David E. Davis takes a cheap shot at motorcyclists

[jestal]

If you want to get wound up at David E. Davis (of Automobile "fame") check out his comments regarding Ben Roethlisberger's motorcycle crash at his new web magazine "WindingRoad"

https://news.windingroad.com/?p=187

While we joke among ourselves about the ingnorance of riding without a helment I find David E Davis's comments rather hard to take. Not the first time I've disagree'd with this self professed "expert"'s opinion. He is a twit.

 

[Scab]

Who is this dweeb and why does he think he knows anything?

 

[GunMD]

Who is this dweeb and why does he think he knows anything?

I was wondering that myself. I've never heard of this *******. By his math, it's OK to let him die by the side of the road if he crashes his convertible car...and how about if he dies in a commercial airline accident? That's a choice he made, right? Flying 30K above the Earth (knowing that gravity will always win) isn't very smart, now is it?

 

[jestal]

Who is this dweeb and why does he think he knows anything?

He is a magazine editor that left Car and Driver years ago and started Automobile magazine. He is a legend in his own mind..... And a dweeb.

 

[Scab]

He within drivin' distance? A dogpile would be in order as per forum guidlines.

 

[twowheelnut]

David E. Is a past Editor in Chief of Car and Driver, publisher of Automobile and now this webzine.

Usually, David E. is a bit more contained in his opines and a lot more humored. This must have hit his 'pissed off' cord. Except for his comment about organ donor bikes, I kinda gotta agree with him. Don't wear your gear, lie there and rot. It's this **** that's pushing things like banning lane sharing because a certain element of our community is out there doing 'stuntz', riding w/o gear and riding machines that they have no business to be riding. They do, indeed, drain money from my pocket eventually and infringe upon my rights to ride. **** 'em. :grrr:

 

[Scab]

However, (no wait, that's political)

But, (no wait, that's political)

On the other hand, (no wait, that's political)

And, (no wait, that's political)

IF, (no wait, that's political too)

Piss on it. I have nothing to say.

 

[twowheelnut]

However, (no wait, that's political)
But, (no wait, that's political)

On the other hand, (no wait, that's political)

And, (no wait, that's political)

IF, (no wait, that's political too)

Piss on it. I have nothing to say.

Well said.

 

[Ignacio]

However, (no wait, that's political)
But, (no wait, that's political)

On the other hand, (no wait, that's political)

And, (no wait, that's political)

IF, (no wait, that's political too)

Piss on it. I have nothing to say.

Isn't it an increasingly fine line between genuine discussion and dialogue of motorcycle related issues that venture into the political discussion compared to one-sided rants about parties, conspiracies, singling out ng California a snide K spelling, and monlogue flame rants that sound susiciously similar to the Unabomber Manifesto?

Thanks for keeping it on the FJR specific side of the meter.

BTW, the dude has already gotten two comments from, I presume, members here. At least one of them is for sure since I think it was me babbling about snow shovels. Politics are OK on his site though, yea!

 

[twowheelnut]

... snide K spelling, and monlogue flame rants that sound susiciously ...

Whachoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?

 

[vectervp1]

Ahh yes, the ramblings of another man who has no idea of what he's talking about.

 

[Groo]

Opinions are like ********.... yadda, yadda, yadda...

 

[Woodstock]

Doctors were hard-pressed to determine whether or not he suffered brain damage, inasmuch as his brain obviously wasn’t working worth a damn when he climbed onto his crotch-rocket without a helmet.

Actually, I thought that line was pretty funny. B)

 

[flying_monkey_girl]

Doctors were hard-pressed to determine whether or not he suffered brain damage, inasmuch as his brain obviously wasn’t working worth a damn when he climbed onto his crotch-rocket without a helmet.

Actually, I thought that line was pretty funny. B)

or true............?

 

[jestal]

I still always wear a helmet and the other gear but I just cannot tolerate David E Davis's tortured logic that I should wear a helment so that if he runs my down in his SUV I won't get hurt.... If he believes that then he should wear a helment in his sporty car so that if I run a stop sign and broadside him HE won't get hurt. He is an elitist *****.

