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Dr. Rich

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One of my pet peeves is when someone comes on this forum and lectures me on the way I should ride. I just turned 60 years old, have ridden since the age of 16, had the last ticket in 1971 while driving a truck and so far have not been in an accident on the street with a bike. That doesn’t mean that a ticket was not deserved or that an accident at some point won’t find me. It means that my style is pretty conservative and that riding is for pleasure as opposed to trying to impress someone else.

I am very appreciative when someone comes to the forum to present an issue for discussion that is relevant. It always causes me to rethink my methodology, technique or style. What annoys me is someone who has just attended a school, read a book or watched a DVD who then comes to the forum like a reformed alcoholic and wants to pontificate about how knowledgeable they are. It gets even worse when you know that the author espouses one thing and then demonstrates a reckless approach while riding such as blasting headlong into oncoming traffic at triple digits having just crossed over a double yellow line to do it. Control of one’s bike or style has very little meaning to me when you break every law in the vehicle code while doing it!

In a former position it was my job to read many resumes and letters of introduction from highly educated, learned and successful people. It was telling to read those documents and see how many times the applicant used the word “I” in them. When reading pieces on the forum it is also very enlightening to see how many times the author uses the word “I” in the contribution … Is the piece really about the subject or is the writer saying ‘look at me’ as a form of self-aggrandizement. There is a quantum difference between intellectual intelligence and emotional intelligence. Intellectual intelligence may get you the job but emotional intelligence will allow you to keep it. Denigrating others on this forum who espouse a differing point of view, creative spelling or the usage of simple verbiage is immature and shows a definite lack of E.Q.

In the military there were junior officers whose home or office had every citation, decoration, award or medal on the wall prominently displayed above the desk or fireplace. We used to call these “love me walls”. Why did they need to display all these items???? Was it because they had really accomplished that much or was it again a way of saying ‘look at me’?

Is it wrong to suggest that the most learned folks on this forum are the ones who don’t have to call attention to themselves but instead offer guidance and assistance in a humble and constructive manner? My belief is that those who find it necessary to lecture or point the spotlight in their direction are looking for an audience to talk down to as a way of calling attention to themselves!

 
In my experience I think anyone who can't ride 1000 miles in 24 hours, such as I have done many times, is an incompetent motorcyclist.

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One of my pet peeves is when someone comes on this forum and lectures me on the way I should ride. I just turned 60 years old, have ridden since the age of 16, had the last ticket in 1971 while driving a truck and so far have not been in an accident on the street with a bike. That doesn’t mean that a ticket was not deserved or that an accident at some point won’t find me. It means that my style is pretty conservative and that riding is for pleasure as opposed to trying to impress someone else.
I am very appreciative when someone comes to the forum to present an issue for discussion that is relevant. It always causes me to rethink my methodology, technique or style.
In the spirit of the heading:

NHTSA has replaced the term 'accident' with 'crash' -- as in 'preventable' (something that was caused).

Conservative manners don't always apply in many highway traffic situations/conditions. More to the point is: successfully interacting with the traffic as it exists is what's required -- or, opting-out (taking a different route or not riding).

Too conservative, too tentative, may be too bad (ultimately)? :(

End of lecture -- beginning of discussion... :unsure:

 
In my experience I think anyone who can't ride 1000 miles in 24 hours, such as I have done many times, is an incompetent motorcyclist.
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In my experience I think anyone who can't split lanes through urban rush-hour traffic, such as I have done many times, is an incompetent motorcyclist.

:)

 
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In my experience I think anyone who can't ride 1000 miles in 24 hours, such as I have done many times, is an incompetent motorcyclist.
:)
In my experience I think anyone who can't split lanes through urban rush-hour traffic, such as I have done many times, is an incompetent motorcyclist.

:)
:lol2:

 
In my experience I think anyone who can't split lanes through urban rush-hour traffic, split a deer in two pieces without falling off, such as I have done many times, is an incompetent motorcyclist.

Dr. Rich, not sure what prompted this post, but I do agree with you. I especially like it when peeps tell me I ride too slow, ride to fast, ride too far left, ride too far right, don't wear enought ATGATT, ride when it's raining, ride when it's hot..

I simply internally smile, think of the only 2x my body has been on the pavement in nearly a million miles of 2 wheeling, and let it go at that. I DO listen to peeps that I respect, who have big miles and many years and minimal crashes. I'll process that info, apply as I think fit.

BTW, I think you should ride more the way I ride, as I know the best and safest ways, based upon my experience, I think...... :rofl:

 
One of my pet peeves is when someone comes on this forum and lectures me on the way I should ride. I just turned 60 years old, have ridden since the age of 16, had the last ticket in 1971 while driving a truck and so far have not been in an accident on the street with a bike. That doesn’t mean that a ticket was not deserved or that an accident at some point won’t find me. It means that my style is pretty conservative and that riding is for pleasure as opposed to trying to impress someone else.
I am very appreciative when someone comes to the forum to present an issue for discussion that is relevant. It always causes me to rethink my methodology, technique or style. What annoys me is someone who has just attended a school, read a book or watched a DVD who then comes to the forum like a reformed alcoholic and wants to pontificate about how knowledgeable they are. It gets even worse when you know that the author espouses one thing and then demonstrates a reckless approach while riding such as blasting headlong into oncoming traffic at triple digits having just crossed over a double yellow line to do it. Control of one’s bike or style has very little meaning to me when you break every law in the vehicle code while doing it!

In a former position it was my job to read many resumes and letters of introduction from highly educated, learned and successful people. It was telling to read those documents and see how many times the applicant used the word “I” in them. When reading pieces on the forum it is also very enlightening to see how many times the author uses the word “I” in the contribution … Is the piece really about the subject or is the writer saying ‘look at me’ as a form of self-aggrandizement. There is a quantum difference between intellectual intelligence and emotional intelligence. Intellectual intelligence may get you the job but emotional intelligence will allow you to keep it. Denigrating others on this forum who espouse a differing point of view, creative spelling or the usage of simple verbiage is immature and shows a definite lack of E.Q.
interesting.

let's see... in the first 3 paragraphs "I" or variations (me, my, etc.) were used... 12 times (exclusive of when used in examples).

 
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Beeroux, why don't you put on another SS1k, "17 Laps of Hell-We were Stupid First" rally to get a TRUE EVALUATION of competent riders?? For those unknowing, the rally was ridden by 15 competent riders totally inside the citylimits of Los Angeles CA in a 24 hour period. :butcher:

 
Dr. Rich,

I agree with the points presented in your post.

I never tell people how to ride, or tell people to ride like me. I am a work in progress...hopefully getting better and not worse.

hmmm...that's 4 "I'"s in one post...hmmmmm.

ooops. :huh:

 
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Beeroux, why don't you put on another SS1k, "17 Laps of Hell-We were Stupid First" rally to get a TRUE EVALUATION of competent riders?? For those unknowing, the rally was ridden by 15 competent riders totally inside the citylimits of Los Angeles CA in a 24 hour period. :butcher:

YES!!! YES!!!! SIGN ME UP!!!! I want to do an LA1k!! :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

I' like to be TRUELY EVALUATED

 
In my experience I think anyone who drops their FJR before it has 3.0 miles on the odometer is an incompetent motorcyclist.

 
In my experience, I think anyone who owns a car and doesn't depend on his motorcycle as his only transportation, is an incompetent motorcyclist.

 
In my experience, I think this thread is a disaster.

:ph34r:

And I give Dr. Rich's rant a 3.4 out of 10 on the rant-O-meter.

:derisive:

 
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