Cornering Speeds

[GunMD]

And where's GunMD when we need him?

Just enjoying the show...

Oh damn..I ran off Gunny...

Not hardly. I just pick my moments.

As for the OP's question. Just haul ass. Darwin's ideas indicate it'll just work itself out...

 

[Bustanut joker]

Now that's a jokesters answer there! :lol: I'd add an azzhat response but Iggy and klownboi have already done it for me.. :lol: :lol:

:jester:

 

[rushes]

And where's GunMD when we need him?

Just enjoying the show...

Oh damn..I ran off Gunny...

Not hardly. I just pick my moments.

As for the OP's question. Just haul ass. Darwin's ideas indicate it'll just work itself out...

He lives.....

 

[sporto]

Well, let’s be honest here. This isn’t an issue determined by the bike. It’s determined by the nerve and experience of the rider, and perhaps the wear on the tires.
If I’m feeling confident, I’m more apt to take a turn that I’m familiar with more aggressively than I would on a road that I have not been on.

I don’t think the majority of folks on here are Island of TT racers and have to go to work and earn money for their family’s the following Monday.

If you’re asking us to find out what nerve you should take in turns, I’m going to stick with my original post and say that when your azz tells you not to, don’t. I don’t think there is a “correct” or a “constant” answer here. Every situation determines the use of common sense and sometimes a bit of humble pie. It only takes one pebble or slip to ruin your life.

Going by your answers, I would have to say B, but only on roads I know, when I’m feeling good about it. Most of the time, I don't look at the "speed sign". I look at the turn, and "My Speed", and determine what is good for me. I don't really give a ratz azz what anyone else is doing, and if I fall behind, boo hoo...."Trust me, i'll catch up with everything attached".

A. goodness no, never that fast

B. sometimes, when I'm feeling it

C. almost always, it is my goal

D. at least double the speed, for I am Ricky Racer and proud holder of several crash club awards

So far only one person actually took the time to read my question, fully understood it and provided a valid response. I didn't think it was that difficult, guess I should have made it simple and made it a poll.

You would think being a site Admin would require basic English comprehension skillz.

 

[rushes]

It's gotta be Friday somewheres.....

 

[Bustanut joker]

You would think being a site Admin would require basic English comprehension skillz.

An' ya just might think bein' a guest here A fella just might not start shit with the folks in charge..

Jus sayin'

It's just the way of the joint sporto . You've been here long enough to realize that...

:jester:

 

[wheatonFJR]

You would think a person with sporto'z self proclaimed mad skillz wouldn't be askin' for such dumbazz advice.

I mean...what was the whole frickin point? You gonna change your behaviour that you have learned on the road and yer book learnin' based on a stupid poll answered by jackasses you don't know?? I mean c'mon man...<shakes head at the stupidity and walks away...>

 

[XXX]

I hardly ever look at the speedo.

 

[RadioHowie]

I hardly ever look at the speedo.

Made ya look....made ya look!!!

 

[BackintheSaddle]

I hardly ever look at the speedo.

Made ya look....made ya look!!!

Dammit! I just verped up ice cream.....

 

[boomerang]

On dry clean roads, during the daytime, with little traffic and where you can see all the way thru the corner, is exiting the apex at double the posted speed limit something you do?
A. goodness no, never that fast

B. sometimes, when I'm feeling it

C. almost always, it is my goal

D. at least double the speed, for I am Ricky Racer and proud holder of several crash club awards

E. I really very rarely look at the speed-o before, during or,after exiting a turn. I pretty much fly by the seat of my pants.

F. Speed, also greatly depends on the curve more then the speed limit sign. We have some curves around here that are posted 15mph. but,you can take them comfortably at 45mph and stay in your lane. Actually' I love these curves!

G. CURVE?????????? OH SHhhiiiiiiiittt !!!

 

[FJRBluesman]

I've never had my FeeJ out of 1st gear. :blink:

DO NOT TRY THIS!!! ONLY FOR UBEREXPERIENCED FJR RIDERS!!

I actually go to red line in top gear, never look at speed-O, and use the guard rail for what it's named after, a guard to keep you upright. I just go into the guardrail and hug it thru the turn like I'm a roller coaster ride. It's great fun and makes my knee pucks look like I've been dragging my knees thru the corners.

 

[gregory]

On dry clean roads, during the daytime, with little traffic and where you can see all the way thru the corner, is exiting the apex at double the posted speed limit something you do?
A. goodness no, never that fast

B. sometimes, when I'm feeling it

C. almost always, it is my goal

D. at least double the speed, for I am Ricky Racer and proud holder of several crash club awards

I held off as long as I could! It's almost freakin FRIDAY

!/2 second before THIS HAPPENS!