 

[twowheelnut]

I still always wear a helmet and the other gear but I just cannot tolerate David E Davis's tortured logic that I should wear a helment so that if he runs my down in his SUV I won't get hurt.... If he believes that then he should wear a helment in his sporty car so that if I run a stop sign and broadside him HE won't get hurt. He is an elitist *****.

Jestal, I'm sorry, but he didn't say anything like that that. He merely said that if we choose to ride helmetless, then tough ******* when we crash. Don't expect society to clean up our spilled guts. I take his comments as; be responsible for your own actions, don't burden others. Are you perhaps linking these comments with previous ones not presented in the link?

I do, however, agree with you on his elitist status - most members of the 'Fourth Estate' fill that moniker quite well.

 

[Thug]

Apart for the Organ Donor Title and the "leave them on the side of the road" comments I recon he is bang on...Fools like that do cost you and me **** loads of medical capital spent on these ******s who think only about them selves.

Fine ride without a helmet you selfish **** (Sic) whether your fault or not you will increase the medical cost in repairing you (if they can) without a helmet exponentially, and thems the facts....not to mention you have the potential to leave behind you family or friends or have them care for you for the rest of your vegetative life...Yeah but don't let that bother you your right to wear or not wear a helmet is far more important!

Yes it ******* annoys the **** out of me.

Cheers

ahh that feels better...

 

[jestal]

I still always wear a helmet and the other gear but I just cannot tolerate David E Davis's tortured logic that I should wear a helment so that if he runs my down in his SUV I won't get hurt.... If he believes that then he should wear a helment in his sporty car so that if I run a stop sign and broadside him HE won't get hurt. He is an elitist *****.

Jestal, I'm sorry, but he didn't say anything like that that. He merely said that if we choose to ride helmetless, then tough ******* when we crash. Don't expect society to clean up our spilled guts. I take his comments as; be responsible for your own actions, don't burden others. Are you perhaps linking these comments with previous ones not presented in the link?

I do, however, agree with you on his elitist status - most members of the 'Fourth Estate' fill that moniker quite well.

It is just his basic premis that no matter what happened or who caused the wreck the motorcyclist is automatically "at fault" and should be left to die because they weren't wearing a helmet. That is just wrong.

It just rubs me the wrong way when there is a bike accident and no one seems to bother with the facts of "what happened". They just blame the motorcyclist for not wearing a helmet and talk about how stupid they were. They might be stupid but maybe more car drivers would be a little more carefull if they knew they were going to be held responsible for their actions in maiming or killing someone. It also pisses me off when a journalist (especially an elitist ***** like David E) uses their position to make statements like that when the guy has crashed cars and almost killed his own self several times...yet the motorcyclist is "stupid".

You guys seem to think the only reason the ambulence rolls is because people weren't wearing helmets. Other injuries happen also and necessitate emergency treatment.

Non-helmet users being a dreg on society and "costing all of us money". CUT ME A BREAK. Smokers cost society FAR more with lung cancer than helmetless riders yet I don't hear any hue and cry to leave them choking in the ditch. David E writes of his love for cigars so I think we should leave him gasping for air when his lungs clog up because he is obviously engaging in a risky activity. Spare me the crap about motorcyclists and helmetless riders costing anything. Hang glider pilots, skateboarders, bicycle riders, everyone that participates in any sort of sport cause high medical costs. I bet the helmet-less riders are WAY down on the list of causing cost to society.

 

[Scab]

Geez. Of all the stupid **** people do that puts a financial burden on society, I seriously doubt that not wearing a helmet constitutes a very large percentage of total dollars blown up a wild boars ***.

Do I think not wearing a helmet wise? No. Is the subject worthy of soap-boxing? Ah, no.

All this focus on his lack of wearing a helmet is nothing more than "shoulda, woulda, coulda" rhetoric.

The real issue in this case, IMO, is just how much personal behavior professional sports teams wish to control for the sake of their business, and just how much personal freedoms atheletes are willing to relinquish for a dollar.

This David dude is just a psuedo-intellectual talking horse-****.

David E writes of his love for cigars so I think we should leave him gasping for air when his lungs clog up because he is obviously engaging in a risky activity.

+1, as per his own logic.