online at www.dmv.ca.gov or call the DMV Technical Compliance Section at (916) 657-6795.
- California Smog Check program, visit the Bureau of Automotive Repairs online at www.smogcheck.ca.gov or call 1-800-952-5210.
- California smog laws, grey-market vehicles, and 49-state vehicles, visit ARB online at www.arb.ca.gov or call 1-800-242-4450.
- Off-highway vehicle registration, see the How to Register an Off-highway Vehicle (HTVR 19) brochure at www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/brochures/howto/htvr19.htm.
So any vehicle with more than 7,500 miles on the odometer at the time of purchase or trade by a California resident or business, is a used vehicle. It drops into different rules.
Your bike is old. It's a 1972 so to quote from another CA DMV source "Permanent exemption from smog requirements is based on the year-model of the vehicle (i.e. manufactured prior to 1976 year-model)". You are exempt from SMOG certification. You can call toll free the California DMV customer service department at (800) 777-0133 to verify.
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