Are we just that good?

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there are old riders

there are bold riders

there are few old, bold riders

 

[SouthernCruizer]

Hard to draw much comparing forums on their crash stats. Too many variables. A local forum will tend to have members more likely to talk about incidents as compared to a national audience. And sport-touring bikes have better crash stats than sportbikes or smaller hooligan bikes.
My experience is that the FJR is a somewhat higher than normal crash frequency bike within its genre. Its relatively low price and value attracts a lot of relatively novice riders and the weight, smooth power and deceptive speed draws folks in over their head pretty easily. And if you do overcook a corner, it doesn't have a surplus of cornering clearance to bail you out. But I readily admit I don't have any hard data and could be completely wrong. The insurance companies are probably the only ones with such data.

- Mark

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+1 on the somewhat higher than normal. By far, I see more crash stories on this forum than I have on the other bike forums I have been a part of. What really surprises me is that I also see more posts selling ATGATT compared to the other forums, yet crash stories on this forum seem to be very high. Go figure.

 

[Yamma Jamma]

There's gonna be a few wrecks to talk about anywhere. We ride a very balanced and sure footed motorcycle based on racing bikes that isn't a racing bike. It stops and corners great but we don't buy it exclusively for that. Handles great, brakes great, but it is not bought by people who tend to max it out....all the time...generally speaking.

No surprise that there are fewer wrecks. Car pulls out in front of you at 60 mph on an 800 pound floaty cruiser without abs...a whole different story than an FJR. Generally speaking, we're not going to enter the freeway ramp at 90 tucked into a racing position when a pick up truck stalls on the ramp either.

We are cruisers on performance bikes....that play a little.

 

[Spook]

Dirt riding don't count

Oh good! My getoff last week resulting in a rapidly blackening lower leg and foot didn't happen! Yeah!... ahhh it's still there.

Don't play stupid, dirt riding is t whole different ball game. If you are pushing it in the dirt you are much more likely to go down then on the street. Silly little things like holes filled with soft dirt etc.

 

[ShinyPartsUp]

Dirt riding don't count

Oh good! My getoff last week resulting in a rapidly blackening lower leg and foot didn't happen! Yeah!... ahhh it's still there.

Don't play stupid, dirt riding is t whole different ball game. If you are pushing it in the dirt you are much more likely to go down then on the street. Silly little things like holes filled with soft dirt etc.

I guess I dhould have added one of these:

 

[Spook]

Dirt riding don't count

Oh good! My getoff last week resulting in a rapidly blackening lower leg and foot didn't happen! Yeah!... ahhh it's still there.

Don't play stupid, dirt riding is t whole different ball game. If you are pushing it in the dirt you are much more likely to go down then on the street. Silly little things like holes filled with soft dirt etc.

I guess I dhould have added one of these:

I don't think there was hardly a ride that I did not go down on the dirt when I was pushing hard.

 

[Toecutter]

See what I mean? More local forum follies, from today...

I was one of two persons who recieved a ticket. it wasnt good 93 in a 55 on Aubrey before the first gas station (Valero). The rider went down on the 2nd sweeping turn going into Aubrey sweepers. I think he is ok. his finger looked jacked up and he scrapped his knee was all. thank goodness for that.

On the bright side, the guy who crashed his ST got an FJR!

Anybody know this bike?:

I want some of those trick Soltek covers!

 

[buf2phx]

there are old ridersthere are bold riders

there are few old, bold riders

That's the same saying we use in skydiving. Sometimes people just bite off more than they can chew.

Mike

 

[Gerry.GEG]

Went to HyderSeek 2009 earlier in the month. The only accident was on the way (don't know if he was going to Hyder or not) but the guy was on a cruiser type towing a trailer. He had an issue with a stopped vehicle and went into a ditch. He was airlifted out with possible internal injuries and maybe a broken hip. All of the LD riders meeting in Hyder have more appropriate bikes for touring such as Wings, BMW RT's, FJR's, and other Beemers. I would guess that most of the bikes had ABS.

Although, I can't say that this wreck could have been avoided by all riders and I would not assume this either; I am a firm believer that what you ride has a direct bearing on how you might avoid an accident. The FJR and similar Sport Tourers (IMHO) are superior to most of the bikes being sold in the U.S. now, ie; cruisers. I felt confident that I could avoid animals and such on my trip there and back.

Coming back alive is the most important aspect of riding a motorcycle to me.

 

[Toecutter]

Coming back alive is the most important aspect of riding a motorcycle to me.

 

[SouthernCruizer]

there are old ridersthere are bold riders

there are few old, bold riders

That's the same saying we use in skydiving. Sometimes people just bite off more than they can chew.

Mike

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Skyding, good till the last drop!

It's not an extreme sport unless it involves massive internal injuries!

Blue skies dude!

 

[Big Sky]

It's possible, too, that FJR riders are far more likely than other forum participants to post their crash experiences here for the instructional value. I have concluded that ST riders may be amongst the most thoughtful when it comes to riding, because we combine many aspects of the sport, but especially sometimes aggressive sport riding combined with doing it with the utmost safety possible - which is not necessarily a contradiction in terms.