Deer warning whistle

[Bounce]

Deer whistles are a decades-old debate. Moved to NEPRT.

When deer run in front of loud vehicles, additional noise won't change that. They are prey animals and their flight instinct is to dash off in random, unexpected directions. That may just as easily be INTO you as away from you. Hunters learn this. City folk not so much.

 

[Redfish Hunter]

but really i wouldn't like to kill them..I love all the animals...

I love them too! But they will not stay still to be cooked if you don't kill them first. It is just wrong to try to eat them when they are still alive.

My favorite is fried backstrap. Or perhaps bacon wrapped backstrap cutlets with cream cheese and jalapeno peppers rolled up in the center... Yummy!

 

[beemerdons]

"My favorite is fried backstrap. Or perhaps bacon wrapped backstrap cutlets with cream cheese and jalapeno peppers rolled up in the center... Yummy!"

Off Topic: Damn Red that sounds so incredibly delicious, I'll follow HotRodZilla around to get the deer fixings! jes' sayin' and nuff said!

 

[rbentnail]

They are prey animals and their flight instinct is to dash off in random, unexpected directions.

I've not hit one yet but ^^this^^ nearly got me. 1 am, going home from work. Saw 2 in the road in plenty of time. They just hopped off to the right, no biggie. I move left and go on. Then they about-face. Sheeeeet!!!!!!!!! Went right between them, coulda slapped one on the *** and the other on the head.

Good thing there was a stop sign about 1/2 mile up the road- the seat was getting a little uncomfortable after being sucked so far up "in there".

 

[Old Guy]

When my wife and I announced we were getting married, her brother said "That's great. We'll take you to the deer camp and have a great time." I said "I don't deer hunt."

Based on their reaction, I think they must have thought I was a communist or something .... It got very quiet in the room.

Don't get me wrong; I'm definitely in favor of other people deer hunting to thin the herd. I have a close call or two every year. I'm just too lazy to do it myself. That's hard work.

 

[Bounce]

Being a hunter is easy. It's just a stroll in the woods with a bow, black powder, or modern rifle. It only becomes work once you become a finder.

 

[Mihalis fjr]

but really i wouldn't like to kill them..I love all the animals...

I love them too! But they will not stay still to be cooked if you don't kill them first. It is just wrong to try to eat them when they are still alive.

My favorite is fried backstrap. Or perhaps bacon wrapped backstrap cutlets with cream cheese and jalapeno peppers rolled up in the center... Yummy!

Nooooo...

I can't eat these cute animals..!I know,the most of you hate these animals from what i have read until now in this thread..and you are right,because they have caused many accidents in the most of you.But i still love them...Sorry.

 

[TomInPA]

State Farm publishes the Likelyhood of Collision With Deer by State each year. The 2011-2012 statistics are here. West Virginia is consistently ranked #1 on this statistic with the probability that one in 40 drivers will collide with a deer in the year. That is an amazing number of collisions, damages and potential injuries with 30,203 collisions (or maybe it's bad driving?). Pennsylvania is ranked #5 in probable collisions per driver at one in 75.6, but with 115.571 collisions with deer, is by far the most in the U.S. Are you feeling lucky? This is not the place to ride into blind curves with excessive speed.

Too many people around too many deer means we need more hunting. FWIW November 1 is a State holiday here for the opening of deer season. If you want to ride with relative impunity from Deer, Hawaii is your place. Overall I think motorcyclists beat the odds over automotive drivers, but deer are a huge problem in some places and unfortunately the odds have caught up with too many of my friends.

 

[Old Guy]

but really i wouldn't like to kill them..I love all the animals...

I love them too! But they will not stay still to be cooked if you don't kill them first. It is just wrong to try to eat them when they are still alive.

My favorite is fried backstrap. Or perhaps bacon wrapped backstrap cutlets with cream cheese and jalapeno peppers rolled up in the center... Yummy!

Nooooo...

I can't eat these cute animals..!I know,the most of you hate these animals from what i have read until now in this thread..and you are right,because they have caused many accidents in the most of you.But i still love them...Sorry.

I don't hate them and I understand where you're coming from. We have them in our yard almost daily, and I enjoy watching them. If anyone came up here planning to shoot them, I'd be out of here with a handgun faster than you could say "Bang!"

Unfortunately, if we didn't hunt them, they'd multiply to the point they'd not only be a danger on the roads, they'd starve to death for lack of forage.

Yes, Bounce. It's the finding part that's hard work. I don't hunt or find my own meat because I'm lazy. I don't grow my own potatoes for the same reason.

 

[Dutch]

I live in an area where there are many (many) deer - commuted 35 miles to work and back through the thick of it.

This was for seven years and mostly on the afternoon shift, leaving for home at midnight, I’ve had more experience dealing with “Swamp Donkey’s” than most.

Deer whistles are just as effective as St. Christopher medals – really – they both work for the same reason.

 

[Mihalis fjr]

I have never met a deer in my country in my journeys..,you can see many deers on the mountains but they are closed in protected farms and nobody can touch or kill these animals..They are protected species here.

Really,why the goverment there don't doing something to protect the people and the animals from the accidents..??I know you are a very big country there,It is very difficult i believe,but I think they can do something..!If you want to do something then you can do it..!