 

[sporto]

You would think being a site Admin would require basic English comprehension skillz.

An' ya just might think bein' a guest here A fella just might not start shit with the folks in charge..

Jus sayin'

It's just the way of the joint sporto . You've been here long enough to realize that...

:jester:

Yes, I realize it is the way of this site and we is all just having some fun but it WAS only Thursday when I made this post!

Wheaton,

I think we met at CFO 2009, I wasn't a dick then, what has happened to me?

 

[gregory]

You would think being a site Admin would require basic English comprehension skillz.

An' ya just might think bein' a guest here A fella just might not start shit with the folks in charge..

Jus sayin'

It's just the way of the joint sporto . You've been here long enough to realize that...

:jester:

Yes, I realize it is the way of this site and we is all just having some fun but it WAS only Thursday when I made this post!

Wheaton,

I think we met at CFO 2009, you weren't a dick then, what has happened to you?

Wait, WHAT? Wheaton's a dick? WHO KNEW????????????

 

[sporto]

Wait, WHAT? Wheaton's a dick? WHO KNEW????????????

Hey Slider,

Did you say something?

 

[Bounce]

You would think being a site Admin would require basic English comprehension skillz.

not any more so than registering to be a participating member makes someone tactful and interesting.

 

[sergeantnic]

2. You will run out of talent and ability way before your bike runs out of it's ability to make the curve. When in doubt, TURN THE BIKE MORE.

I agree with this to a point, but the FJR runs out of ground clearance much sooner than expected. It certianly can not acheive the lean angle of any modern sport bike.

And what exactly are you dragging that you are worried about? Pegs? Those are meant to be ground down.

 

[James Burleigh]

I think my only contribution to this thread is that the posted speed limit is another indicator as to whether I am approaching a decreasing-radius turn--the lower the speed relative to the posted straightaway speed gives useful information. Won't nuttin' bite you as quick as a DC corner.

But generally I'm through trying to be "fast" (whatever that means) on rural roads. There are way too many variables out of my control, and so I would be at high risk of violating my riding Prime Directive: Pull into my driveway after the ride and say, "That was a good ride." (Note nothing in the Prime Directive about pulling into the driveway as a passenger in my wife's car sporting multiple bandages and wondering where they towed my bike.)

Instead, when riding twisties, I focus on technique and rhythm, working with apexes, picking out my turn-in point, flicking the bike, looking through the turn, rolling on the accelerator, linking corners, etc.

 

[sergeantnic]

2. You will run out of talent and ability way before your bike runs out of it's ability to make the curve. When in doubt, TURN THE BIKE MORE.

I agree with this to a point, but the FJR runs out of ground clearance much sooner than expected. It certianly can not acheive the lean angle of any modern sport bike.

I would tend to agree with ol' Sarge. I would suspect that a Goldwing has less ground clearance than an FJR. If Yellow Wolf could pass you at will (when he had his Wing) - which he could - I'm sure that the FJR is not the limiting factor, but the guy staring back at you in the mirror. Turn more...use better technique...and slow in - fast out.

Or not.

I agree that for most of the time if you find yourself going in too hot, you continue to look through the corner and lean more. But continuing to lean the bike and looking through the corner can only take you "so far". Bad body positioning and poor throttle control will nip you in the butt quick.

I've seen Yellow Wolf's video and they are outstanding...he is one heck of a rider. I will attribute some of his success to knowing the dragon's every turn and having homefield advantag. I'm not saying that he couldn't keep up with me on the dragon, I'm sure he could one handed, but he might have a SLIGHTLY tougher time doing so if the tables were turned and I was on roads that I'm familiar with.

Look guys I'm not trying to argue here..I've ridden sport bikes for the last 7 years, done numerous track days running advanced group in every one, I completely undestand that the rider makes difference. At the level that we ride the street, leaning more and looking through the turn will solve 99% of peopples problems. But you can only lean the bike so far.

Couldn't agree more. Leanin over more won't solve all of the problems but it will solve most. And rider position is probably the other 1% of failures. Every well versed rider knows or should know that if you aint gettin your butt out of the saddle and trying to kiss your mirror you are going to have to lean your bike over farther than the guy who is leaning off the bike a bit. There are lots of instances where that's the case. 2 guys riding the same bike into the same corner. If guy #1 is leaning off a bit, kissing his mirror, pointing his elbow to the ground and looking through the curve his bike will be less leaned over at the same speed than the guy with his ass planted firmly in his seat and riding with bad body position.