Auto Cancelling Turn Signals

[FJRay]

I'm a big fan of self cancelling signals mainly because I've lost a couple friends to cars turning in front of them. Yes it was their fault for leaving the signal on but many moons ago they were put on cars for the same safety reason so why not bikes. I guess in comes down to stupid hurts but in a world where we protect many forms of stupid maybe this would be a good one.

In the old days of manual hand signals they automatically cancelled cause you needed your hand to drive the car or hold your beer.

Yamaha has had the system for a looong time so why not use it. Just might save some lives.

 

[user 6393]

my Harley has them...........love 'em!

I have to say, Yamaha has missed the boat on quite a lot as of late. Like why do we need FZs in 100cc increments? what a waste of manufacturing capability!

 

[Chiefblueman]

For $70 you can always install a Signal Dynamics self-cancelling turn signal module.
https://www.pashnit.com/product/signal_dynamics.html

Gotta have two turn signal buttons for these to work.

Self-Canceling Turn Signal Module

Designed for bikes with two turn signal buttons..

Gary's velcro idea - genius!

 

[Niehart]

Kisan works well-cancels after 40 seconds- button needs to be pressed to reset the signal for the next use. I don't want to be like some boneheads I ride with who leave their signals on for 5 miles..

Inewif, I didn't know we rode together.

 

[Panman]

I'm a big fan of self cancelling signals mainly because I've lost a couple friends to cars turning in front of them. Yes it was their fault for leaving the signal on but many moons ago they were put on cars for the same safety reason so why not bikes. I guess in comes down to stupid hurts but in a world where we protect many forms of stupid maybe this would be a good one.In the old days of manual hand signals they automatically cancelled cause you needed your hand to drive the car or hold your beer.

Yamaha has had the system for a looong time so why not use it. Just might save some lives.

Carefull Ray, you may get Addminized!

 

[RJAMT]

My GS1100 from back in the 80s had self-cancelling signals that worked quite well. None of the bikes I've owned in the last couple of decades had them. Not sure if they are being cheap or just heading backwards technologically.

 

[Old Guy]

On my ZRX the indicators are a couple of inches below the speedometer and tach, and my helmet chinbar hides them. If I do forget, it may be miles before I finally drop my head enough to notice it. For quite a while I had an LED mounted inside the fairing where I'd see it if I looked at the speedometer or tach. It could barely been seen unless it was flashing, but when the signals were on, it was very obvious and hard to miss.

The indicators on my FJR are higher and more noticeable, but I still manage to miss them from time to time.

 

[bigjohnsd]

My 03 Yamaha Roadstar Warrior had self cancellers, they do require a speed input so it is more than just a flasher or relay change, there was/is a module for them on the Warrior.

 

[FJRay]

I'm a big fan of self cancelling signals mainly because I've lost a couple friends to cars turning in front of them. Yes it was their fault for leaving the signal on but many moons ago they were put on cars for the same safety reason so why not bikes. I guess in comes down to stupid hurts but in a world where we protect many forms of stupid maybe this would be a good one.In the old days of manual hand signals they automatically cancelled cause you needed your hand to drive the car or hold your beer.

Yamaha has had the system for a looong time so why not use it. Just might save some lives.

Carefull Ray, you may get Addminized!

BTDT

 

[Old Guy]

My 03 Yamaha Roadstar Warrior had self cancellers, they do require a speed input so it is more than just a flasher or relay change, there was/is a module for them on the Warrior.

All my old Yamaha's used time and distance. The signal would flash until a set distance and a set time had been reached. Considering that the odometers were cable-operated off the front wheel, I can't see how it'd be practical to try to adapt.

It's a little frustrating to me, though, that they could do it with 70s technology and won't do it today. Considering the calculations made to handle traction control, it should be very easy.

I blame the lawyers

 

[Warpdrv]

Well basically since we have nothing left to bitch about on the latest models the only thing left for them to fix is this...

I can handle pushing the button..

Grabbing popcorn for thread diversion

 

[Old Guy]

Well basically since we have nothing left to bitch about on the latest models the only thing left for them to fix is this...
I can handle pushing the button..

Grabbing popcorn for thread diversion

I'm sure you never, ever forget to cancel your signals. But some of us mere mortals do occasionally. I seldom go on a ride with more than a couple of other people that someone doesn't ride along for some distance with a signal flashing. And as stated in the OP, it can be dangerous to ride around signaling incorrect intentions.

It's not a huge deal and certainly wasn't a deal breaker. But seriously, a bike with cruise control, traction control, ABS, yada, yada, should be able to do what Yamaha handled so capably 35+ years ago -- turn off it's own signal lights.

