mdisher
formerly Renegade, get used to it.
Be a man, get them both then use a Google Voice number to ring them both simultaneously.
Works for me at the moment
Works for me at the moment
Blackberry Bold or IPhone???
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FJR_pig
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I also have a Pearl and use this GPS function all...the...time, in addition to the Telenav navigation software that it came with. Both are very good programs that work well on all my rides, w/o fail so far.
johnny80s
Turtle Gears
+1 on the iPhone. The new 3 GS is even better. The battery is lasting longer, it is faster and the new features are nice. Email is great on the iPhone way better than my BlackBerry 8830 World Edition.
If anyone finds the perfect phone please let me know. Until then I will keep my iPhone.
If anyone finds the perfect phone please let me know. Until then I will keep my iPhone.
RenoJohn
Well-known member
I think it really depends on what you want to use the phone for.
No doubt the iToy is kinda groovy, but for me it can't hold a straw to what I get done with my BB 8820, which is *my* BB of choice due to it's no-nonsense functionality.
Yes, I have it set up on a corporate exchange server and that really does make all the difference. Sure, I don't have the "pull-the-finger" fart game that the iToy users are so fond of, but I've been able to cope with that setback thanks to an additional trip to the psychologist.
I use it for business and can smack-down any iToy user when it comes to email and outlook calendar functionality. (no screen keyboard for me) I also use the PIN 2 PIN functionality to correspond with other BB users and that is groovy. An 8gig memory card (I'm told) holds a lot of ****.
I also can't complain at it's overall performance and durability, I use it primarily as work tool, but I also use it a lot to blog my moto-bike rides -including this one
(this rally)
where it flew off my bike after a performance award --baked in the summer nevada desert for a couple days. ---when I went back to the scene of the crime, the unit worked perfect, still had strong battery and didn't miss a lick. Although it was sticky from some animal pissing all over it. If you think an iToy would have functioned with good battery after laying in the Nevada elements for a few days ---uhhhh, think again.
sent from my BB8820 ...renojohn
No doubt the iToy is kinda groovy, but for me it can't hold a straw to what I get done with my BB 8820, which is *my* BB of choice due to it's no-nonsense functionality.
Yes, I have it set up on a corporate exchange server and that really does make all the difference. Sure, I don't have the "pull-the-finger" fart game that the iToy users are so fond of, but I've been able to cope with that setback thanks to an additional trip to the psychologist.
I use it for business and can smack-down any iToy user when it comes to email and outlook calendar functionality. (no screen keyboard for me) I also use the PIN 2 PIN functionality to correspond with other BB users and that is groovy. An 8gig memory card (I'm told) holds a lot of ****.
I also can't complain at it's overall performance and durability, I use it primarily as work tool, but I also use it a lot to blog my moto-bike rides -including this one
(this rally)
where it flew off my bike after a performance award --baked in the summer nevada desert for a couple days. ---when I went back to the scene of the crime, the unit worked perfect, still had strong battery and didn't miss a lick. Although it was sticky from some animal pissing all over it. If you think an iToy would have functioned with good battery after laying in the Nevada elements for a few days ---uhhhh, think again.
sent from my BB8820 ...renojohn
Jeff Q
Well-known member
Iphone is the best Ive ever owned period. Had 2g, upgraded to 3g, had my wife on 2g for a week and she was wanting a 3g. She loves it too. However Itunes is the devil....
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johnny80s
Turtle Gears
I don't understand why the you bash the email capability. I am on on an exchange server for work and the iPhone can whip out email very fast. Why do you think the BB is faster for email RJ?
Jeff Q
Well-known member
Email on Iphone is awesome, only wish I could change the fetch times down lower than 15 minutes...
Ok, tried not to jump in here just because I like to separate work (cell phones) and pleasure (motorcycles), but having used multiple blackberries 8800, 8700, Bold, Pearl, Storm for an extended period of time (I work in wireless QoS testing for all the major US carriers and many international carriers), I honestly prefer my current iPhone, and I haven't upgraded to the 3GS yet (Running the 16GB 3G model).
Comparison:
E-mail - Contrary to some of the misinformation above, the iPhone now has "push" e-mail and integrates with corporate exchange servers. That means you can synch up your contacts, search the corporate address book, update calendars, create meeting invites, etc. I also prefer the touch keyboard to that of the Storm (I know you didn't ask about the Storm but it's a valid comparison). Where the iPhone trumps the blackberry is if you want to open an attachment (say an excel file) and actually read over the data. MUCH more usable. Same goes for tables or graphics in an e-mail due to the ability to quickly zoom in on selective portions of the e-mail and read on the larger screen.
Web - iPhone wins this one hands down. AT&T, also, wins here. While all carriers are fond of advertising their "3G" capability, the technology behind the 3G tech is different. Verizon and Sprint use 1xEVDO rev A as their top performing technology while AT&T uses HSDPA. HSDPA is much faster. Still slower than HSDPA 7.2 which is being rolled out in Europe, but hey, the US has what it has.
Phone Capabilities - Blackberry. As a simple phone, I always found that, side by side, the Blackberry had the better reception.
Misc - The Blackberry has the cool PIN feature for sending text messages to other Blackberry users over the data network. This saves on a text messaging plan. Meanwhile the iPhone has the iPod capability, has a host of free applications (I actually did use that level application you see in the commercials to hang a tool rack last weekend), and is actually thinner (which I care about as I carry mine in my pocket and not on my belt like the IT team). Oh, and both have GPS enabled by default, although I like the iPhone mapping application better for its ability to find more items located around my current location (i.e. search "Pizza Hut" and it comes up with address, phone, web site of nearest pizza hut). Of course that localized search is available on the Bold with Google as well. The one MAJOR drawback to the iPhone is the lack of battery life if you are aggressively using the web browser on the 3G network.
