D/S Tires

[yamafitter]

Fat guys prolly shouldn't go much below 18. It plays Hell with the sidewalls and rims.

Who you calling FAT? Oh ok I guess I fit that bill. My kids rub my belly and ask how the baby is doing. I hate kids!

 

The NH dirt club checks your tires and won't let you ride under 15.

 

I do 22 lbs just so I can go pavement/dirt on the same ride. The dirt in this area does not last very long and your back on black top.

What kind of Tire Nazis you got in that club. I thought Hew Hampshire was supposed to be the "Live Free or Die" State. Now you tell me you got some clown trying to tell you you can't ride because your tire pressure is below 15 psi but it's OK to ride around without a helmet.

This is insane. Next time they come around you with a tire gauge pull out your Colt and put a couple of caps in their ass.

On a different note when I recommend 10 psi for sand to 14 psi for rock I should make it clear that this is for an Enduro / Motocross bike that weighs under 300 lbs. It should be obvious that something as piggy as a Beemer or a 650 KLR will need more air to keep the rim off the ground. If you are going to be on pavement for long periods of time a higher pressure would also be recommended to keep the tire from overheating. I used to use Tire Balls but made the mistake of riding an organized trail ride that had long sections of high speed cottage roads (gravel) and some pavement. After about 200 km of this kind of riding the tire got too hot and a number of the Tire Balls exploded and I got stranded. Fortunately I had my GPS and had cellphone coverage and was able to get a hold of the organizers and got rescued since the bike was not going anywhere. I now have two sets of rims for my WR450F. One set is for off-roading and I normally have a set of Michelin S12's running a Tubeliss system set to 10 psi. My other set of rims are set up with Dunlop D606's at 14 psi.

 

[beemerdons]

Fat guys prolly shouldn't go much below 18. It plays Hell with the sidewalls and rims.

Who you calling FAT? Oh ok I guess I fit that bill. My kids rub my belly and ask how the baby is doing. I hate kids!

 

The NH dirt club checks your tires and won't let you ride under 15.

 

I do 22 lbs just so I can go pavement/dirt on the same ride. The dirt in this area does not last very long and your back on black top.

What kind of Tire Nazis you got in that club. I thought Hew Hampshire was supposed to be the "Live Free or Die" State. Now you tell me you got some clown trying to tell you you can't ride because your tire pressure is below 15 psi but it's OK to ride around without a helmet.

This is insane. Next time they come around you with a tire gauge pull out your Colt and put a couple of caps in their ass.

Sweet Jeez Marie, these Canucks give the Stanley Cup away to the Boston Bruins and they are still whiny/pissy/menopausal/witchy/moany because of it months later! I take it that it must be snowing up there!

 

[yamafitter]

The WR has the D606's on it now, which I feel is probably a good choice, but I'll be scrounging around for the best rubber setup going forward.

The D606's are the best you are going to do if you need DOT Knobbies and still want decent performance in the dirt. If you don't need DOT tires then something like a Dunlop 756 works well in East Coast conditions. The Michelin M12 is also a good tire in hard surface conditions. Don't cheap out on Kendas. They will last a long time but the compound is so bloody hard they won't grip to anything.

I don't give away any of my vast experience in these matters for free. I expect for you to pick up my bar tab at NERDS in exchange for these nuggets of knowledge. :drinks:

 

[yamafitter]

Sweet Jeez Marie, these Canucks give the Stanley Cup away to the Boston Bruins and they are still whiny/pissy/menopausal/witchy/moany because of it months later! I take it that it must be snowing up there!

I'm pissed because it is NOT snowing. The skiis are all waxed up and the grass is showing on the ski hills. +6oC Today and the stupid bastards from City Works are dumping salt on the roads. If it was not for the salt I at least could have taken the bike out for a ride. :angry2:

 

[beemerdons]

Sweet Jeez Marie, these Canucks give the Stanley Cup away to the Boston Bruins and they are still whiny/pissy/menopausal/witchy/moany because of it months later! I take it that it must be snowing up there!

I'm pissed because it is NOT snowing. The skiis are all waxed up and the grass is showing on the ski hills. +6oC Today and the stupid bastards from City Works are dumping salt on the roads. If it was not for the salt I at least could have taken the bike out for a ride. :angry2:

Well here you go Bill, this picture of Seth and Papa out riding on Sunday should make you feel a whole lot better; 80F! There now yamafitter, feeling better now are we! jes' sayin' and nuff' said!

https://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/foiler69/****%20it%20all%20today%20motherfucker/036.jpg

 

[Mr Bill]

On a different note when I recommend 10 psi for sand to 14 psi for rock I should make it clear that this is for an Enduro / Motocross bike that weighs under 300 lbs. It should be obvious that something as piggy as a Beemer or a 650 KLR will need more air to keep the rim off the ground. If you are going to be on pavement for long periods of time a higher pressure would also be recommended to keep the tire from overheating. I used to use Tire Balls but made the mistake of riding an organized trail ride that had long sections of high speed cottage roads (gravel) and some pavement. After about 200 km of this kind of riding the tire got too hot and a number of the Tire Balls exploded and I got stranded. Fortunately I had my GPS and had cellphone coverage and was able to get a hold of the organizers and got rescued since the bike was not going anywhere. I now have two sets of rims for my WR450F. One set is for off-roading and I normally have a set of Michelin S12's running a Tubeliss system set to 10 psi. My other set of rims are set up with Dunlop D606's at 14 psi.

 

I carry an air pump with me, I guess I just plain lazy.

 

I lightened up the 690r a little so its around 280lbs. I'll try the lower pressure on my ride South. From here in Mass to Pa there is a route that goes through NJ and that state is all sand. I'll see if I can keep a straight line there so it won't look like I'm a drunk rider.