Now ... where's that popcorn

 

[Twigg]

All my old Yamaha's used time and distance. The signal would flash until a set distance and a set time had been reached. Considering that the odometers were cable-operated off the front wheel, I can't see how it'd be practical to try to adapt.

The Venture Royale has a speed sensor, it's an electronic signal so if a compatible signal can be found on the FJR, the swap should be easy.

 

[Warpdrv]

Well basically since we have nothing left to bitch about on the latest models the only thing left for them to fix is this...
I can handle pushing the button..

Grabbing popcorn for thread diversion

I'm sure you never, ever forget to cancel your signals. But some of us mere mortals do occasionally. I seldom go on a ride with more than a couple of other people that someone doesn't ride along for some distance with a signal flashing. And as stated in the OP, it can be dangerous to ride around signaling incorrect intentions.

It's not a huge deal and certainly wasn't a deal breaker. But seriously, a bike with cruise control, traction control, ABS, yada, yada, should be able to do what Yamaha handled so capably 35+ years ago -- turn off it's own signal lights.

Now ... where's that popcorn

I hear ya boss..... I have made it a habit to just drive down the road and mash that button all the time....

Now after upgrading to the 15, I have to retrain my muscle memory as to where it is on the bars, and get back to being a MASHER !!

 

[Old Guy]

All my old Yamaha's used time and distance. The signal would flash until a set distance and a set time had been reached. Considering that the odometers were cable-operated off the front wheel, I can't see how it'd be practical to try to adapt.

The Venture Royale has a speed sensor, it's an electronic signal so if a compatible signal can be found on the FJR, the swap should be easy.

I never had a Venture Royale and just figured it was a front-wheel, cable-operated odo like everything else I owned until 2002

 

[Twigg]

All my old Yamaha's used time and distance. The signal would flash until a set distance and a set time had been reached. Considering that the odometers were cable-operated off the front wheel, I can't see how it'd be practical to try to adapt.

The Venture Royale has a speed sensor, it's an electronic signal so if a compatible signal can be found on the FJR, the swap should be easy.

I never had a Venture Royale and just figured it was a front-wheel, cable-operated odo like everything else I owned until 2002

It is, but there is also a speed sensor. I can't recall the details of how it is wired, but I think it was at least used by by the electronic cruise control ... Yeah, it had that too

 

[Old Guy]

All my old Yamaha's used time and distance. The signal would flash until a set distance and a set time had been reached. Considering that the odometers were cable-operated off the front wheel, I can't see how it'd be practical to try to adapt.

The Venture Royale has a speed sensor, it's an electronic signal so if a compatible signal can be found on the FJR, the swap should be easy.

I never had a Venture Royale and just figured it was a front-wheel, cable-operated odo like everything else I owned until 2002

It is, but there is also a speed sensor. I can't recall the details of how it is wired, but I think it was at least used by by the electronic cruise control ... Yeah, it had that too

Oh! That's right. I forgot it had cruise control. Please work that out for us mere mortals

 

[mcatrophy]

Personally, I'd much rather stick with having to turn them off manually than have them turn off when I didn't want them to. Maybe it's a UK thing, but I often want them on in situations such as roundabouts (US: traffic circle), where I might be indicating left going on to it, wanting the first (left) exit, but I might stop waiting to go onto the roundabout, turn left to enter it, then follow round to the right, finally turn left off it. Don't want it turning off until the exit.

Nor do I want it staying on too long. Many times there are roads to left and right within a very short distance. If it used time and distance, it could easily leave the signals on for too long.

Much better (IMHO) to choose exactly when to turn them off myself.

Yes, I have occasionally left them on, I've also occasionally forgotten to do up my helmet, not zipped my trousers (pants) to my jacket, left home without my wallet.

Incidentally, leaving the indicators on in the UK motorcycle test is a fail. Of course, when I took my test, the indicators were attached to my shoulders, and cancelling them didn't seem to be an issue.

 

[Uncle Hud]

After you make your turn, shift, check mirrors, mash turn signal button.

With conscious repetition, it soon becomes subconscious -- and ALMOST like self-canceling turn signals.

But I agree: Come on, Momma Yama! The FJR is one of your headline bikes! Give us self-canceling signals and an ECU upgrade (or whatever magic you gotta pull out) to make it happen!

 

[Old Guy]

My ZRX doesn't have them either. I had it when I bought my Goldwing in 2001, so I cancelled the Goldwing manually for 11 years just to reinforce the habit for the ZRX even though it was quite capable of doing it on its own. I certainly don't mind cancelling it, and I almost never forget. I think I'm more likely to forget when I sit for an unusually long period of time at a hectic intersection.

I bought my ZRX in '99, and at that point it was the first bike I'd owned since '83 without self-cancelling signals. About the third day I owned it a guy turned left in front of me, and it was a very close call. I then realized I'd been riding along with the signal on.