Hopefully that isn't information overload, but I've been working in the cellular test and measurement industry for five years and I get my hands on most of the new phones. Blackberry is solid as a rock and has been my travel companion on many a motorcycle trip, but the iPhone is the current champ IMO.
Comparison:
E-mail - Contrary to some of the misinformation above, the iPhone now has "push" e-mail and integrates with corporate exchange servers. That means you can synch up your contacts, search the corporate address book, update calendars, create meeting invites, etc. I also prefer the touch keyboard to that of the Storm (I know you didn't ask about the Storm but it's a valid comparison). Where the iPhone trumps the blackberry is if you want to open an attachment (say an excel file) and actually read over the data. MUCH more usable. Same goes for tables or graphics in an e-mail due to the ability to quickly zoom in on selective portions of the e-mail and read on the larger screen.
Web - iPhone wins this one hands down. AT&T, also, wins here. While all carriers are fond of advertising their "3G" capability, the technology behind the 3G tech is different. Verizon and Sprint use 1xEVDO rev A as their top performing technology while AT&T uses HSDPA. HSDPA is much faster. Still slower than HSDPA 7.2 which is being rolled out in Europe, but hey, the US has what it has.
Phone Capabilities - Blackberry. As a simple phone, I always found that, side by side, the Blackberry had the better reception.
Misc - The Blackberry has the cool PIN feature for sending text messages to other Blackberry users over the data network. This saves on a text messaging plan. Meanwhile the iPhone has the iPod capability, has a host of free applications (I actually did use that level application you see in the commercials to hang a tool rack last weekend), and is actually thinner (which I care about as I carry mine in my pocket and not on my belt like the IT team). Oh, and both have GPS enabled by default, although I like the iPhone mapping application better for its ability to find more items located around my current location (i.e. search "Pizza Hut" and it comes up with address, phone, web site of nearest pizza hut). Of course that localized search is available on the Bold with Google as well. The one MAJOR drawback to the iPhone is the lack of battery life if you are aggressively using the web browser on the 3G network.
Hopefully that isn't information overload, but I've been working in the cellular test and measurement industry for five years and I get my hands on most of the new phones. Blackberry is solid as a rock and has been my travel companion on many a motorcycle trip, but the iPhone is the current champ IMO.
johnny80s
Turtle Gears
mdisher
formerly Renegade, get used to it.
email on BB vs iphone (why BB does email better)
- Keyboard hands down. While the iPhone keyboard is OK, and actually pretty good once you learn to just use it and trust it, it's still not as fast as being able to touch type with actual keys. It's word suggest is also somewhat funky. Rather than having to select it's suggestion, it selects it by default. If you're pounding out a paragraph, you'll often go back and find out it made some rather funky changes on your behalf. At least it does for me.
- BB's Unified Inbox rules.
-- Apple just licensed activeSync which means it's email sucks like any other WinMobile device. While you can sync multiple folders in your inbox, the messages stay there.
-- in BB land, the unified in box all your **** (when unread) is in one place, while not preferred on the desktop (where I have multiple filters and what not sorting my email) It's all good/fast/easy to access on the BB which is what you need for a portable device.
Example:
I have an email structure something like this...
Inbox
- Vendors
-- Dell
-- CDW, etc
- RT Trouble tickets
-- Network Support Queue
-- App Support Queue
with a Blackberry if someone opens a 'network' ticket, Exchange puts that in the Inbox->RT-Trouble Tickets->Network Support Queue folder.
On the desktop, I see it cause it's an unread message (my default view)
On the Blackberry, that message is in my (unified inbox) unread until I read it.
On the iPhone, I have to navigate to this folder to get to it.
- BES (Blackberry Enterprise Server)
-- Is attached to Exchange like an alien face hugger. It's extremely reliable. I ALWAYS get messages.
- iPhone with Active Sync/Exchange push
-- works *most* of the time, but when coverage is spotty, or I'm in and out of zones, I'll often open up 'Mail' and find that it hasn't been sync'd for hours. Hit the refresh button and *blam* a bunch of messages. (this may be more ATT's fault than iPhone).
- email attachments.
-- The iPhone does this well, and it is much easier to read attachments, but I've never had an issue with BB OS 4.5.x in reading any word/excel/ppt/PDF file.
Don't get me wrong I do like my iPhone, I like it's capabilities, and have a slew of apps/games/TV shows and music on it. It is a GREAT device. Hands down it does a lot of other things better, like surfing the web.
But for true corporate email when getting/responding and timeliness is Critical, you cannot beat the Crackberry.
If your needs aren't critical, go for it.
Battery life does blow though. I cannot get more than say 24 hours on a charge if all I do is email and light surfing. I can go DAYS on my 8830.
RenoJohn
Well-known member
Just like the 04 FJR is the fastest FJR, not sure I can tell you why ....also not sure I can tell you why the BB is faster on email. (but my opinion is that the BB keyboard is no contest to a touch screen)But, if you feel your FJR or your iToy are faster than my '04 or my BB ...you're welcome to think that. ++But if you want to prove it, please bring your pink-slip to both.++
..this post sent from my BB8820 while doing 154mph on my 04FJR