 

[Lauren_TK]

Really,why the goverment there don't doing something to protect the people and the animals from the accidents..??I know you are a very big country there,It is very difficult i believe,but I think they can do something..!If you want to do something then you can do it..!

There may not be any good solutions. The most difficult issue is migration patterns and acreage needed to forrage. Deer need to roam to find enough food, which means roaming across roads . . . in front of us.

I don't fear deer. I fear elk, a much bulkier beast. Don't get me started on the most horrific of all creatures, the western moose.

 

[Old Guy]

I have never met a deer in my country in my journeys..,you can see many deers on the mountains but they are closed in protected farms and nobody can touch or kill these animals..They are protected species here.Really,why the goverment there don't doing something to protect the people and the animals from the accidents..??I know you are a very big country there,It is very difficult i believe,but I think they can do something..!If you want to do something then you can do it..!

I'd agree with Lauren. I live in a mostly rural state with a lot of forest. I actually live in the forest myself in an acre or so that I've cleared for my home. There are deer all over the place out here. As I said earlier, we have them foraging in our yard most mornings.

I had a friend who died this year, but he lived in a community which protected the deer as you say, and they have become a serious problem. It's almost impossible to drive to his home without having to avoid them in the road, and accidents are very common.

You say they are protected where you live, but without natural predators, how do you control the populations?

 

[ionbeam]

...Really,why the goverment there don't doing something to protect the people and the animals from the accidents..??I know you are a very big country there,It is very difficult i believe,but I think they can do something..!If you want to do something then you can do it..!

The deer should be sending humans a thank you card. We have virtually eliminated all natural predators, our farming, landscaping and forest management have created a nearly ideal environment so it is no wonder there are so many deer. Then there are the people that feed the deer and fight any government action to thin the herds. (Unfortunately) Deer seem to be rather healthy and resistant to any wide spread diseases. I suspect that by a wide margin the greatest health risk deer have is crossing the road. What we need is to have wolf packs reintroduced...

My brother lived in a house with a nature reserve beginning at the edge of his property. The deer would come into his yard and eat all his shrubs and plants, coat his yard in byproducts to the point it was hard to let the kids play and as a bonus the deer would drop deer ticks with Lime Disease. There were so many deer that his dog got tired of chasing them off and in the end he couldn't make his dog chase them any more. Then the deer go back into the nature reserve where there is no hunting allowed.

 

[Lauren_TK]

What we need is to have wolf packs reintroduced...

In Yellowstone after the worlf packs were reintroduced, they saw an increase in the number of elk in the park.

Because the apex predator wasn't predating on everything, including smaller mamals, the smaller mamals got out of control, and ate most of the Elk's food. When the smaller mammals became prey again, their numbers fell, and the elk herds increased. However, that meant more winter food for the wolves, so the wolf packs increased in size.

In the East would we see a similar phenominon, or would we see deer reduced to a healthier population level? I don't know.

 

[Mihalis fjr]

From what i have read until now,I think that you have a real problem there with the deers and i don't know how it can resolved..

It is a little complicated i think...I really didn't know the size of the problem there....

Causes a stress in the riding every moment and this is no good...

 

[TomInPA]

What we need is to have wolf packs reintroduced...

In Yellowstone after the worlf packs were reintroduced, they saw an increase in the number of elk in the park.

Because the apex predator wasn't predating on everything, including smaller mamals, the smaller mamals got out of control, and ate most of the Elk's food. When the smaller mammals became prey again, their numbers fell, and the elk herds increased. However, that meant more winter food for the wolves, so the wolf packs increased in size.

In the East would we see a similar phenominon, or would we see deer reduced to a healthier population level? I don't know.

Interesting question. In the eastern U.S. the food supply (browse) for deer is essentially unlimited due to ample rainfall. Yellowstone is a very different ecosystem due to high altitude, seasonal dryness and very deep snow cover. I suspect eastern deer herds are limited by density / disease, hunting pressure and road kill.

 

[Bungie]

One thing I have noticed is that the vast majority of deer in the Eastern/Midwest states are just runts. I guess that is because of competition for food. The deer we get up here (no, not moosiies) are considerably bigger, more as you would expect.

Even more interesting is that up until about a decade ago it was extremely rare to see a deer around these parts. Now, those ******** are everywhere.

 

[Lauren_TK]

One thing I have noticed is that the vast majority of deer in the Eastern/Midwest states are just runts. I guess that is because of competition for food. The deer we get up here (no, not moosiies) are considerably bigger, more as you would expect.
Even more interesting is that up until about a decade ago it was extremely rare to see a deer around these parts. Now, those ******** are everywhere.

I've heard that deer here in the West are larger than deer in the Mid-west and East. I also only see a handful of deer every year.

Maybe reintroducing wolves on the other side of the Rockies would be a good thing. The down-side is that people may have to keep their pets indoors at night. 'Round these parts, cats and small dogs can become coyote chow.

 

[BigOgre]

Around the time of the early to mid 90's I happened to work in an area that was forced to deal with their deer population. What I think made it unique is that this was on a barrier island, not half a mile wide by about 30 miles long. Deer have always been there, as have some year-round human residents, but as the seasonal population grew over the last few decades, the impact on and of the deer couldn't be ignored. Whether you think they're cute or mere pests, humans have definitely upset the system. See here if you're into analysis type stuff.