 

[Mr Bill]

Well... This weekend I'll be trading my cherry '98 VFR for a WR250X (that has been converted into an R). I know, I am most likely totally insane for doing it, but I have a serious demented lust for dirt. The WR has the D606's on it now, which I feel is probably a good choice, but I'll be scrounging around for the best rubber setup going forward.

Also FWIW, I'd love to buy myself some TKC80's for my Man'strom, but in the size needed they are obscenely priced, for some reason.

Maybe they are the same size as used on some of those propeller head bikes? :huh:

That 250 should be a blast! It was a tough choice between that bike and the 690r.

 

[UberKul]

I have been running Dunlop 606s on my old KLR for last number of years really like these tires for both woods riding and street. I have been looking at the Mefo Stone Masters but I have found little to no feedback on them. Does anyone her have experience with these tires, they look awesome.

Canadian FJR

Poor guy, two pages to wade through for an answer of no, no one has tried them.

A little info on ADV.

and more

KLR650.net

an actual review.

If you get them let us know what you think of 'em.

What are the 606's not doing for you?

 

[beemerdons]

I have been running Dunlop 606s on my old KLR for last number of years really like these tires for both woods riding and street. I have been looking at the Mefo Stone Masters but I have found little to no feedback on them. Does anyone her have experience with these tires, they look awesome.

Canadian FJR

Poor guy, two pages to wade through for an answer of no, no one has tried them.

A little info on ADV.

and more

KLR650.net

an actual review.

If you get them let us know what you think of 'em.

What are the 606's not doing for you?

+1, Gunny! Scott, why have the 606"s fallen out of favor with you? Inquiring Minds Want to Know!

 

[HotRodZilla]

Uh...I think I answered his question twice. I even posted links and pictures. I never do that unless its to further prove that Don is a *******...

 

[dcarver]

Well... This weekend I'll be trading my cherry '98 VFR for a WR250X (that has been converted into an R). I know, I am most likely totally insane for doing it, but I have a serious demented lust for dirt. The WR has the D606's on it now, which I feel is probably a good choice, but I'll be scrounging around for the best rubber setup going forward.

Also FWIW, I'd love to buy myself some TKC80's for my Man'strom, but in the size needed they are obscenely priced, for some reason.

Maybe they are the same size as used on some of those propeller head bikes? :huh:

Say good-bye with a smile and enjoy the WR Fred..

Just trust me on this one?

Post up later if you are not happy?

 

[yamafitter]

One thing I forgot to mention is to change your tubes over to a good quality heavy duty tube. Also you should replace the OEM rubber band that protects the tube from the spoke nipples. Old timers such as myself tend to use the handyman's secret weapon, duct tape (known in NASCAR circles as 200 mph tape). There are new products available that offer even better spoke protection. Just Google motorcycle rim tape. I eould have supplied a link but I am posting this from my iPhone.

 

[Canadian FJR]

Any specific comments on the Mefo Stone Masters. All this other chit chat is nice and it's great that everyone is playing so nicely but my post is getting a little overshadowed.

Canadian FJR

 

[beemerdons]

Any specific comments on the Mefo Stone Masters. All this other chit chat is nice and it's great that everyone is playing so nicely but my post is getting a little overshadowed.

Canadian FJR

https://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/4789/766/ At $176 for a rear tire, only you muy Rico (fecking Rich!) Canadians can afford them! We poor old Zonie Desert Rats are staying with 606's at half the price!

 

[phroenips]

When I had my WR250R, I really really really liked the Pirelli MT43 (DOT trials type tire). Super quiet on the road, and I had a really hard time getting it to break loose on the dirt. Not a lot of experience in the sand, we don't have too much of that in Colorado. Also can't comment on the longevity as it came on the bike when I bought it, but when it wore out and I put a D606, I wished I had the MT43 back. People seem to either love or hate the trials tires, so take it for what it's worth (approximately nothing )

 

[Canadian FJR]

"Scott, why have the 606"s fallen out of favor with you? Inquiring Minds Want to Know! "

No complaints with the 606's, they are a great tire for the ridding that I do. I just thought the Mefo looked like a nice aggressive tire and might give them a try. The only downside that I can see is the initial cost but depending on how long they last, they might be a better deal than the 606's.

BTW, still looking for a good front rim (complete) for the KLR.

Canadian FJR

 

[HotRodZilla]

BTW, still looking for a good front rim (complete) for the KLR.

Canadian FJR

Have you looked on eBay? Pretty sure you could build a KLR part by part from that place. When I had my KLR, I spent more time there than I'd like to admit.

 

[Canadian FJR]

"Pretty sure you could build a KLR part by part from that place." :lol:

Keeping an eye there also, just may have found a set.

Canadian FJR

 

[beemerdons]

"Pretty sure you could build a KLR part by part from that place." :lol:

Keeping an eye there also, just may have found a set.

Canadian FJR

https://www.klr650.net/forums/showthread.php?t=99084 Scott, since the weather is still too inclement to ride here in Arizona, it hasn't gotten above 70F yet, I have been looking for a front rim for your KLR. I was surprised to find out how hard it is to get just a front rim! No one wants to sell just the front, they only want to sell both rims as a set. There are a ton of just rear KLR rims for sale though, the front KLR rims must really take a huge beating!

 

[CAJW]

Well... This weekend I'll be trading my cherry '98 VFR for a WR250X (that has been converted into an R).

Fred,

A little part of me just died. However, I do understand the call of the soil. Enjoy your new steed as there's nothing better than riding a DS on a back country road, finding a unpaved goat trail that heads out through the trees and just taking it to see how far you can get! :yahoo: